Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Uzumlu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Scunner on September 23, 2008, 20:20:06 PM
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This is the CALIS BEACH FORUM and the Uzumlu subsection was added because I was asked to consider adding it by members who were from the Uzumu area.
If you want to keep criticising the way the team run it, go ahead and I'll ditch it. Speaking honestly I've never experienced such a concentrated collection of paranoid people, full of opinions to force upon others, and bleating that non-Uzumlu types are out to undermine them and their part of the World. Does humour evaporate half way up the hill?
One last time, if you object to the way things are run, don't come. If you want the Uzumlu section to continue in the way it has for the last couple of days, trust me that will not be happening.
The only reason I haven't deleted it is because of the good people that are up there. How they live with the rest of you is beyond me.
My suggestion as always is that if you don't like it, set up your own one. I have no reason to have an Uzumlu section on here at all and wouldn't miss it one bit.
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Please Mr Scunner Sir, don't let a couple of 'wombles' ruin it for the rest of us. Some of us are decent people who go about our own lives, just love Turkey, its people and its culture. We have met some wonderful people through this forum, have been guided and helped out on numerous occasions by the generousity of members. We love the banter and the humour. So please don't cut us off......:(:(
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:D So Scun. does that mean the northeners and non residents, and those of us who like a bit of banter, are still safe,sorry I hav'nt lived there for 5 years, (cant afford it) but being a visitor for 20 years along with many others hopefully just about qualifies us.:P If not they can sue me. ;)
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From what I have read in the Uzumlu forum Laffs, your opinion is not important because you don't live here so you don't know what you are talking about.
Don't worry, Northerners, non-residents and us banter types will always be welcome :D
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I live here and have done so the past 5 years. mankubrian
So you have been here for 5 minutes. Mike A has been mooching around here since the 60's and even though I have been here for nearly 20 years I still reckon he has lots of things to contribute where I couldnt, even if he does live in the UK.
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Originally posted by Scunner
From what I have read in the Uzumlu forum Laffs, your opinion is not important because you don't live here so you don't know what you are talking about.
Don't worry, Northerners, non-residents and us banter types will always be welcome :D
:D At least we know how to laugh, well you could bowl me over with a pea.[^]
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Your warning about ditching the Uzumlu forum seems a bit drastic to me Scunner,we are all aware that the Uzumlu forum,along with the Ovacik,Hisaronu,and all the other,for want of a better description,minor forums,are on CBF through your kind indulgence,and we all appreciate that fact.
I directed the question to the gentleman who seems to have been the cause of all the unrest as to whether his views were endorsed by the rest of the members in Uzumlu,did'nt get a reply,might have been because the topic was locked.
Without wishing to drag the issue up again,my spin on the situation was that he considered that the Uzumlu forum had taken unfair flak from people who did'nt live their,or indeed people who did'nt live in Turkey,and,rightly,or wrongly,decided to take up the cudgels on their behalf.
I believe that a lot of members from Uzumlu were a bit retiscent about joining the fray,from making comments that might be construed as being being inflammatory. I believe that only one member was knocking the manner in which the team runs it.As you so rightly point out you have'nt deleted it because of the good people who live there.The good people are in the majority,so why should these good people suffer for the actions of a few.
I,and probably a lot of the silent majority of members am frankly taken aback by your threat,sorry mate,that's how I read it,to be honest bully boy tacticts.I'me gobsmacked.
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No threats, no "bully boy tactics", this is a place I set up to be useful and fun. If people are going to slag it off and cause problems, my life will be better without it. Maybe I should allow the (unpaid, voluntary) moderators to post the threatening, nasty emails manubrian sent them privately, then you can tell me why they bother giving their free time to keep this website going.
I'm always interested to read about the "views of the silent majority". The problem with people like manubrian is that they not only believe their perverse take on things, but they actually believe that 99% of their peers agree with them. Furthermore they insist on ramming their options into everyone in as many ways as they can, but email those who have an opposing view with threats like (and I quote) "Go away and keep your obnoxious opinios to yourself".
No threats, I need the hassle of the Uzumlu forum like the proverbial hole in the head, and while I'M paying for it, I'll choose to keep the sections that behave themselves.
If you don't like that, tough. Ultimately it's my money and I don't like to spend it on crap like that.
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"I,and probably a lot of the silent majority"
Why is it that anyone with an argument that is backed up by nobody claim to be be talking for the silent majority, presumptuous in the extreme I think.
If the silent majority cared enough, they would speak for themselves, or maybe they have, but their would be champions are not listening.
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Well I can only speak of my own experiences but no-one has ever come up to me to make such a point. Only around 500 have come up to me to say how much they enjoy the forum - including many who say they never post but love it.
I'll evaluate CBF based on that. As Mike says, that's the problem with silent majorities, they only support anti-establishment views, but silently? Give me a break...
