Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Ovacik Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jenny1 on August 06, 2008, 21:54:34 PM
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Hi
Can anybody advise me of any websites that give me info/photos on Ovacik?
Also cheap & cheerful accommodation as I am thinking of spending approx 2 months next year visiting a lot of the places I haven't seen in Turkey?
Thanks
Jen x
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You won't need a hotel. You can see Ovacik in 2 minutes. One road, a billion villas. That's it.
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Hi Jenny1,obviously you are a lady of discernment as you wish to visit Ovacik.You will find that Ovacik has a wealth of small friendly bars and hotels.A short dolmus ride puts you into Olu Deniz which boasts one of the finest beaches in Turkey.Ovacik is regarded as being one of the upmarket areas in the region,this can be seen in the property prices as compared say to Calis,where you can buy property for peanuts. This is unfortunately due to the fact that Calis is built upon reclaimed marsh land,is known locally as Mosquito City,and unfortunately the beach is like a rubbish tip.However,I digress,in answer to your question I suggest you do a Google search on Ovacik,this will give you a wealth of web sites to visit,and also will give you a mass of intelligent information about the surrounding area etc.Hope you come and enjoy. 8)
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What a load of piffle
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Excuse me,me old mucker,I thought my reply to the young lady's posting was on the whole,well balanced and informative.If you could let me,and any other interested member know which of your buttons I pressed to dismiss my reply as piffle,I will.unlike your good self,endeavour to make an intelligent reply.      Â
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The lady in question asked for information on Ovacik
not a dressing down of Calis, see if you can impress her
by sticking to the topic in question, and selling Ovacik.
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I have'nt got to sell Ovacik,she asked for info on Ovacik,and that is what she got.If another member can make disparaging remarks about the area,surely I can make similar remarks about another area.
I'me personally at a loss as to what in my posting,which you regard as piffle,has caused your reaction.
I respect your opinions,as hopefully you do mine.Perhaps you can highlight what has caused offence,I'me sure we can clear this up before it gets gladitorial and degenerates into a squabble. 8)
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Mosquito City? I have never heard anyone call it that. Funny how Ovacik people always discuss Calis as some sort of mosquito breeding ground, whereas the truth is we rarely see a mozzie anymore. By comparison, here are some honest Ovacik folk talking about the mosquito problem in Ovacik: http://calis-beach.co.uk/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18510
So, Ovacik has a mozzie problem, but you call Calis "Mosquito City"?
Everyone has the right to decide what they prefer, if a sprawl of houses half way up a mountain with no beach at all is your taste, good for you. Jenny didn't ask you to slate Calis, as Tinkerman correctly pointed out.
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According to Assured Estates:
Situated on a high plateau, 4km from the coast and surrounded by stunning mountains, Ovacik is the laid back neighbour of livley Hisaronu. The nearest beaches are the famous lagoon of Ölüdeniz or the pebble and sand beach of Belçekiz. A dolmus (bus) leaves every five or ten minutes.
There are plenty of restaurants and bars, generally low key and relaxed, with the option of livier nights just down the road in Hisaronu
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I don't usually get involved in this sort of thing, but I have to say, I do think geordieboy has a point. I have noticed on quite a few occasions that some of the Calis based members like to make unkind comments about Hisaronu and Ovacik, but will all jump to attention if anything bad is said about Calis.
I'm not going to give my views on either area, but would just like to say, each to their own, we can't all like the same things, and life would be boring if we did. If someone asks for information, lets just give it to them plain and simple without descending into childish comments.
By the way, I have been bitten by mozzies in Hisaronu, Ovacik, Olu Deniz, Kaya Koy, Calis, Fethiye, Uzumlu, Kemer, Antalya, Kalkan, Marmaris, Izmir and Kusadasi, so I think I can quite honestly say that they are simply everywhere.:D
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Errm, thanks for the interesting replies? Didn't think my question would cause such a stir! Lol! :)
Jen x
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here here minimoo
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Jenny1 - 156 posts and you haven't notice that anything can cause a stir on here?
