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Title: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 26, 2017, 13:56:48 PM
Just had a Lahmacun in the Mulberry tree. First time there and very nice. Bought a calendar for Animal Aid charity, great cause.   :)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 26, 2017, 15:12:58 PM
Would also recommend the Apple Cafe next door. Lovely place. everything freshly made. Go and look their  home made cakes in the display... Yummy... 
A place all the local shopkeepers use for their lunches and take-away sandwiches.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Ally B on July 26, 2017, 16:48:16 PM
Yes the Apple Cafe is well worth a visit.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 26, 2017, 20:28:50 PM
Thanks Jacqui & Ally B, stumbled accross the Mulberry by chance and recognised the name from being mentioned on here. Would like to try the Apple Cafe if i can find my bearings back there.   ;)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: puma on July 26, 2017, 21:40:28 PM
always go the mulberry lovely food they also do homemade cakes and jams and marmalade
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 28, 2017, 15:16:39 PM
Well after our lovely lunch at the Mulberry on Wednesday, decided to take my Mother & Father-in-law today. We all really enjoyed our meal but was disappointed when we were given the Turkish menu (as the waiter assumed we were all Turkish until i asked for an English menu) to discover the menu for English were a few lira more in price. My hubby pointed this out and realised we had been charged English prices 2days previous as i ordered the food. Bit naughty me thinks considering a lot of their customers were English. I know they give a lot for charity but same price for all please.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: JohnF on July 28, 2017, 17:16:03 PM
Bit naughty me thinks considering a lot of their customers were English. I know they give a lot for charity but same price for all please.

More than a "bit naughty", its tantamount to stealing. 

Mind you, there was one  occasion where we got the wrong menus and to be honest we didn't mind.  It was in Cuba a few years ago and instead of the tourist menu, priced in CUC's, we got the local menu priced in Cuban pesos.  Tourist prices were, on average, twenty times more expensive than local prices - given that even at tourist prices our meal cost about £2 and local wages at that time were about $20 a month, we really weren't that bothered.

But the Mulberry Tree, shame on you...

JF
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2017, 18:22:56 PM
Another one scored off the list - shame on the Mulberry Tree.

Isn't it owned by an English woman too?
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 28, 2017, 18:40:23 PM
There was an English woman serving Scunner but wasn't sure if she was the owner. But if so that's definitely not good ripping your own people off. Mind you i don't condone ripping anyone off.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: mercury on July 28, 2017, 19:08:58 PM
The owner is English yes..
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2017, 19:42:07 PM
Repulsive behaviour
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: marina on July 28, 2017, 19:45:18 PM
Won't be going there now  >:(
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 28, 2017, 20:00:25 PM
I ordered chicken shish and English menu 20TL, Turkish menu 18TL. The guy charged us Turkish menu price. Mother-in-law ordered fish 16TL and English menu 18TL. Hubby and father-in-law ordered pide 9TL but on Wednesday hubby charged 10TL as i ordered from English menu. My hubby suggested everyone who goes there order from Turkish menu, that'll teach them  :D
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on July 28, 2017, 21:06:04 PM
Yes, Mulberry Tree, English owned and giving the Apple Cafe a hard time because they opened next door. Been in haranging any customers who used to go to them and dare to be in next door at the Apple.  Also falling out with local shops who are now going to the Apple for lunch and sandwiches, which they will deliver.
I hated to hear this, as they are lovely people in the Apple, a very nice Turkish Family.  They get our business now.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: George Warner on July 29, 2017, 08:30:20 AM
Do you think they are the only ones doing this?although I have limited personal experience tales have been doing the rounds for years.
German prices,English prices and prices for those who live here full time


Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on July 29, 2017, 09:25:19 AM
Most likely not the only ones but I can't imagine there are too many British owned places overcharging their own.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 29, 2017, 14:00:16 PM
My point exactly Scunner
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: davybill on July 29, 2017, 18:35:23 PM
Was the  Turkish menu products, exactly the same as the British menu?
lots of expats eat there, and the food is very good and never heard any complaints
 and the owners are lovely people.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Colwyn on July 29, 2017, 18:48:47 PM
If you are just raising the price from 18TL to 20TL that seems very restrained. Hilary and I were in a restaurant for morning coffee. The only other customers were three Turks on a nearby table having breakfast. When the time came to pay up we were given the wrong bill. The one they gave us was for "Kavalti x 3" which was the same price for three breakfasts as the English menu quoted for two! Now that is yabanci pricing! We were planning to go there for dinner. They missed out on that.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on July 29, 2017, 21:01:52 PM
Yes the staff were very friendly davybill and the food lovely,  hence why we returned 2dys later. But as my hubby is Turkish and speaks very good English,  he was able to point this out about the menu. We were charged 2 different prices on separate days for the same meal my hubby ordered. One being from Turkish menu & one being from English menu. When we compared the two menus they were priced different.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on July 30, 2017, 10:08:18 AM
Maybe it is ok to charge Brits more, if the owners are really nice.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: davybill on July 30, 2017, 10:22:28 AM
Yes your friend at dawn Beach is realy nice Skunner but if he charges 2lira more for Efes
and  short cuts on the the Gin, is he real your friend?
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on July 30, 2017, 10:23:12 AM
He doesn't
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: madmart on July 30, 2017, 12:08:55 PM
H
Yes your friend at dawn Beach is realy nice Skunner but if he charges 2lira more for Efes
and  short cuts on the the Gin, is he real your friend?
He's never ripped us off either. Like Scunner we have given him plenty of opportunities!!
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: jsp51 on August 01, 2017, 14:47:54 PM
Was the  Turkish menu products, exactly the same as the British menu?
lots of expats eat there, and the food is very good and never heard any complaints
 and the owners are lovely people.
Actually, the owners aren't lovely people IF they are blatantly ripping people off. I won't be in there again.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 02, 2017, 16:02:21 PM
Have heard from a friend who lives in Fethiye that the Mulberry Tree did do cream teas for 20TL.  However, they are now charging an extra 4TL for the tea, so a cream tea with tea is now 24TL.    My friend tells me two of her ex-pat friends used to go every week, but have now stopped after the new charge of 4TL for the tea.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 02, 2017, 17:09:50 PM
Returned to the Mulberry tree today as we were all hungry and tired and it was the nearest place to us, also my Mother-in-law did love the fish. I also wanted to question why there menus were different prices. We asked the older guy for menus to which he brought back 4 English menus. My hubby asked him for Turkish menu to which he replied 'we don't have any because we're getting new ones printed in Russian and Turkish,' I then called the English owner for a Turkish menu to which she replied 'yes no problem' waited 5mins, said lady walked past our table said nothing so i asked again to which she replied 'sorry i thought we had some here but we are waiting for new ones with new prices and we always print the English ones first,' hmm is that because they are more expensive? Turkish menus mysteriously disappeared anyway!
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 02, 2017, 17:27:50 PM
Rana, They would not have got my business again.  So many good restaurants in the area.  Why not try the Apple next door or the Pasa Kebap opposite?   Or the Lemon H20 opposite the Post Office?.

Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: legless on August 02, 2017, 17:29:57 PM
they also read this forum
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 02, 2017, 17:41:47 PM
Yes jacqui i agree but we were tired and hungry and didn't want to walk around in the heat looking for a place to eat we hadn't  been to before, we'd had a long day. Also we looked at the menu for the Apple tree and it looked liked snacks. We weren't aware of the other ones you mentioned.  We did have a lovely meal on the main road called ' Hani Baba' a little expensive but nice. Yes legless that did come to mind after the menus disappeared.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: mercury on August 02, 2017, 19:03:19 PM
Sorry but it wouldn't matter how tired and hungry I was. I would never go back to a place that had blatantly ripped me off. Not once but twice before...There is no point trying to warn everyone else and then going back for a third time since you found out... Pasa Kebab are across the road... Lots of lokantas in the near vicinity...The limon tree close to Migros isn't too far away and their food is good.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 02, 2017, 19:13:39 PM
The first time Mercury we weren't aware we were overcharged as we were only given one menu which was English (i did state that on my first post) It was on our second visit we realised and we actually paid the cheaper cost because we ordered from the Turkish menu. I also wanted to confront them about their prices and maybe they 'might' have reduced their prices after knowing people are aware, this would have benefitted future unknown English people who don't follow this forum.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: mercury on August 02, 2017, 20:24:01 PM
You have done the people on this forum a favour
. Read up on how some businesses lost most of their trade by underestimating that we Brits do infact talk to each other.. It may only cost us two lira extra but it costs them a lot more in lost revenue by thinking that they can get away with robbing us.. Will you go again now?
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 02, 2017, 21:15:10 PM
110% no Mercury   :)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: JohnF on August 02, 2017, 21:44:37 PM
Will you go again now?

