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Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 21, 2011, 08:43:38 AM

A friend of ours who lives in H has told us this morning that several bars in Bar street have recieved massive fines for playing their music too loud .  I hope this is true as most people will feel thats a move in the right direction    Has anyone else any knowledge of this ?  Our friend said some of the fines were about 5.000 TL !!  
Can anyone else out there at the moment confirm this  good news  ?
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Linda on July 21, 2011, 09:33:10 AM
I'm unable to confirm this but do know of another bar, located nowhere near bar street and not renowned for high volume music, that was fined 4000TL two weeks ago!
Unlike Sleuth I am not delighted to hear this news as this is the last thing that already struggling business' need during a very difficult season!
I do wholeheartedly agree with niose controls and restrictions but I do not condone the zero tolerance and no warning mentality that appears to be being implemented by a new team of jandarma in the area. At the end of the day bar street is bar street and if you don;t like loud music then there are plenty more options for customers to choose from in Hisaronu!
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: mercury on July 21, 2011, 09:58:19 AM
I totally agree with you Linda. It has been bad enough trying to earn a living this year. We use the Tropical Bar who have the Jandarma parked outside ALL evening due to it being at the end of the road.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Rindaloo on July 21, 2011, 10:03:29 AM
When we used to holiday there, we knew of areas where the noise was bedlham especially after 10pm.  We would stick to the 'quieter' areas, then run the gauntlet of the din, back to the quiet of the hotel.  Quite a few meals spoilt by the rising nose levels, meaning we did not linger.  We were visiting Hisaronu about a month ago and the din at 11ish was horrendous.  We popped into a jewellers and the door had to be closed because we couldn't hear over the racket.  Something needs to be done.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 21, 2011, 10:11:55 AM
Sorry Linda I disagree with you.  The `law` has it that "after 12 all music must be at a reasonable and tolerable volume and doors etc must be shut"  this `law` has supposedly been in existence for at least a couple of years to my knowledge and it has been abused.So come on.. they have had plenty of warning. Finally the Belideye /  Gendarma  has had enough, and who can blame them.. The noise volume in Bar street, and recently some side streets  has been a major complaint by hundreds of visitors for years. One bar trying to `out noise` the other bar to entice visitors in , thats been the young turkish bar staffs  mentalites for years as everyone knows. Well finally at long last somethings being done to curb this problem.. and good luck to them. As for your comment about a difficult season out there this year and thats the last thing the bars need right now.. well I feel sorry for all the establishments out there that are suffering right now, but we always knew this day would come as there are too many bars, too many restaurants, too many repetitive shops. A sudden drop in visitors  and this problem gets exposed and thats whats happening.  Lets hope that a quiter Hisaronu is on its way and it might help in Hisaronu losing its comparisons to Marmaris
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 21, 2011, 10:26:54 AM
Mercury, believe me, I love all kinds of music as anyone who knows me will testify.  I like it also in the bars, on our terrace, and background music in restaurants. But at night out and about I like to be able to hear myself and others talk, and thats becoming increasingly difficult over the years. You say you frequent the Tropical bar... do you. when in  there want a nice acceptable volume with the music played  in there ?  if the volumes reasonable why worry about the Gendarma outside ?  you surely have nothing to worry about ?
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: mercury on July 21, 2011, 22:10:38 PM