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If there are less mosquitos in Ovacik . The reason is , the scorpions there , eat them :D
Cenk
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Originally posted by kaptainkrunchie
According to Assured Estates:
Situated on a high plateau, 4km from the coast and surrounded by stunning mountains, Ovacik is the laid back neighbour of livley Hisaronu. The nearest beaches are the famous lagoon of Ölüdeniz or the pebble and sand beach of Belçekiz. A dolmus (bus) leaves every five or ten minutes.
There are plenty of restaurants and bars, generally low key and relaxed, with the option of livier nights just down the road in Hisaronu
Yep, that is also true. What I am saying is that Ovacik wouldn't be on my list of places further afield in Turkey to explore, if I usually visited Calis. Much as Calis probably wouldn't if I always holidayed in Ovacik.
Ovacik may be where you want to live or holiday, but it's hardly Pammukale ;)
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I suppose its all a matter of personal opinion. I like Uzumlu but to others it would probably be considered a backwater with sod all to do! On the other hand I find Hisaronu for example tacky, but as I say all a matter of opinion. I also like Amanda Lamb but thats really nothing to do with this thread
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is that the same Amanda Lamb that slagged off Turkey at the London overseas property exhibition?
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Jesus dont tell me that! Seriously? What did she say?
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best ask Scunner or Yetkin, she was 'promoting' Spain at the time
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I heard that she did and protested by Turkish exhibitors there
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grrrrrrrr
She is SOOOOOO dumped. I NEVER liked her!
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One thing that nobody mentioned in the heat factor! On the plus side Ovacik is cooler in the summer months with a gentle mountain breeze compared to the stiffling heat at sea level. On the downside I find that out of season the clouds hug the mountains and its much brighter and warmer at sea level. I have also noticed on occassion that Olu Deniz, Hisaronu and Ovacik can be under cloud but if you travel to Calis its nice and sunny.
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Jenny1 asked a good and proper question, she asked it politly and in a good manner...geordieboy gave a very good answer he even apologised for digressing,both scunner and tinkerman were down right rude, there is no need for this, the lady asked and got a polite reply...is it wrong to ask a civil question and expect to get a reply...i think not...minimoo should be congratulated on giving her response to the thread, she has spoken for many members in the forum, well done minimoo, maybe SHE should be a moderator with her calm and collective thoughts!!!!!.....I too will probably get my backside kicked for my views...so be it!! 8)
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Hi Brian,
I see you too live in Ovacik. I said that there wasn't much to see (from a touring point of view) in Ovacik, and I stand by that. I don't think I was rude, and I don't think Tinkerman was either. If someone wants to get out of their normal location and see a bit more of Turkey, leaving Calis to explore Ovacik isn't going to be that interesting IMHO - unless you can list the places we should all be putting on our list.
If you think I was rude I'll have to accept that. Strange how you thought that, but didn't think Geordie Boy's anti-Calis tirade was in any way rude? Nobody was asking about Calis anyway...
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So thats where you've all been, :)debating Ovacik, :P
you should be here debating when the rain will vgo off you lucky sods. ;)
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Tinkerman was down right rude? where was that?
I just queried as to why Geordiebloke was knocking calis and not giving the information requested on Ovacik?
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Jenny, there are a number of websites giving you info/photos on the area. I presume you want to stay in Ovacik as a base so you can visit other places, especially now Scunner informs us that not only have they have closed all but one road but also built a few hundred million more villas in the last 2 months :o.
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Ah, taking my post 100% literally, very good.
Come on then, please tell me (and everyone else) what we should be taking in, during our visit to Ovacik! I don't want to miss any Turkish treasures that may be there.
Can any Ovacik person answer that one? It's a genuine question :) How should we spend our sightseeing day there?
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Never mind all that. Whats this about my heroine Miss Lamb ripping the back out of Turkey at some show? Tell me its not true Scunner
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Well. She reportedly said that quality of build in Turkey was not good, but it was never actually proven. She also answered another question about buying in Turkey where she said something about it being the same "for any Eastern bloc country" which didn't go down very well with the Turkish exhibitors. There is also always a general feeling among Turkish exhibitors that she only ever talks about Spain and Italy, which is 100% true.
There is no truth in the rumour that she suggested that people who want to sample the delights of Turkey should ensure they visit Istanbul, Ephesus, and Ovacik.
