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Information and Services in Turkey Section => Residency in Turkey, Visas, Work Permit Questions => Topic started by: micky mouse on October 18, 2012, 11:05:31 AM

Title: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: micky mouse on October 18, 2012, 11:05:31 AM
I have just returned home from my villa in turkey after spending 115 days there this year,to put peoples minds at rest who may have over stayed the worse senarino is a fine of 220lira which i was happy to pay.But if you do not pay up then you will be banned for 5years,another friend of mind over stayed by 2 days and was fined the same amount.But the fine may differ if you over stay longer that i dont know.But if you do over stay its a abit of a night mare paying the fine because they only except lira so i had to go outside to the cash point to draw the money out.So if you do over stay make sure that you have some spare lira to pay your fine.I feel this is a silly law and must be costing the country money in tourisam as normally i would spend much more time out in turkey under the old laws.I know that you have the option of residency but one thing they require is a bank statement showing at least £3,000 Pounds in it and many people these days dont have that amount so its not possible to do.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Eric on October 18, 2012, 20:17:58 PM
A wage slip or a pension slip showing you can support yourself, over 800 TL per month I believe, will suffice if you do not have £3,000 in the bank.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: CleopatrasAsp on October 18, 2012, 23:55:20 PM
Eric's correct....when we applied for residency, didn't even have to present our bank statement.  My husband and I both receive UK state pensions, and a copy of letters detailing the amount of our state pension for the fiscal year was all that was required.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: DianaJ on November 21, 2012, 19:56:18 PM
I was just looking at my intended plans to go to Turkey next year what with booking time off work
1st visit was to be 29th April - 6th May
2nd visit 16th July - 29th July
3rd visit 24th October - 1st November
these days being specific to flights that I can get from Northern Ireland & working it out days etc Im going to not be allowed back into Turkey for my last visit until 26th October .... cant believe it 2 days out -would they stop you coming in or could you pay a fine on arrival anyone any experience of this    Diana :(
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Marggie on November 21, 2012, 20:30:56 PM
Hi Diana, I make your 180th day 25 October 2012 which is even worse (just one day) but if you are on a late evening flight not arriving until 26 October you will be fine.  Is your first flight on 29th April a day or late evening flight? You might be able to squeeze an extra day based on the times of your arrival.


http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadded.html?d1=29&m1=04&y1=2012&type=add&ay=&am=&ad=179&aw=
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: DianaJ on November 22, 2012, 08:13:52 AM
29th April flights gets us in 30th April 0105
24th October gets us in 2340

think Im stuffed will have to have a rethink
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: littlereddevil on November 22, 2012, 10:04:45 AM
But you are not staying more than 90 days in 180??
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Marggie on November 22, 2012, 10:22:33 AM
Arrives 30 April, making 180th day Saturday 27 October.  You are correct LRD in that Diana is not staying more than 90 days but when she arrives on 24 October she will not have enough days left on her visa as, come what may, she must leave Turkey on the 180th day and cannot return until 181st day.  Her last holiday in October will straddle the 180th and 181st days.

She would either have to leave Turkey for one day or change her October plans to arrive on or after 28 October.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: littlereddevil on November 22, 2012, 11:34:39 AM
Ok sorry, all a bit confusing for me!
Could you not just buy another visa?
Would they really look through them all?
I ended up with overlapping visas this hear as Istanbul would only recognise 90 days.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Marggie on November 22, 2012, 13:02:26 PM
Yes, it is all very confusing and for a country with large numbers of tourists every year not a good idea.

However, I understand Dalaman have been applying the new rules.  If Diana tries to enter Turkey on 24 October she risks being refused entry as she will only have a couple of days left on her Visa.  She could try buying a new Visa and hope that they are not too strict.   Some other points of entry to Turkey have been giving new Visas after 90 days - consistency would be good.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: NIGCOUSKAZ on November 22, 2012, 13:43:09 PM
I'm in the same situation - however I bought a visa late April 2012 (10 day stay) and returned (via Istanbul) July 2012 (12 day stay) on a 90 day/180 day visa.  I forgot about this and bought a new visa at Dalaman in Sept 2012 (22 day stay) again another 90/180 day - so not sure that DLM are policing that strictly, as the May 2012 visa should have taken me to 24th October 2012.

Under the 90/180 rule, the September visa should take me 1st March, 2013

I plan to travel out end December for 10 days, and then again in February for 2½ months - therein lies the dilema.

My plan was to purchase visa for December (or try and use the September visa) and then purchase a new visa in February.  I'm just confused as to who is using the 90 day rule or the 90/180 day rule.  The December trip is direct to DLM, the Feb trip is via Istanbul.

Looking at the Turkish consular website in the UK it is still referring to the old 90 day visa and no mention of the 90/180 day one.

HELP :-)
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: micky mouse on November 22, 2012, 21:42:54 PM
Beware i had the same thought and purchased another visa on my last stay and yes as soon as you go to customs bingo it comes straight up if you over stay by even a day.The computor will always let the customs man know you cant beat it.My fine 220lira no problems there but its alot of bother and time to sort it out unless you have the money in lira to pay up straight away.Other wise your marched back to the cash point from one office to another signing forms etc then all the way back through the airport custom checks etc again.They will only except lira for the fine and if you refuse to pay its a five year ban.Apparently over staying by more than one month then you may have a big problem anything up to 30 days the same fine even if its a day,so be warned i over stayed 15days if i remember.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Karennina on November 24, 2012, 11:50:16 AM
We have adhered to all the new visa rules really strictly and worked out all dates before booking flights,we purchased our second new visa  in October, when we came home early this month and went through passport control hubby went through fine but the guy was flicking throu &throughmy passport and then called someone over, I started to feel a little uneasy (ok I admit I am one of life's worriers!)but they started talking to each other in Turkish and both looking through my passport the only word I could make out was "besh" which I knew was five I had started to think they are not going to let me through for some reason thenthe guy suddenly handed it back to me I said problem he said no problem and smiled at me (which is quite rare for a Dalaman airport worker!  :)) so I never did know what they were discussing and it was so frustating has made me more determined then ever to learn Turkish  :)
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: NIGCOUSKAZ on December 17, 2012, 17:49:32 PM
Didn't want to take my chances and to take the hassle out of worrying, so bought a six month visa from Turkish Consular in London.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: KKOB on December 17, 2012, 18:01:55 PM
they started talking to each other in Turkish

They're buggers for doing that aren't they?  ;)
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: Karennina on December 18, 2012, 21:53:43 PM
ho ho ho   :)  ;)
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: yakamoz on January 06, 2013, 13:10:07 PM
can you advise how to go about getting six month visa and costs involved
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: micky mouse on January 06, 2013, 17:01:34 PM
Im not sure if you can purchase a 6month visa,but you can get a yearly one,not sure of the cost but someone on the site will let you know im sure as many people on here have gone through the motion of applying for one.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: KKOB on January 06, 2013, 17:35:29 PM
You can get a Residence Permit for as little as a month if you want to. After that, most people go for multiples of a year, but in fact you can purchase one for any number of months you wish up to 5 years.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: NIGCOUSKAZ on January 21, 2013, 12:47:58 PM
Yakamoz - I applied online to the Turkish Consular in London.  You have to make an appointment, complete the application and take bank details, where you will be staying etc.  Went to the interview on Thursday and collected passport on the Monday.  It cost £70.
Title: Re: Over staying the 90 days in 180 days rule the facts
Post by: yakamoz on January 21, 2013, 17:54:11 PM
Many thanks for the info re visas