Best form of heating

[Old Daffodil]

We have friends researching what is the best form of heating for them to have in their house they are going to build. What do you think is the best for Uzumlu area?

[Firo]

Log burner with back boiler that heats the water and radiators..

[Scunner]

Agreed  

[C-E]

There are a number of systems available.  We are running 8 radiators in a 4 bed villa on 3 floors with an automatic coal fired boiler (hopper fed.)  The hopper holds sufficient coal to run for 3 to 4 days.  The ash needs emptying every day.  The running cost is approx 1400TL over the winter. This is less than 1 bag of Super Enerji (7000Kj)per day at a 11.5TL per bag. The boiler is on 24 hours a day.  The temperature in the whole of the villa is 20 deg C plus.  There are different sizes of this type of boiler to suit different applications.  We have the second size boiler in the range.  The smallest boiler would have been sufficient for our needs.  The reason for choosing a bigger boiler is that it runs at the lowest output and is cheaper to run than running the smaller boiler at its highest output.  If your friends wish to see our system they are more than welcome.

Sometimes the cheapest option is not the most convenient.

There are underfloor heating sytems that heat water which is fed through pipes under the floor.  Gas or coal can be used to heat the water.  We do not know the running costs of these systems. A good place to go for advice and costs is Alarko in Tasyaka.  

We have friends in Nif-Apercik who have the underfloor heating using gas.  If needed we can try to find out their running costs.

[hamilton]

Heat control is very important. Rad valves or zone valves should be installed, depending on system selected, thermostatically controlled are the best way to achieve this. The heat source also requires tight temperature control for efficiency.
I would also advise on whatever system is chosen that it should be fitted with an UPS, which will maintain the pumps fans etc during power cuts.
We have a coal fired boiler (Demi Docum) located outside, which will burn a mix of logs and coal, not hopper fed, which supplies heat to all of the house. Being outside this keeps dust and smell to a minimum. Requires emptying once a day, feeding three times a day on cold days. Cleaning once a week, about 1/2 hours work.
We have a very warm house every room is set to the desired temperature.

[Diverbaz 1]

For a new build, underfloor heating will be the most economic, the water passing through the heating system only has to be heated to somewhere between 20 and 25 degrees, depending how warm you want to be, instead of trying to heat radiators upwards of 40 degrees. The heat from the underfloor heating means nice warm floors and the heat rises so you have an even heat throughout the room and no raidiators on show in the summer (or winter for that matter).

[tribalelder]

God help you if you spring a leak in your underfloor heating pipes!:(

[hamilton]

quote:Originally posted by Diverbaz 1


For a new build, underfloor heating will be the most economic, the water passing through the heating system only has to be heated to somewhere between 20 and 25 degrees, depending how warm you want to be, instead of trying to heat radiators upwards of 40 degrees. The heat from the underfloor heating means nice warm floors and the heat rises so you have an even heat throughout the room and no raidiators on show in the summer (or winter for that matter).

Agree the best heating is under floor either wet system or electric.
Both rely on good practice during installation. that may be a problem out here, providing the work is carried out by a competent contractor you should be OK? Insulation to the property should be considered a priority on a new build, for energy saving both summer and winter.
Our property is thermal block construction not tula which does help. We have also 6"rock wool insulation installed to all ceilings.
The extra cost will be worth it as the savings both summer and winter will soon be paid back on the energy saved.
Getting a Turkish builder to understand may be the difficulty as they will be more concerned regarding profit on the build, rather than running costs.

[hamilton]

quote:Originally posted by C-E

There are a number of systems available.  We are running 8 radiators in a 4 bed villa on 3 floors with an automatic coal fired boiler (hopper fed.)  The hopper holds sufficient coal to run for 3 to 4 days.  The ash needs emptying every day.  The running cost is approx 1400TL over the winter. This is less than 1 bag of Super Enerji (7000Kj)per day at a 11.5TL per bag. The boiler is on 24 hours a day.  The temperature in the whole of the villa is 20 deg C plus.  There are different sizes of this type of boiler to suit different applications.  We have the second size boiler in the range.  The smallest boiler would have been sufficient for our needs.  The reason for choosing a bigger boiler is that it runs at the lowest output and is cheaper to run than running the smaller boiler at its highest output.  If your friends wish to see our system they are more than welcome.

Sometimes the cheapest option is not the most convenient.

There are underfloor heating sytems that heat water which is fed through pipes under the floor.  Gas or coal can be used to heat the water.  We do not know the running costs of these systems. A good place to go for advice and costs is Alarko in Tasyaka.  

We have friends in Nif-Apercik who have the underfloor heating using gas.  If needed we can try to find out their running costs.

I pay no more than 9ytl per bag for super carbon, I think you are paying well over the odds. 8ytl if you buy in the summer?/

[Old Daffodil]

Thank you for all the information.