I think you will join me in forgiving her though :)
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Yeah our engagements back on. (me and her not me and you......although...)
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Hi Jen, I have a place in Ovacik. There are some nice hotels to choose from, and because it is indeed situated on a high plateau, 4km from the coast and surrounded by stunning mountains, there are some wonderful sights to see whilst touring the area.
Keith, you may find this educational... ;)
One of the 'Worlds 10 best Walks' (Sunday Times) starts in Ovacik at the Montana Pine Holiday Village (very nice hotel) This is the ancient 'Lycian Way' that is described as Turkeys first long distance walk. The start of the walk through the beautiful pine forests in Ovacik takes you up onto a plateau, and from there you can see the Lagoon at Olu Deniz. The first part of the walk takes you Faralya, and eventually you would end up in Antalya (if you have a few weeks to spare) however you can simply turn back after an hour, or however long you want. There is also an alternative walk from here to Kaya Koyu.
Another fantastic walk whilst touring Ovacik is the Ovacik to Akbel, and onto Baba Dag summit. The 1976m (6480ft) mountain dominates the area around, and is by far the highest peak in this part of coastal Turkey. I would recommend staying at the Green Anatolia Hotel as this is just off the Babadag Road which is the road that travels up through Ovacik to the top of Baba Dag - Once you get past the villas.. The scenery on this route up, and from the top of Baba Dag is spectacular, as anyone who has dared to Paraglide will verify. You may hear the loud calls of the rock nuthatches, and the chattering of red squirrels, and you may also see wild tortoises and terrapins on this route.
There are also walks from Ovacik to Kaya, Ovacik to Olu Deniz and Ovacik to Fethiye. These walks, and many more are described in detail, and the book can be ordered from http://www.marengowalks.com/Oludenizbk.html
If you want to stay in a location and see a bit more of Turkey, Ovacik is a great place to start - IMHO. You may even want to get the dolmus into Fethiye, walk to the harbor, and get the dolmus taxi to Calis. This is a great day / evening out. You will find some nice restraunts and helpful people there..Just don't tell them where you're staying :D
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Yes.all very interesting,I believe that Jenny1's basic query was she wanted info on websites covering cheap hotels in the area,she's obviously going to use Ovacik as a base for 2mths while she sees more of Turkey,I believe that was the bones of her posting.Suddenly the thread goes off at a tangent,writing about mosquitos etc,then we go to bloody Amanda Lamb and what she thinks of Turkey or whatever.I do'nt care what she thinks about anything,she's overated,supercillious,hosting a cheap programm,if she spent less time flashing her boobs about and more time telling us information she'd be more credible.Well Jenny,bonny lass,I hope you managed to find the relevant info you were after,and if you do come I wish you a happy stay.And if you do come please pay Calis a visit,I've got no axe to grind about the place,the beer and the food is cheaper down there. 8)
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Spot on Babayard,my last posting was'nt in reply to your excellent reply,but basically how a thread tends to meander off course.
10 out of 10 for getting it back .
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WOW, now girls and boys, calm down and be friends, lol! Thanks for the info so far.
This is what I want to do:
I have been to Calis/Fethiye 4 times, done Altinkum, (not good!) Icmeler, Kalkan, (but not Kas),Bodrum, Pammukale, Ephesus, etc.
Now I want to see the more intersting parts I have missed, I know there are lots of them, real Turkish villages etc, which is why I am taking 2-3 months off next year to do this.
I want to start at Antalya end, and 'attempt' to work my way across, ending up in Istanbul, I don't know if I will have enough time, as I am sure I will be tempted to stay in the nicer places a little bit longer! I want to fit as may places in as poss.
I don't want a rigid plan, if I'm not keen on a place, I can move to the next, the hard part is finding out how far apart all these places are, and if I can catch a dolmus, or a boat or a 'real' bus etc.
I was asking about clean cheap & cheerful accommodation, just to give me ideas before I get started, i am a bit aprehensive as I am 46 and will be travelling on my own, but also excited as I have holidayed on my own in Turkey, but nothing like this, it's something i've always wanted to do,I can't wait!
