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Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2014, 18:28:05 PM

Title: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2014, 18:28:05 PM
I have read a post on facebook, saying that even if you own property you can only get a 3 year residency.No longer doing 5 years. Please can any one confirm if this would apply for Ovacik/Fethiye please.  :  :)  :-\
Title: Re: maximum residency.
Post by: lissa on January 09, 2014, 18:50:49 PM
Is it correct that after april ,residency will have to be renewed yearly? Longer periods not possible.
Title: Re: maximum residency.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2014, 18:52:15 PM
Sorry Lissa, I meant this month and before April.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2014, 19:00:50 PM
Yes - first visa can only be for 3 years now
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2014, 19:08:31 PM
When did that come in then? Thought all these changes weren,t until April.  :o
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Ian on January 09, 2014, 20:11:04 PM
My confidence on the answer is probably from the same source as you have seen - on Facebook - Mark (karaokemark on this forum) - if he said that's what happened to him this week - it will be right!

The only thing I don't remember is if the person he went for was "renting" as it has been 3 years for people renting for quite a while - will wait for him to confirm     :)

PS just re-read and he has said "even for people owning etc ....." - so if I were in your position I would believe Mark if I were making any plans.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 09, 2014, 20:28:39 PM
Thanks, keep having to rethink, wonder if wordbird knowsmits 3 for renting too.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: WordBird on January 10, 2014, 07:20:22 AM
I didn't Bernie, so thanks - though I'm not sure we're going to get ours in before April so may come under the new rules anyway.  :(
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 10, 2014, 08:24:10 AM
I thought you were out feb? That changed now?
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Liz 101 on January 10, 2014, 10:17:11 AM
New rules are already in place from 1st Jan, as I understand it
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: desmartinson on January 10, 2014, 10:57:48 AM
A couple on our complex took out a 5 year residency  last January and are wondering if they are ok till jan 2018, I advised them to check with passport police, as things change here like the weather.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 10, 2014, 12:47:39 PM
New rules for residency start April as far as I am aware. I hope not January, as we are only going now, to ensure residency for 5 years and to get back to uk before our grandchild is born in March. Otherwise we would have not given up our jobs, and waited in the Uk until after.

Karoke Mark got residency this week for 3 years for someone.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: WordBird on January 10, 2014, 13:15:25 PM
I'm out in February to sort a place to live, Bernie, and could do my own residency then. But I don't think we can get Mr WB or our daughter out there before April - hubby maybe, but she's got exams from April onwards - taking her out of school for a couple of weeks just before wouldn't be the best idea....  :(
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: LeeGlo on January 10, 2014, 15:37:37 PM
I don't want to discourage anyone, but I'm sure I read somewhere that no matter what period your RP is for if you are out of Turkey for more than 6 months they "may" cancel it.

Maybe someone with more knowledge could clarify this for you. If you are going to be living here semi-permanently then obviously it doesn't apply.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Liz 101 on January 10, 2014, 15:46:53 PM
My friend, a home owner, renewed her residency 2 weeks ago, on a passport with over 9 years to run & was allowed only 3 years, hence my thoughts that the new laws came into effect Jan 1st
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Marggie on January 10, 2014, 17:27:29 PM
When the new laws do come in in April, the maximum residency period will be one year.  That is how it stands at the moment, but things could well change before then. 

As I understand it, until then if it is your first application or if you rent your property you will b e granted a 3 year residency permit.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: WordBird on January 10, 2014, 18:12:40 PM
It's worrying/irritating/frustrating - but totally unsurprising  ;D - that there's still so much unknown about the new process when there's only two and a half months to go.

