Thank you for the replies, mozzies don't seem to like me, i just get fed up of the buzzing when i'm trying to get to sleep, but that one of yours sounds good Brian, do you screw it to a wall, or stand it up somewhere, and what do you mean if i can manage til winter, i was in Calis all last summer, i even slept on the balcony all July and August, it was lovely. Alan