Any tips/hints/advice, places to stay, where to book flights back to England etc are more than welcome,
Jen x
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Good Luck and best wishes Jenny, with all your planning Im sure you will be fine.
Tinx ;)
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Thanks Tinx, spend all my time on laptop these days!
Jen x
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Thank you Babayard, I consider myself educated.
Is there anything to do in Ovacik that doesn't involve walking? ;)
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If walking isn't your thing.
You could try the Micro lighting in Ovacik, as an alternative to Paragliding.
You might like to take in a game of football at the new stadium in Ovacik
You may like to visit the small museum in Ovacik
You can also "have xmas dinner on the terrace / balcony" with the other EPK's when us 'tourists' have gone home!!
Sorry- that last suggestion was very childish ;)
One a serious note Keith, the reason you have rattled my particular cage is this:
Out of the many forums covering the SW of Turkey - CBF is by far the best, and by some distance. I have resolved many a problem, and had many a good day / evening out due to the suggestions that your forum has generated. It is a credit to the hard work you have put in over the past 5 years.
Assured Estates is also an excellent example of how you have creatively tried to solve the sometimes difficult and stressful problems property investors face in this region.
Most of the time, you are actively promoting Calis, and up until recently the surrounding area's.
So the way in which you have chosen to be negative, and indeed hypocritical of Ovacik and Hisaronu recently is disappointing. You used to take a professional and neutral stance, and I respected that.
I can't see how it is in any way conducive to the success of the region for tourism, or indeed property sales? And it really doesn't help the balance of the forum.
However this is of course your domain, and I guess you can run it how you wish..
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My opinion of Ovacik doesn't help the balance of the Calis Beach discussion forum?
I don't recall ever being neutral! I can't do neutral, never have :)
As I said earlier, each to their own and I know some people love Ovacik (strangely all Brits, I don't know any Turks who moved there or Germans, Dutch, Russians etc) and if it makes you happy it makes me happy ;) If customers ask me my opinion on Ovacik I tell them, 100% honest, I'm like that - it's a bit quiet for my liking, especially in winter :D
My appraisal of Ovacik was my own honest appraisal, Geordielads opinion of Calis was just plain nasty. He seemed surprised to get the replies he did, on the Calis Beach forum.
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Keith, you have chosen to have a section for Ovacik on CBF, and you sell property in Ovacik.. Come on.
In terms of you being neutral. Here is a valid example (last page)
{A Link to an old CBF topic was here - no longer available}11593&whichpage=4&SearchTerms=Hisaronu
And for your information, my closest neighbors in Turkey (who now live there 12 months of the year) are Germans, and we have many Turks living near to us. Of course the local Turks aren't buying the villas and apartments that have been built in the last 5-6 years. Is this different is Calis?
As I speak, our villa is also being rented out to a Turkish family on holiday - They have chosen to rent in Ovacik, as many Turks now do.
Oh, and I forgot to mention in my last post that although there is a superb water park in Calis, if you are staying in Ovacik, there are a couple of hotels that have very good water slides for children. And you can visit these hotels, and use their facilities for either a small fee, or as part of your spend on lunch and drinks.
It aint all bad Keith!
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At the end of the day, Calis, Ovacik, Hisaronu, Olu Deniz...wherever, they are all part of the Fethiye area, and the area as a whole needs to be supported by all of us. We need to keep attracting tourists to this area. It's is then up to them to decide which part of the Fethiye area they like the most, and it's never going to be the same place for everyone.
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Indeed :D
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Minimoo, you are the most sensible 26 poster i have seen in recent months, Thank You
Tinx
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Well said BabaYard......nice to see someone putting things in order....might make a few other members who should know better, think before they post!!
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Of course that wouldn't include you, would it Brian...
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it sure does include me......i thought long and hard before posting,lol
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:D ;)
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Many thanks folks...can't promise I'm always this sensible though :D I just want to see the area as a whole prosper.
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Jenny,
My in laws have a villa in Ovacik and we have an apartment in Karagozler Fethiye....and we decide where we will stay depending on the time of year. In July and August Fethiye is unbearably hot and humid where as there is always the mountain breeze in Ovacik which makes it just about manageable. Early or later in the season it can be a bit cool in Ovacik so we opt to stay in Fethiye.
