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A Forgiving God
« on: August 27, 2015, 22:09:29 PM »
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There is no sin too great for God to forgive: Titus 2:14

I was thinking a lot about religion and this God idea this week, mainly provoked by a funeral that was Humanist and religion free.

And I ended up with the following thought at the end of it.

If God is a forgiving God, how come when it gets to the bit where he/someone decides who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, and they decide Hell, why isn't he all like "I just can't do it, I can't send him/her to Hell, for I am the forgiving God.

"Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand".

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"They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might,"

Both can't be right can they...

Bit heavy I realise   :)



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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2015, 22:14:07 PM »
 Final proof God is a woman......Can't make her mind up.  Off to bed now  :-X :o ;D  ;)

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2015, 22:22:53 PM »
Spare bedroom possibly?

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2015, 22:29:01 PM »
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There is no sin too great for God to forgive: Titus 2:14

I was thinking a lot about religion and etc etc

it always concerns me when you do that - however, in this case all I'll say is send me over either a pint of what you're drinking or a coupla joints of what you're smokin'   :)

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2015, 22:33:02 PM »
I often wrestle with the question "why should I forgive God for allowing terrible things to happen (one thing in particularly obviously).

The stock answer to "why does a forgiving God allow terrible things to happen" appears to be "it's man's inhumanity to man".

Does not compute, I'm afraid. :(

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2015, 22:38:36 PM »
Another reason why I don't believe in God, Heaven, Hell, the Afterlife etc.

I remember sitting with my Grandma when I was about 12 and the news of the Aberfan Disaster was breaking. She was a very religious woman and used to attend chapel 3 times on a Sunday. When she heard the news she said "If there is a God and he loves little children he would never have allowed this to happen". She never stepped inside a chapel or church again in 36 years.

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2015, 22:40:47 PM »
Ok, so what is (a) god?

Sensible answers only please, on the back of a communion wafer...

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2015, 22:41:06 PM »
As the great philosopher Stephen Fry asked, what about bone cancer in children - how is that man's inhumanity to man?

If I decide my children need punishing for something, I can take their phones off them for 24 hours or pour a chip pan of boiling oil over them. I always choose the phone. So without doing a huge poll, I am more forgiving than God and I've only polled one person. It isn't looking good for him being the most forgiving.

The question remains - how can the all forgiving, compassionate God allow people to go to an eternity of suffering? Doesn't sound like the actions of an ultra forgiving being to me.

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2015, 22:42:28 PM »
Ok, so what is (a) god?

Sensible answers only please, on the back of a communion wafer...

JF

Someone invented to keep the poor weak and living in fear?

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Re: A Forgiving God
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2015, 22:43:37 PM »
Another reason why I don't believe in God, Heaven, Hell, the Afterlife etc.

I remember sitting with my Grandma when I was about 12 and the news of the Aberfan Disaster was breaking. She was a very religious woman and used to attend chapel 3 times on a Sunday. When she heard the news she said "If there is a God and he loves little children he would never have allowed this to happen". She never stepped inside a chapel or church again in 36 years.

A classic example as would Dunblane be.




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