I go for the music and the great staff and because I have known the family for many years. Barrie doesnt really care for Hissy but he knows I like to get my music fix so we go every couple of weeks. The music in there is loud but not unbearable. I am not worried about the Jandarma but I think it puts people off going in there because they think that it is the bar that is a problem so they need to be stationed outside of it. Total rubbish of course. They are there because of the traffic in that area.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Julesp on July 21, 2011, 22:41:19 PM
I never go to Hisoranu because I hate all that noise with the bars all trying to compete
That said I do know that when I frequented Paspatur in Fethiye most nights when I first came to live here 6 years ago, the Jandarma would visit frequently because of noise complaints.
 To be fair to them they would ask the bars to turn down the noise or close their doors first, and they would visit later to check if the requests were complied with, only the bars who ignored the requests were fined.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: scouser2 on July 22, 2011, 00:48:48 AM
We were in Hisaronu tonight and to be honest I was disgusted that there was loud music blasting from 'Time Out' as the call to prayer was broadcast. The music did not stop nor was the volume lowered.Am I right in thinking that a few years ago the music volume was reduced/switched off when there was the call to prayer?
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: BUBSMUM on July 22, 2011, 13:43:29 PM
"Bar Street" whether in Hisaranou or Marmaris means only one thing to me "lively".  They are both resorts that holiday makers enjoy.  If I want a lively night out myself then they are the places I would generate towards. You can find quieter areas to eat and socialise in Ovacik and Kaya and down in the town itself so there is plenty or choice should you want a quieter evening I do understand there are residential homes and hotels backing onto the streets of Hisaranou but if you don't want to hear loud music then either don't have your home there or if staying in a hotel read the brochure description.  Most will describe the accommodation as being nearby to lively bars and music.  It is what it is and everyone knows it as such.  Restrictions are needed but what holidaymaker wants to sleep before 11.00 pm? If they do then they've made the wrong choice of resort and afterall that is exactly what it is "a holiday" venue.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: sue mac on July 23, 2011, 05:43:07 AM
Maybe Hisaronu is struggling BECAUSE of its loud music....I know I would visit a lot more when I am out there all summer if the music was not so loud. My girls love to browse around the shops, and we love a couple of the restaurants down there, but I cannot bear the level of noise there now and will avoid His at all costs in favour of Ovacik and Olu...and of course Kaya. :) We know young couples who visit Calis, and wont go near Hisaronu, due to its reputation to becoming the "benidorm" of Turkey....(not my words!) Maybe its an age thing.. :), but Im sure if it toned itself down a little, it may attract more...?
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 23, 2011, 07:58:24 AM
Well said Sue Mac !!  totally agree  :)
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Rindaloo on July 23, 2011, 08:32:58 AM
There are places I would like to eat in Hiaronu, but don't, purely because of the noise.  I do wonder if the Olive Tree shut down because of the increasing noise levels surrounding it.  It used to be a lovely place to eat, playing a good selection of 'chill' music (ah the good old days, before 'progress' hit).  That may not be the reason it shut, but that's my suspicion.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: hillside on July 23, 2011, 09:18:45 AM
The Olive Tree hasn't closed - just moved about 100 yards down the Kaya Road.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Rindaloo on July 23, 2011, 10:05:50 AM
Yes, but that's my point.  It isn't where it used to be.