Out of season Ovacik is deserted and Hisaronu like a ghost town. Fethiye is a working town so open all year round.
We count ourselves really lucky- Ovacik does have a charm of its own where my inlaws are feels quite rural but a ten minute walk takes you into Hisaronu with all the bars, restaurants and clubs etc. Their neighbours are a mix of Turkish and English mainly.
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Well,what started off as a fairly straight forward request,ie, info on Ovacik certainly turned into something else. The ball's been well and truly kicked round the park,and on quite a few occasions kicked out the park.
So,let's sit back and do an apraisal.
I had the temerity to make,what some people think was unwarranted remarks about Calis,and of course several members,whom I assume live down there immediately took umbrage and leapt to defend it,perfectly understandable,they not going to criticise it are they.
However I'll qualify my remarks.Property in Calis does tend to be downpriced as compared to similar property in Ovacik,you've only to trawl the property websites to find this is true,Calis is built on what was marshland,so what,nothing to get het up about,merely a true statement.my remark about Calis beach,I'll confess was a little extreme,but the context was correct,its been mentioned in the local press about the condition of the beach,there's even been requests for volunteers to help clean it up.All of these statements are true,they not meant to be inflammatory,but I get the feeling that there seems to be an anti Ovacik brigade who can dish it out but can't take it.
Scunner asked the question what's to do in Ovacik,to be honest bonny lad,not a lot,he's quite correct,loads of villa's,lots of hotels,bars and restaurants,couple of members made replies pointing out various activities.
Alright Scunner,inkerman,and any other one living in Calis I'me coming down there for a day,can you let me know of any attractions,places of interest,things of outstanding beauty,anything with a WOW factor. I'me not being fecicious,I'me being totally serious,I'll go down for the day,go to all the places suggested,and post a totally unbiased opinion.
P.S. if anyone replies back what a load of piffle I'll sccccream. :)
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So, bearing in mind your first post was a scathing attack on Calis in reply to my appraisal of Ovacik, this is interesting :D
You now agree with that appraisal, you agree your reply was 'extreme' and it does appear that your reply was based on what you have read, and not what you have seen. At least I've been to Ovacik!
To try one more time to get my point across...
I would find Ovacik too quiet for me to live, especially out of season. I don't see it as a 'must see' place for someone looking to experience Turkey further afield (and as I also said, I don't see Calis as one either). I don't think there is much to see for a tourist looking for tradition and culture in either area. There are many 'must see' places before either.
Where the insult to Ovacik from me was I simply don't know. Just a one line description, which you now agree with.
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What a load of piffle ;):D ;):D ;):D
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Agreed ;)
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No Scunner,I do'nt agree that my posting was extreme,you've taken it out of context,I stated that describing Calis beach as I did in my first posting was extreme,I have since modified that description,I said you were right about there was not a lot to do in Ovacik,there's plenty of bars,decent restaurants etc,but nothing to bring a tourist up for the day expecting to find anything exciting,apart from going for a microflight,or doing the leap off the Babadag etc. Your spin on the place was a long road,a billion villa's,I did'nt think it was a very constructive reply to a member wishinh to stay here for two months.So,no,Ido'nt agree with you.
I think my observations in my last posting are valid.
I think the issue about Calis beach is public knowledge, I was down Calis last week,so my comments were'nt hacked out of one of the local newspapers,as I've stated I'll give it a day in Calis,soon as someone lets me know what I can see or do down there 8)
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I'll give it a day in Calis,soon as someone lets me know what I can see or do down there.
