Scunner, I dont wish to fall out with you or others on this matter, but I am entitled to my views. When I said "As much money, for as little work", please read that I did not say the entire nation (as you have stated), but said a lot, not all. This can apply to all nations not just English, but Scots, Welsh and Irish etc. What I am saying about this matter is that Janice and her husband loved living in Turkey, but when their business failed, the went to England to work. Fethiye is not a seasonal town, there is work all year round, the problem is that the ones that work in the tourist industry, suddenly at the end of season are all rushing to get the few jobs available. I believe if you are supporting a family, then you must be prepared to get full time employment and not 6 months here and there. My daughter is 27 and employed by Hillside Beach Club as a Beauty Therapist, for 6 months a year, 6 days a week, 13 hours a day. Yes, she earns good money, but she works bloody hard for it, sometimes she is in pain from doing 7 - 8 massages a day, but still she goes on, unlike the others she works with, who are always moaning they are not getting enough bonuses or money, because they are not prepared to put the work in but sit around smoking and drinking tea all day. I find that when you say British are lazy, and Turks are hard working, the you are insulting people like my daughter. As I said not all Turkish people are lazy, but dont put words in my mouth. After all (and I am not being funny) you slag of some Turkish people saying they forced you out of Turkey.