BTW, the hotel he had up the road, more towards Ovacik, -is he still involved with it??  We were in the area on Wednesday and thought the outside looked a little unkempt.  Made me wonder if he had sold it.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 23, 2011, 12:17:04 PM
We ventured away from the `noise` of H  and tried a restaurant up in Ovacik for the first time during early July this year and was VERY pleasantly surprised. Its called  `The three cheers`  attentitive friendy staff, excellent food, great prices, and ambient turkish music in the background that you could hear pleasantly and hold a conversation, with no `boom boom` either side of the restaurant or opposite as is the case in Hisaronu.
The only negative was a slight noise from the main road, but all in all definately worth further visits when we return in late August[^]
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Sleuth on July 23, 2011, 12:19:30 PM
The Olive tree is still an excellent restaurant  and is now in a better location.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Rindaloo on July 23, 2011, 12:26:58 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Sleuth

The Olive tree is still an excellent restaurant  and is now in a better location.



Yes, at his hotel away from the noise.  But if they don't crack down on all the noise, how long will it be before that hotel is surrounded by booming music and flashing lights?  The Green Forest Hotel must be quaking in its boots (speaking metaphorically) because gradually hell is approaching it.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: hugh shaw on July 23, 2011, 18:29:19 PM
In reply to comments on page i of this topic ie the last thing these bars need is a fine in an already bad season, and they should build their houses away from the ear damaging noise.I think its great they have been fined they are one of the main reasons for lack of trade in that part of Hisaronu and a lot of the residents with houses affected by this dreadful din have been there before there was electricity.If you agree with me complain about the noise or you will lose the Hisaronu you love.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Ovacikpeedoff on July 23, 2011, 21:07:13 PM
We never went down to Hisaronu in the peak summer period because of the noise. Any time we went there to eat we would go at about 6.30pm making sure we were out of it by 8.30pm.A place we used to go to was called the Mountain valley it was just above Hisaronu and was nice and peaceful with excellent food at a very reasonable price, brilliant staff and a great view of the mountains. We used to love watching the sun setbehind the mountain.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: mercury on July 24, 2011, 09:38:40 AM
We ate in Ovacik at Angels last night. It was an awful meal and we would never go again but enough of that. We all went on to The Tropical night for the music and we had a great time. Ages from 18 to 57 and really enjoyed it. The staff make sure everyone has a good time and it was packed out.I think because it is at the edge of Hisaronu that we arent affected by the other bars trying to compete with each other so the music doesnt have to blast out.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Linda on July 24, 2011, 09:47:13 AM
Mountain Valley is very good but the portions are too big for me lol .... nice criticisim to make though lol
Angels ... whatever made you go there Ann .. I could have told you taht it would have been a bad meal!
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: mercury on July 24, 2011, 21:19:36 PM
My friends wanted to try somewhere different. Reviews on Trip advisor were good so we wnt there. Never again. Will stick to Four Seasons in Ovacik in future. Never had a bad meal or a bad night in there.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: kittyboo on July 31, 2011, 16:43:00 PM
Hello Everone,

Sorry to interject on the topic but I just require some info in regards to Nadia's Irish Bar. Only found out today about the situation involving the dolphins from last year. Due to visit Hisaronu in September, four years since my last visit. Nadia's was my prefered hang out but obviously I will not be giving her my custom...very shocked that she backed that disgraful venture. What has happend to Nadia's? Has it closed? Has Nadia moved to another location? and finally any update on the dolphins? Any info much appreciated and just want to add what a brilliant set of people that stopped that barbaric venture. A massive thank from all animal lovers everywhere.
Tks and regards Mike
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Libra on July 31, 2011, 18:36:39 PM
I wished , bar and restaurant owners in H would read these comments. Very loud music is not music for me , just noise. Some might like loud music , but medically it is unhealthy and may damage ones hearing senses. Maybe it is similar to smoking ; some like it , but it definitely is harmful for the health - ones own health and the health of people nearby.
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: tinkerman on July 31, 2011, 19:03:33 PM
quote:
Originally posted by kittyboo

Hello Everone,

Sorry to interject on the topic but I just require some info in regards to Nadia's Irish Bar. Only found out today about the situation involving the dolphins from last year. Due to visit Hisaronu in September, four years since my last visit. Nadia's was my prefered hang out but obviously I will not be giving her my custom...very shocked that she backed that disgraful venture. What has happend to Nadia's? Has it closed? Has Nadia moved to another location? and finally any update on the dolphins? Any info much appreciated and just want to add what a brilliant set of people that stopped that barbaric venture. A massive thank from all animal lovers everywhere.
Tks and regards Mike



Im pretty sure nadias is closed now :) Tom and Misha are doing fine and all being well should be released in September 8)
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: heather07 on July 31, 2011, 21:26:32 PM
You are right Tinks,   Nadia's is closed : :):D ;)
Title: Bars in H fined for playing music too loud !!!
Post by: Julesp on July 31, 2011, 21:37:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by heather07

You are right Tinks,   Nadia's is closed : :):D ;)



Glad to hear that  :):D :)