Swim in the sea,paddle, sail, wind surf, watch the sunset from a beach side bar. All things sadly lacking in Ovacik. ;)
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Why travel all the way to Calis when I can jump in the jeep and be in Olu Deniz in 10 minuites,and without being in any way antaganistic given the choice between the two beaches I would plumb for Olu Deniz it having the blue flag.But you are totally correct Ovacik does not have a beach.Hope this dos'nt start another controversy off about the merits of the two beaches. 8)
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Originally posted by Scunner
Ah, taking my post 100% literally, very good.
so its not true? phew
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There is no comparison between the two beaches, but you do not have to drive to the beach in Calis, take the paragliding and micro lighting out of the equation as they are hardly every day activities and Ovacik has very little to recommend it. Just my opinion of course, nothing more, although Scunners appraisal was a tad exaggerated he was not far off the mark. 8)
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I know which beach id prefer.....Olu Deniz....for the same reason as goeordieboy...the blue flag.....the sunsets are spectacular there to, sitting in a bar drinking my Efes..and all for a short ride from Ovacik....where you can see spectacular sunsets aswell from your own terrace or pool side, with a bottle or two of Efes!!
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MikeA,If I want to visit Calis beach,I've got drive there,I live in Ovacik.And yes you are quite correct again,there is no comparision between the two beaches,apart from the fact that Olu Deniz has been awarded the blue flag,but there again,like your good self I'me just stateing my personal preference. 8)
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what are you talking about Olu Deniz for Geordieman? You live in Ovacik! We can all drive to a blue flag beach, it's Ovacik you were comparing with Calis!!!
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I'me with you on that one BTG nothing better than sitting on one's back patio clutching a ice cold Efes out of the fridge and watching the sunset while one ponders the mystery of life. 8)
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When I first visited Ovacik, I thought it was just the road from Fethiye into Hisaronu but quickly realised there was more to it. I am very happy with Ovacik as it is quiet and relaxing but within easy reach of the surrounding towns and villages. True it is more popular with those who prefer private accomodation, but lets remember that they are visiting the area and not just Ovacik. I see Ovacik, Hisaronu, Oludeniz, Calis, Kayakouy, Uzumlu etc as all part of the Fethiye region. Each place will appeal to people differently. When any asks about the area I promote in a positive light as there are places to suit many tastes. I try not to push my personal opinion as not everyone is the same and if they have asked a question, it may be that they want to make an informed decision about wether to visit the area.
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Does it matter if its Ovacik or Calis, Olu Deniz or Calis Beach.....as long as you have an Efes....you can ponder......but you will still come up with the same thought......What a wonderfull place Fethiye is .....and how privelaged you are to be here!!!!:D
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Hello Scunner,MikeA,in kind response to my query as to what I could in Calis for the day kindly told me about the beach,paddleing,etc.
I poltely pointed out why should I drive all the way to Calis when I can sample the same delights virtually on my doorstep,so that is why I mentioned Olu Deniz,in response to his posting.
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You don't have to be on the beach, we have many people who say 4km to the beach is ideal for them and some only visit once or twice as they would rather chill out round a private pool in beautiful surroundings.
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where better place to have with beautiful surrondings....Ovacik of course:D
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Bloody hell Brian,steady on,you're chucking petrol on the fire 8)
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Some prefer Calis, some prefer Ovacik. Thankfully most don't turn up and slate the other within five minutes of joining a forum. Stay happy ovacik types, vive le difference, as they say in Germany.
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OMG!!!!
I simple question = 69 replies and 1326 reads!!!
Can we all calm down and just enjoy where we all choose to holiday/live??
Thanks for the info tho'!
Jen x
:) :)
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No truer words said Keith,we all have a view not allways the same view but thats life....we all probably agree though....Fethiye...is the place to be!!!!!
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Jenny well said! Now is london better than Manchester or Newcastle to live? [Only joking Please dont start another post}
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I hereby declare that as Ovacik is within the boundaries, and goverened the the Olu Deniz Municipality, we do indeed have our own beach! - The one with the blue flag: 8)
I'm stretching this a bit now aren't I ? ;)
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Nothing like a controversial post to turn a bland topic into a really good debate and also now created spin-off topics:D
Tinx ;)
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Originally posted by minimoo
I have been bitten by mozzies in Hisaronu, Ovacik, Olu Deniz, Kaya Koy, Calis, Fethiye, Uzumlu, Kemer, Antalya, Kalkan, Marmaris, Izmir and Kusadasi:D
Hi Minimoo, have you a little triangle sticker for each bite? :)
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Unfortunately not Rindaloo!!! :)
Seriously though, we have to be responsible on this forum. Think of any new members who happen to look at this topic. They are going to think the entire Fethiye area is about to break out in gang wars!
