Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Cost of Living in Turkey => Topic started by: JohnF on November 28, 2012, 15:21:17 PM
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The number of tourists during July, August and September increased by 3.7% compared to the same period last year - sounds promising, doesn't it?
Unfortunately the downside is that the amount of money spent by tourists to Turkey in that quarter has fallen by 4.1% for the same period.
So, could a loose interpretation be that lots of folks arrived, but once they got here did they maybe find things a bit expensive?
Discuss...
JF
Stats obtained from: http://www.turkstat.gov.tr/PreHaberBultenleri.do?id=10925
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Tourism income is examined as $ 8 957 384 030 at third quarter of 2012.
8 Billion dollars WOW :o :o :o
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Maybe people are just shopping around more and eating at home?
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I wonder if people spend more when things are cheaper - like they'll have as many beers as they want on holiday when they are a quid, but tend to sit over them if they are relatively expensive. Same for eating out - people might do it more (and go for pricier dishes) if the pricey ones are still relatively cheap.
Of course the biggest cause of increases in holidaymakers and drop in spending is all inclusive holidays - something Turkey is becoming more and more well known for as a destination.
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Interesting point about AI in Turkey. But how long will it (the AI) last?
Every person I've spoken to who has been AI in Turkey for the first time has generally been AI somewhere else, Spain being the most common. The majority described their Turkish AI experience as being utter sh1te. Poor quality/choice of food, exorbitant premiums for anything other than Cin, Votka, Raki or Efes/Tuborg - and as someone said to me last week, "don't get me started about the wine!".
A few will probably return to Turkey but not AI but for the majority they were very disappointed and unlikely to return.
JF
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Of course the biggest cause of increases in holidaymakers and drop in spending is all inclusive holidays - something Turkey is becoming more and more well known for as a destination.
I would say this is the reason Keith. We didn't really notice a great deal of difference in the prices this year from last. Yes things had gone up but that is to be expected anywhere. It didn't make us spend any less.
We have tried AI before and in my opinion the only areas that get it right are the Caribbean, Mexico, Dubai etc
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I'd agree that the Caribbean/Mexico etc are the masters of AI - and they were our first experiences of the concept. We then managed to get a cheap week AI in Lanzarote and it was absolutely dire. The next was Turkey (Belek) which I must say was pretty good.
If you pay premium prices, Turkey can compete these days I think for AI. If you don't, it is as John suggests. I have never tasted worse wine (red & white) than in Turkish AI (non-premium) resorts - and the choice of included drinks is terrible. On a last minute escape for a long weekend to Majesty Tuana I sat and watched many Russians ordering brandy or whisky - both served both from the same magic bottle.
The question for me is what AI does for Turkey. JohnF suggests it is more likely to put people off returning - but that wasn't our experience. It was what got us there for the very first time, and what made us head off out looking for a real Turkey. We've been back a few times since ;)
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If tourists are going to turkey for the first time expecting good AI in Calis I hope they don't choose the the Hotel Remer. It will probably be the last time they ever visit Turkey!!
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The question for me is what AI does for Turkey. JohnF suggests it is more likely to put people off returning - but that wasn't our experience. It was what got us there for the very first time, and what made us head off out looking for a real Turkey. We've been back a few times since ;)
I didn't say all would never go back, in fact at least one couple who had a nightmare at an AI are likely to stay at our place in Karagozler next year.
If you pay premium prices anywhere in the world you can have a good AI - however I don't think "premium price customers" are in the majority when it comes to AI in Turkey. Its Joe Bloggs, his missus and 2/3/4 kids. He wants a decent pint, she wants her Bacardi & coke and the kids want unlimited soft drinks. They don't get it... they wont be back. They don't remember that Xyz hotel didn't have decent beer or Bacardi, they just tar all of Turkey with the same brush. I may be over simplifying it, but its the way I see it.
JF
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If tourists are going to turkey for the first time expecting good AI in Calis I hope they don't choose the the Hotel Remer. It will probably be the last time they ever visit Turkey!!
I thought you were a fan of the Remer?
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I think you may be wrong about the A1's in Turkey John. There are glowing reports of Lykia World, Majesty Tuana, Letoonia on T.A. In fact people go back year after year. One woman writes about her 8th year at Lykia World and how she would go nowhere else. It'a quite worrying really to think these people are never seeing the "outside Turkish world" We had friends who stayed at the Tuana this year, first time in Turkey and loved it and would definitely go back.
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I have stayed at all of those at one time or another (apart from Lykia World - which is technically not all inclusive but is pretty much a resort you wouldn't need to leave). Letoonia and Majesty are fine - I'd go again (if AI was what we were after) but they are in no way of the standard of the Caribbean/Mexico.
The drinks selection, as mentioned, is very poor in both range and quality - even when compared with just across the water in Rhodes, where they make their own Bacardi spirit, whisky, most of them in fact, and they aren't half bad either! Even the wines were fairly good. Ask for a cocktail and they make you one - unlike the majority of Turkish AIs I've known who produce a 2 litre milk container of pre-mixed rubbish and pour you one from it.
I have no complaints about AI in Turkey as I have said previously - but even with your Letoonias and Majesty Tuanas, it's sufficient - not exceptional.
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I think you may be wrong about the A1's in Turkey John. There are glowing reports of Lykia World, Majesty Tuana, Letoonia on T.A. In fact people go back year after year.
No, I'm not wrong in respect of the places mentioned to me over the past few months, none of which were local (Marmaris & Alstinkum mostly) to this area.
I know there are some decent AI's in Turkey, but they do come at a price the budget conscious travelers may struggle to meet. I spent a very nice day as a guest of a client at Hillside and that's one that'd be hard to beat... mind you, he was paying something ridiculous like £600/700 per day for him and his wife.
JF
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It'a quite worrying really to think these people are never seeing the "outside Turkish world"
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I haven't seen a lot of Turkey Jacqui although I have been to Uzumlu. ;D
Hope that doesn't make me a sad and/or bad person.