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Scunner, I know that anything a person does, whether it be running a forum or raising money for charity, always takes far more time and trouble than anyone would realise. I appreciate your efforts and enjoy this site.
I have also realised that anything said it filleted and twisted. So it seems pointless to continue. Maybe the silent majority realise this too and have chosen to live in peace.
I understand the rules now. If you live in Uzumlu, put up or shut up.
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Keith, I see your point, and quite frankly I would feel the same. I try to sit on the fence and not get involved in any slagging or sniping, and appreciate this forum for the positives and try to ignore the negatives. You and the mods do a fab job - and if manubrian has been a complete and utter EPKH, and put the Uzumlu section at risk, then so be it. I certainly wouldn't want that sort of crap and agression thrown at me and my collegues. But please, think about the rest of us good forum members who do behave ourselves [:X]:(
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No Linda. The rules are not that. In fact, there aren't any special rules for people in Uzumlu. The main rules are be respectful to others and if you have any comments or suggestions make them in the correct way. As I see it, it's manubrian and you that have taken this extreme critical position on "outsiders" views not being welcome on Uzumlu. Neither of you have contributed a single thing as a viable proposal for making improvements. Just bleating about how hard done by you are in Uzumlu.
To me, you are like my kids - you are given something free and without obligation and it simply isn't enough for you. I'd love you to turn up at my house with a pie you've baked for me and see your face when I slag it off in every way I can think of.
I'm not sorry for the tone of my reply, no more will I sit back and let you people rip 5 years of my work apart. If it isn't for you, goodbye.
If anyone has any constructive ideas on how the forum can be improved, I'm always contactable via my profile.
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Thanks Pooks, I won't delete the Uzumlu forum. I decided that it is better to remove a couple of bad bricks rather than demolish the whole house. Too many good members from Uzumlu to let the minority likes of manubrian and Rindaloo destroy it. Unless they can get the fabled "silent majority" to talk of course.
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But I haven't ripped 5 years of your work apart. That's riduculous. Show me where I have tried and managed to do that!
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Without trawling 205,000 posts, forgive me for being lazy and just go back one page to "So it seems pointless to continue" - I can't be bothered going deeper.
CBF not for you, I understand. It isn't put up or shut up" either - it's be pleasant when you post or don't post at all, and accept it for what it is or find it pointless to continue. Either way we'll still be here. Why people keep coming back just to criticise is completely lost on me.
For the record, I (and others) have taken the mickey out of Uzumlu. Oh, also Deliktas, Fethiye, Koca Calis, Karagozler, Ovacik, Calis, Ciftlik, Yaniklar, Hisaronu, Olu Deniz, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Essex, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.
Only certain members from Uzumlu appear to have taken such banter as a personal attack and I can't be bothered with that mentality anymore.
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Oh hang on, I did upset people in Ovacik once when I said it was one road and a billion villas and could be done in half an hour by a tourist. I won't be saying that again ;)
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Lol, sometimes the truth hurts........(I didn't like being called a HillyBillie particularly, but hey, I probably am to you city slickers !)
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I like Uzumlu.
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Hang on, The reason I got the hump in the first place in the Uzumlu section was the people from outside Uzumlu criticising what people from Uzumlu were saying about their own village. Fi asked for suggestions and within (I think) the first 5 postings, someone had a dig about our complaint about the water charges. It's things like that I am annoyed about. If people in Calis were being charged 3 times more for ALL their water than non pool owning people, they would probably be annoyed. And if they mentioned it on here and people from another area had a dig at them for their view, I imagine they would be annoyed too.
This has happened several times. And that is the crux of my annoyance.
My comment about "it seems pointless to continue" is purely about the ongoing to and fro on this matter. We aren't getting anywhere. Clearly there is a commmunication problem. You think its me and I think its a lot of people. We have to agree to differ, I suppose.
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Totally lost on many, but I like Uzumlu.
I like Ovacik too.
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Originally posted by Scunner
For the record, I (and others) have taken the mickey out of Uzumlu. Oh, also Deliktas, Fethiye, Koca Calis, Karagozler, Ovacik, Calis, Ciftlik, Yaniklar, Hisaronu, Olu Deniz, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Essex, Scotland, Wales and Ireland.
Only certain members from Uzumlu appear to have taken such banter as a personal attack and I can't be bothered with that mentality anymore.
Er hello? What about Leeds being pilloried? Don't we count? ;)
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I do apologise for my omission.
Leeds especially ;)
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Originally posted by pookie
Lol, sometimes the truth hurts........(I didn't like being called a HillyBillie particularly, but hey, I probably am to you city slickers !)
:) Hmm Hill Billy or HUb Cap Robber, now there's a choice. ;)
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Could always be a 'Hub cap robbin' hillBilly '!!!
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Originally posted by Scunner
I do apologise for my omission.