So how many other forum members wont use the Mulberry tree now? 

Just to score a few lira off the tourists and the British immigrants who choose somewhere with menu's in English. 

Why do folk want English menus anyway?  My Turkish is now pretty crap but I much prefer a menu in Turkish because at least I know what I'm ordering, some of the English translations are pretty dodgy!

JF
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on August 02, 2017, 22:25:04 PM
How about a British run restaurant starting to redress the balance by having two menus and charging 2TL more for each item on the Turkish one :D

It's repulsive, I won't be going and if anyone ever mentions the place I shall tell them how our fellow Brits have a special price list for us.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Highlander on August 02, 2017, 23:09:08 PM
How about a British run restaurant starting to redress the balance by having two menus and charging 2TL more for each item on the Turkish one :D

It's repulsive, I won't be going and if anyone ever mentions the place I shall tell them how our fellow Brits have a special price list for us.

Splendid post   :)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: incir on August 03, 2017, 09:41:02 AM
I certainly won't use it & neither will be extensive family - all visiting this year so that's a good few of us.  Look forward to trying Apple though.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 03, 2017, 13:52:26 PM
Rana, The Apple Cafe in Fethiye 5 Stars on Trip Advisor and a Trip Advisor Recommendation sticker in the window (something the Mulberry Tree don't have).  They also do meals and apparently excellent pasta dishes( see the reviews below).  We don't eat big at lunchtime but had some huge sandwiches and Phil had some great  chicken salads and their cakes are all home made.  Their smoothies are to die for. 
Read the reviews yourself.   https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Restaurant_Review-g298031-d10807727-Reviews-Apple_Cafe-Fethiye_Mugla_Province_Turkish_Aegean_Coast.html
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Christie on August 03, 2017, 14:04:15 PM
Looking at the photos of the eclairs, meals and drinks, we will certainly put this on our list for September.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 03, 2017, 14:09:57 PM
Are you on commission Jacqui :D  joking aside thanks we will definitely try there, just when we went we couldn't see full menu on the board. Looks lovely   :)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 03, 2017, 14:41:04 PM
I just want to see them doing well, they are such a nice family, who are getting a hard time just now.  I know a lot of businesses go under in the first year and it would be a shame to lose them.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: mercury on August 03, 2017, 21:11:53 PM
I knew of a guy who overcharged Turks from Istanbul in his pension because they are "rich" and they can afford it.. So not only Brits ripping their own off.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: JohnF on August 04, 2017, 09:33:09 AM
There is a long history of "dual pricing" in Turkey when it comes a yabanci, especially in bars & restaurants and anything to do with property maintenance such as plumbing, electrics, building work etc.  But the term "yabanci" doesn't mean just foreigners, it also means stranger or outsider.  In its literal meaning it could be someone from the next village or town, you don't have to just be a foreigner to classify as a yabanci.

I really don't have that much of an issue with it, it's just the way it is - if we eat out with (local Turkish) friends in a good few places Fethiye I know the bill will be lesser than if we were in the same place with (Turkish) friends from Istanbul. 

Conversely, there are a number of places we use in Istanbul where we get a decent discount on the bill - someone from Fethiye would pay more, even if they were Turkish. 

Swings and roundabouts for us methinks.

Even Spain has its own way of keeping locals happy - little things like not charging for bread, sending over a "special tapa" to try, free bottles of mixers and the absolute killer in a few bars, once you've settled the bill they send out a last round of drinks on the house  :)

The Mulberry Tree isn't doing anything a Turkish restaurant wouldn't do - what makes it so wrong is that it is run by a British person, and their British customers probably take it on trust that everyone pays the same price.  Personally I think they've been pretty stupid - give a discount yes, but to blatantly have different menus?  The "waiting for new menus to arrive" excuse doesn't wash - from experience, getting printing work done in Turkey is always pretty quick and a heck of a lot cheaper than in the UK!