If they could realise they're not ready and delay it all by a few months so my lot can get their three years sorted before it all changes, that'd be grand!
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: karaokemark on January 10, 2014, 18:22:35 PM
I went with our friends on Monday and Ilkner a sworn translator. They have owned a property for nine years and were only allowed to do residency for a maximum 3 years first time, when we enquired the change came a few weeks ago. The law changes again in April at the moment it will allow only one year at a time (As Ilkner said anything can happen).
My residency which I took for 5 years runs out on the 5th March we asked when we could renew it, the very polite and helpful man on the desk told us 20th Feb. and we can do another 5 years as a renewal, but again after April they do not know. our friends collected theirs this morning ready after 4 days.
Mark
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Hamlet on January 10, 2014, 22:23:18 PM
I renewed my residency on 18th December for 5 years.  8)
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 10, 2014, 22:34:21 PM
Are we all going to the same place to renew or does this alter from place to place?
Hamlet,is this your first residency?
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Scunner on January 10, 2014, 22:37:00 PM
No, he renewed it  ;)
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 10, 2014, 23:06:44 PM
Thanks Scunner,seems.we.Will.have to go.with 3,but will try for 5.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: thekeyclan on January 11, 2014, 07:35:25 AM
We went and completed the forms with Volkan at 2gether in Fethiye yesterday. He called later to confirm that everything had been handed in to the passport police and all the paperwork was OK. We were renewing our residency, we own a property and we have renewed for 5 years.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Hamlet on January 11, 2014, 09:24:06 AM
Slikmrs, this was a renewal of my first residency which when I applied in 2010 was told it could only be for 3 years but when Mrs Hamlet applied for her first residency in 2011 she was able to get 5 years. Since then we know of people who have been told both versions. We live in Uzumlu and therefore ours are all dealt with in Fethiye.
I would definitely use a translator, we have employed both Ilknur Doody & Yakup Yilmaz for residency applications and feel that it is well worth paying 100tl for someone to complete all the paperwork correctly, to get the documents signed as required and submit them to the passport police, along with all the running around connected with the process is well worth it.
I'm not sure exactly how long it took for the application after the paperwork was submitted as I left collection until I was in that area again & that was 10 days later.
Hope this helps.  8)
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 11, 2014, 19:15:17 PM
Thanks Hamlet. Fingers crossed for the 5 or at least 3.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: daveG on January 12, 2014, 09:28:00 AM
LeeGlo I too was under the impression that the Apr new rule would allow residency to continue only if you were in the country for 6 months or more. I hope I'm wrong as this would have a major effect on
many of us who spend 3/4/5 months here. As stated we are rapidly approaching the said date with
no apparent up-dates. :-\
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Rimms on January 12, 2014, 09:37:57 AM
Dave, I think you are wrong, I understand you can have residency and only be here a few weeks a year if you wish. The six month rule comes into play once you have been resident for eight years when you can apply for permanent residency as long as you have not been out of the country for more than six months in any one year.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: daveG on January 12, 2014, 09:55:20 AM
Sincerely hope your right Rimms as trying to translate the "New rule"(interruptions section) is like going through a minefield!!Other ex-pats I have spoken to also under the same impression as I was.
So Fingers and Toes crossed that all will be revealed earlier rather than later!!
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: saoirse on January 12, 2014, 10:54:38 AM
Have to say Dave I was thinking exactly same as you.

Furthermore, if existing Rps are recognised beyond April I would imagine they would be subject to same new rules. Guesswork of course until we are all told  definitively
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Rimms on January 12, 2014, 11:48:42 AM
And what you are told will be less likely to be how the new law is written and more likely to be how each member of staff in the Fethiye office interprets the new rules. Sad, but true !
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: LeeGlo on January 12, 2014, 14:36:23 PM
I hope that I am wrong and that they don't start cancelling RP's, friends of ours took out a 5 year one last year to circumvent the new visa rules, as did many others. But that is how I understood the "new" new rules would work. i.e. you are no longer "resident" if you spend more than 6 months out of the country
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: saoirse on January 12, 2014, 15:21:49 PM
Leeglo you could well be right- we are all just guessing.

I just felt that if they were to stand over the existing RPs  they would also  be subject  to the new rules, but who knows!!!
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: jackstee on January 13, 2014, 12:55:27 PM
However, to throw a rathey large spanner in the works (espesially as I left on Sunday)

If the Turkish Government goes ahead and signs the new EU visa papers then Turks will not need Visa's for any of the EU countries.

This should mean that nor will we.
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 13, 2014, 14:22:53 PM
Turkey are joining the EU...Since when????
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: Ian on January 13, 2014, 20:02:07 PM
I think he means just one more step in the process to conform with other EU arrangements - this is not uncommon when countries are going through various stages prior to full membership - which will likely never happen - but some uniformity may still be achieved!
Title: Re: maximum residency term before April.
Post by: BernieTeyze on January 13, 2014, 21:44:28 PM
Ok thanks for that Ian.