Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Buying Property in Calis Beach, Fethiye and Turkey => Topic started by: kizkucuk on December 09, 2011, 13:59:57 PM
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I was talking to someone today in Calis who is trying to sell their property. They have been told by a "friend" that the law regarding the sale of property has changed and that because she is English she cannot sell directly to another English person - she has been taken to meet a Turkish Solicitor who has told her that the tapu will have to be transferred into a Turkish persons name and then it can be sold to a foreigner. The Turksih Solicitor has kindly offered to have the Tapu in their name.
My response was - what a load of b... sh.....! She assures me it's true - I've told her to get proper advice and warned her that if she changes the tapu into someone elses name the property will no longer belong to her. She assures me she has no choice.
I smell a really big rat! Am I right? Is this a scam? or have I just missed something and it's all above board?
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Sounds like a scam to me. She should not do this until she has definate proof, and not just from this Solicitor. She needs to speak to Sule. She is on the road to losing her property me thinks.
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I smell fish !
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Here comes another "They conned me and I lost everything" story.
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scam
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Tell your friend to tell her so called "Friend" to go forth and multiply. If she'd like this in Turkish, pm me and then nothing will get lost in translation :)
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I told her it was a scam - she's very trusting - hopefully she listened to me. It was just after I got home the little voice in my head said - what if it's true? Didn't think it was but thought I would check. I'm not even convinced the Solicitor is a Solicitor - she tells me that they asked for 12000 lira to change her tapu into her sons name.
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At 12,000 tl, presuming she's being quoted 3% prpperty tax, that assumes that the property is worth IRO 400,000 tl or roughly £150k.
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If, as we all suspect, it's a scam then it's not an isolated case as I know someone who has recently bought a property from a German guy and was told that his tapu would be have to be registered in the name of a Turkisk national, which he has done.:(
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scam
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What does she mean when she says she has no choice [?] Of course she does.
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I should have thought that if this was the case, either Cenk, or Keith would have advise/mentioned it. Then again, some people willbelieve all that a Turkish friend/botfriend/barman/shoeshine boy, will tell them, & I believe that Keith has probably had enough of trying to advise idiots !! Apologies to Keith if I have jumped the gun.
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Correct. The tragedy of Fethiye is that everyone is a property expert or knows one - and will believe their every word over the opinion of 100 of the rest of us so there really is no point wasting my life trying anymore. Nice to have friends though isn't it...
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Waving goodbye to her money me thinks.
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Originally posted by kizkucuk
I told her it was a scam - she's very trusting - hopefully she listened to me. It was just after I got home the little voice in my head said - what if it's true? Didn't think it was but thought I would check. I'm not even convinced the Solicitor is a Solicitor - she tells me that they asked for 12000 lira to change her tapu into her sons name.
I am nearly as bored as Keith with all the scams and warning people ;) but may I ask what has her sons name got to do with it [?]
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She originally planned to transfer property to her son and was quoted 12000 lira to change tapu over - she then decided to sell - same Solicitor has told her she has to sell via a Turkish person and has offered to be that person. There are still people who believe that if a Solicitor says it then it must be true. Interesting to hear that it's not an isolated case.
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I see now :-\ well I can only agree with what has already been advised, it can only be a scam, advise her to keep well away from him/her :)
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Although I think it is a scam,I have a degree of sympathy for this lady. Over the years we have seen some long discussions on here on some of the daft things Turkish governments have passed or not passed. I think most of us have come to the conclusion that anything the government passes would not surprise us. There are many people who would have, only for this forum,been taken for mugs.I always found it difficult to get impartial advice that I could trust.Many times when you ask authority a question they suddenly do not understand you or they are not able to speak English.
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The point is that the correct information is freely available to all - I'm not talking about CBF specifically - on other forums, from asking advice from others around them etc. Let's be honest, there are around 10 people within an hour or two in full agreement about what is right and wrong in this very topic alone - how has it taken till now for this woman to stumble upon one? And even having found Kizkucuk and been given what turns out to be good advice, still appears to believe it to be wrong.
Sadly there are people who time and time again don't research and refuse to listen to good advice. These people are the ones you see on Holiday Homes from Hell - not the ones who tirelessly asked around and searched for all the information the World had to offer on the subject.
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Keith, not everyone is streetwise. I worked in banking and some of the things that people have done with money and securities would make you think that these people are stupid. There have been a number of times that I have had to bite my lip. What is worse is that most of these were supposed to be educated people.
She was taken off to see someone that was a solicitor or claimed to be a solicitor. It is not possible to tell whether the bloke she saw was a solicitor or he was bogus. Most times a posh suit and confidence is enough for the con to work.If I use the word friend then I am talking about someone I trust and if they give me advice then I would tend to believe it.
I do not dispute that sometimes many will believe the local waiter (because of his nice smile)rather than someone who calls it as they see it. In most cases it a matter of believing what they want to hear and not what are the cold facts.
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I can't disagree with any of that and could actually (if I could be bothered) put together a study that quite clearly shows that the more educated an individual is, the more stunningly stupid they are when they come to buy a property in Turkey. But let's get back to the situation being discussed. Yes, people can be 'taken in' by a waiter with charm and nice smile in the relaxed holiday environment but this is someone who bought some time ago now looking to transfer ownership. It is not unreasonable to suggest that someone who has previous experience of the buying process in Turkey should now be conversant with the pitfalls of taking things on face value.
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It has'nt been stated clearly where this ladies property is
Quote "I was talking to someone today in Calis"
I own a property in Sogut on the Bozburun peninsular, when I
bought my property nearly 8 years ago the law had changed and
foreigners were allowed to buy in villages, my property is in my
name, however the law then changed back I beleive in 2008. If I
were to sell my property now I could only sell to a Turk or a
foreigner with a turkish company. It is possible that this is
the case here ..if her property is somewhere other than Calis
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It may be somewhere other than Calis yes - but if it is in an area like yours selling it via Turkish ownership (the solicitor) wouldn't then allow the Turk to sell it to her son. Unless he was Turkish/dual nationality/owned a Turkish company in which case she could sell it to him direct.
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what's the name of the solicitor that she went to?
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Cocktail Bar Ali
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probably!
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Yes - Please name the solicitor!
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I don't know I'm sorry - if I find out I will post after checking with the Chairman of the Board :-)
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Send this lady to me and I will give her all the advice she needs. Face to face and free of charge.