Please everyone, promote the whole area and let new visitors make up their own minds.
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Originally posted by BabaYard
I hereby declare that as Ovacik is within the boundaries, and goverened the the Olu Deniz Municipality, we do indeed have our own beach!
Not at all - I live in a beautiful part of Turkey - Gocek Calis, near Bodrum :D
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Yep, I've heard that Calis is similar to Bodrum....... I also read somewhere that Hisaronu is like a Benidorm in the Sky ;)
I guess this is like reverse psychology marketing..? If we all slag the area's off enough, then maybe we can increase tourism exponentially (big marketing word) :D It's like telling your kids not to do something.. :P
I think this creative 'blue sky' thinking has got me onto something now
(did you see what I did there?)
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I didn't slag anyone else's area off, it was someone from Ovacik that did that :P
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Gang wars! now theres a thing.
Calis Cowboys Rule ok!
Uzumlu Warriors
Ciflik Chiefs
Fethiye Fffff...
Ovacik O something....
Hisaronou H's
and what ever else you can think of
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I'll take any of them on with the Calis Cowboys. Apart from that Uzumlu lot, they sound scary ;)
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In Ovacik we dont have to prove a point...not like Calis it seems... the topic is proving that it has to be promoted by going on about how good it is,lol,...self praise is not always a good point,lol
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Well we wasted our time then with this 195,000 post website about Calis, set up to promote how good it is. What's your point Brian?
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yes your PR team is doing well.......
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point being...........we all live in Fethiye.....and what a wonderfull place to be....and long may it be that way!!!
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Funny though, how " In Ovacik we dont have to prove a point". This is true - when confronted with the opinion that Ovacik may be not high on the list of places to visit in Turkey, Geordiechap couldn't talk it up, he could only attempt to talk Calis down :)
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Quite agree Brian (for the 5th time ;) )
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There is no need to talk places down.....there is no need to talk places up either...places have ways of promoting themselves, with a little help from others, Fethiye is the place to be....all areas, and should be promoted that way to by all who realy care about the place.
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That's what we do here Brian :D
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well im glad we agree, keith, ovacik and calis are both good places to live and promote...why....because there both in Fethiye, along with other areas.....and....there in Fethiye...the most wonderfull place to be!!
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I think we agreed 5 pages ago ;)
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Amen
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I personally would like to explain to any new member who has got in this thread and is wondering what the hell is going on.Basically if you care to read the original thread it was a request for info on Ovacik,I made a reply,after a remark by Scunner,that obviously caused a bit of distress with the Calis mutal admiration society.Part of my posting I admitted was excessive,and I modified it,the rest you can obviously read and draw your own conclusions.Scunner has interpreted my remarks as slagging off Calis,but strangely enough in all my postings I have never said that I dislike Calis,I'me quite often down in Calis meeting friends,they find all this quite amusing.There's another topic on the Ovacik forum, New name for Ovacik,or something to that effect,no ones reacted to it in a negative way,I do'nt know if we're supposed to,but myself personally think its light hearted,good for a titter.I've even suggested makeing it,with scunners permission,into a competition.So,basically the threads turned into friendly rivalry between two different areas,well,that's my interpretation of things.:D
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By the way Brian,you're not the Brian I spotted in the Migros cafe this morning trying to chat the manageress up are you. :o
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me......inersent me...............of course it wasnt, geordieboy.....it might have been my twin brother though,lol....noy guilty ypur honour!!!!!
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Scunner (and Brian the Gardener) .... please can I be moderater again tonight and close this thread?? It is even worse than the Uzumlu disagreements!! All of you calm down! If we all liked the same place, it would be so overcrowded! And what will the newbies think??!! aka Rottweiler...
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Sorry Scunner... not Moderater....CHAIRMAN OF THE BORED!! Just for one minute please ..... I need the power!!
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Now now BCB, we have all agreed on this one some time ago so your powers need not be reinstated
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Hi all
Has anybody any pics showing what Ovacik loooks like? I have been on lots of websites, but they all show Olu Deniz and Hisaronu?
I am staying at Yasaroglu 5th Oct and want to know what the area looks like??
Jen x