Fidel Castro

[stoop]

Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.

we could have fantastic social care in this country if we take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people. Takes the pressure off a little don't you think?

[JohnF]

Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.

take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people.

A few million?  Wow, you must have been reading the Sun, or maybe the Express, or maybe you just plucked the figure out of thin air because you haven't a clue...

Estimates vary for deaths that can be attributed to the Castro regime over a period of approx 55yrs, from 16,000 to over 100,000 depending on who you decide to believe.  Some estimates are purely anecdotal, some claim to have corroboration from two sources for each death.

Tale your pick!

What is undeniable is that during his reign, Cuba's literacy rate was higher than most western countries, their education system was first class and the standard of healthcare enjoyed by all the envy of many. 

JF

[stoop]

Fidel Castro: a man of extreme contradictions. Created a country with by far the best social welfare and education systems in Latin America, but achieved it via a brutal regime and suppression of human rights. Mind you, not as brutal as those of the dictator Batista, whom Castro overthrew, and is still revered by the Fascistic Cubans in Miami.

take a leaf out of his book and murder a few million people.

A few million?  Wow, you must have been reading the Sun, or maybe the Express, or maybe you just plucked the figure out of thin air because you haven't a clue...

Estimates vary for deaths that can be attributed to the Castro regime over a period of approx 55yrs, from 16,000 to over 100,000 depending on who you decide to believe.  Some estimates are purely anecdotal, some claim to have corroboration from two sources for each death.

Tale your pick!

What is undeniable is that during his reign, Cuba's literacy rate was higher than most western countries, their education system was first class and the standard of healthcare enjoyed by all the envy of many. 

JF

Well considering there were less than 7 million people in Cuba in 1959 it seems a million might be about the right number to get rid of in the UK today.

Add in the 1,1 million exiles who left Cuba under Castro and a few million is not far off the mark!

 

[Colwyn]

Being an exile in the USA is equivalent to being murdered? Have you been dabbling with illegal substances, young Stoop?

[JohnF]

Great, if you cant debate with facts - just make them up.

Worth remembering that a high proportion of those who left Cuba at the start of the revolution were in fact supporters of Batista.  Someone who could have given guys like Franco, Salazar and Ceausescu a few lessons in how to get rid of political opponents. 

JF

[Hamlet]

We went to Cuba in 2006 and had an enjoyable time there.
If I were to go again it would certainly be within the next 2 years as now that Obama has warmed relations with the leadership, American conglomerates are chomping at the bit to get in there and force their money making ventures, hotels, stores, fast food outlets upon the poor Cubans.

[c1]

Hamlet so right great opportunities to be had, some of the Islands ripe for new development, it might mean the locals are able to get better paid than $15 a month when I last visited, some years ago now. I would invest there after the commies leave office.