Leeds especially ;)
Ah bless ya! :D
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Think I,ll change my name to Granny Clampett,but do like living here in the boon docks of Ovacik and whose to say there could be gold in them thar hills black gold,oh shoot me I am going mad lol.
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Originally posted by saoirse
I like Uzumlu.
I like Uzumlu and Saoirse ;)
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lol Calvin!
Was great being out there for a month. Bloody crap being back here in dreary Belfast.
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Ballad Of Jed Clampett
Come and listen to a story 'bout a man named Jed
Poor mountaineer barely kept his family fed
Then one day he was shooting for some food,
And up through the ground come a bubbling crude
(Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea)
Well the first thing you know old Jed's a millionaire
Kin folk said Jed move away from there
Said California is the place you oughta be
So they loaded up the truck and they moved to Beverly
(Hills that is, swimming pools, movie stars)
Well now it's time to say goodbye to Jed and all his kin
They would like to thank you folks for kindly dropping in
You're all invited back again to this locality
To have a heaping helping of their hospitality
(Beverly Hillbillies, that's what they call 'em now,
Nice folks Y'all come back now, ya hear?)
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Bravo Bravo KKOB
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own up KKOB, did you have to look that up, or did you know it my heart ???!!!
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It was my topic that originally got hijacked and locked. Hey, there's more important things in life. No one would call me a shrinking violet but I do try to add a touch of balance and humour on here now and again - Manubrian imo went a bit over the top but is that a good reason to shut our section down? What will we all do with our winter evenings!?
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Maybe it's more about what I could do :)
For the record, sending spiteful and threatening emails to forum moderators isn't "a bit over the top" in my humble opinion.
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Scunner,we're not privvy to private emails so we do not know what was said. Manubrian is one contributor amongst very many. His views may not be held by anyone else? I think it's the bit of 'edge' on here that gets people logging on (which has to be good for your site); the alternative is talking about the price of tomatoes, the dolmus timetable or advertising hoardings!
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Is this the grump section?
anyone care to explain why I am always logged on to the forum even when my computer is switched off[?][?] 8)
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Originally posted by pookie
own up KKOB, did you have to look that up, or did you know it my heart ???!!!
Ever heard of Google? ;)
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:D Dont think he googled Shaun, I knew all the words too, ;)
LOL will be listening to Z cars when I go the match on Saturday and know all the words to that one too, but dont know any evertonians that do,:P( yeah, sad I know.)
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Milliemars, don't tell everyone but have seen people 'panning' for gold at the back of the village:P It's going to be my Winter passtime.
Scunner, on a more serious note, if someone has been so verbally abusive and offensive both on the Forum and personal email (which is totally unacceptable) can you not ban them?
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Originally posted by loz
Is this the grump section?
anyone care to explain why I am always logged on to the forum even when my computer is switched off[?][?] 8)
if you go to the top of the page on the right click on LOGOUT this should do it!!:D
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May I tentatively step in and applaud Scunner for keeping the Uzumlu forum alive,I should imagine that a lot of members,like myself,do'nt realise,or indeed appreciate the amount of time or energy spent by the backroom boys,and girls :),Perhaps one or two of the guys from Uzumulu still feel slightly disgruntled,but the important point to remember is the Forum is still intact. 8).
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Well stated Geordieboy. Please don't close the UDF down Mr.S. Hows a poor part time Uzumluarian going to keep up with events in the village during the winter whilst trying to earn a crust in South Yokshire?
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I don't want applause, compliments or adulation - I just want people to realise we do our best and if that isn't good enough for the minority then there isn't a lot we can do for you. Respect between members is no.1, some respect for the CBF team shouldn't need to be requested.
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Originally posted by pookie
own up KKOB, did you have to look that up, or did you know it my heart ???!!!
No, I used the wonders of "Copy & Paste". :D:D
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Scunner, a minority of 1, possibly 2? Let's get some perspective here.
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Originally posted by peecee
Scunner, on a more serious note, if someone has been so verbally abusive and offensive both on the Forum and personal email (which is totally unacceptable) can you not ban them?
peecee - he can and has :)
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Does anyone have a copy of the winter timetable for Uzumlu and could you possibly post it on the board thanks.(genuine request)
We were out couple of weeks ago so would to know difference between summer service and winter.
Graeme
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The difference is its colder. 8)
Oops, sorry, ;)
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Do you think this thread has died a death??
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I do hope so
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so do I, welcome home good to have you back .Calvin
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Well we go away for 4 days and boy what a lot has been going on !
The Uzumlu forum has been a great tool for me to try and keep people in touch with events happening in the village. It has been invaluable and would be missed by the majority of CBF members who live or have properties here.
I have thanked Scunner in the past for his support and I am glad that he has decided to let it continue.
It seems that one member has caused offence and has now been banned so can we please all get back to being the friendly bunch we know we are and use the section for what it was intended, passing information.
Fi