JF

Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 04, 2017, 10:15:12 AM
It didn't wash with us either, that's why we walked out. Also most Turkish eateries have Turkish menu with English translation underneath so i don't see why the Mulberry didn't have this, but then there would be one price for all!
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 16:13:19 PM
Hi everybody , my name is murat lost of people know me in fethiye (people know me from redlion dvd )
i know mulberry tree owners and I do the design menü for mulberry treefor all year .
i change all the  menü price first week in march 2017. They have never ever any different price in turkisk , english and the russian menu. I think there is a misunderstanding, if you want i can share here turkish and english menu.
The owners are very good people , they help everybody  for everythink for anythink ...
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 16:39:48 PM
You are commenting on another restaurant at the wrong place.You can open a new topic for them.
i can give same details if you like.
apple cafe                            mulberry tree
efes beer is 12 tl                   efes  beer is 9,5 tl
english tea is 8 tl                  english te is 4,00 tl
pasta tagi atelle is 24 tl         pasta tagi atelle is 16 tl

Please There are 5 families working in this business. No one has the right to play with their bread.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on August 05, 2017, 17:00:18 PM
They appear to be playing with ours
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 17:06:34 PM
Misunderstanding and have a description of scunner.
For us all people are the same. The country does not matter in religious language
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: littlereddevil on August 05, 2017, 17:16:39 PM
What do the Apple Cafe prices have to do with a thread on the Mulberry Tree?
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: JohnF on August 05, 2017, 17:36:25 PM
I kinda wondered when someone like this chappie would pop up, surprised its taken so long.

Let the fun begin.  Maybe.

JF
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 17:39:56 PM
Apple tree cafenin is interesting with prices of mulberry tree?
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 17:41:30 PM
Depending on who the hat belongs to
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Colwyn on August 05, 2017, 17:44:28 PM
I kinda wondered when someone like this chappie would pop up, surprised its taken so long.

Let the fun begin.  Maybe.

JF
The last time he was on here there were complaints that he only ever posted on Buy/Sell forum. He's corrected that now!
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: sadler on August 05, 2017, 17:47:05 PM
Sorry if I have misunderstood, I thought that management of Mulberry Tree was British. It would be easier to understand if the British management responded to this post. A lot is lost in translation!  :-\
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on August 05, 2017, 18:01:01 PM
It's simple Sadler. Rana who has a Turkish husband says they have two menus, this guy says they are still cheaper than the Apple Cafe next door so it's ok.

I believe Rana anyway.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: sadler on August 05, 2017, 18:08:14 PM
It would still be nice to see the "British" management responding.   ;)
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on August 05, 2017, 18:09:28 PM
Why? The guy who designed their menu is here to explain :D


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Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: sadler on August 05, 2017, 18:15:31 PM
Well, it is Turkey.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Rana on August 05, 2017, 19:44:11 PM
Sorry Murat as littleredevil said 'what does the Apple tree prices have to do with the Mulberry,? Do you have the right to play with the Apple trees business? ' We sat with English and Turkish menu, i think my hubby and i can tell the difference in both languages. We have visited many restaurants, cafes but felt this was in everyones interest. Maybe now there is one menu (as when we went back the Turkish menu had gone) Have you ever asked for two different menus in different languages? Maybe not so how could you know any different.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 22:53:48 PM
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Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: murat on August 05, 2017, 22:56:36 PM
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Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: puma on August 05, 2017, 23:02:32 PM
well read all the posts,everyone to their own.
 i for one will still go the mulberry tree ,not for their prices whether english or turkish ,but
for the quality of the food which is 10/10 for me
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: Scunner on August 05, 2017, 23:34:19 PM
I expect from that you wouldn't mind paying a little extra for the food Pumes

It's your lucky day
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: mary62 on August 06, 2017, 16:38:30 PM
I'm glad I gave this one a miss this year. I don't mind paying the going rate, but I hate it if I found out I'd been 'Done'.
Title: Re: Mulberry tree
Post by: davybill on August 07, 2017, 08:25:32 AM
There is not many people that hav'nt been done in Turkey, Mary.