Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Hisaronu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Sleuth on June 22, 2013, 06:24:50 AM
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Just returned from a mini break in Icemeler... There... smack on midnight and not a second past it ALL music in bars and clubs stops !!!! excepting for the sound proofed night clubs. Why oh why cant or wont Hisaronu adopt that law ??? please dont label me a killjoy, if you want to `boogie on` go to a `soundproofed ` night club.. and let the rest of us sleep or appreciate the quietness. Maybe next year when H comes under the Fethiye council etc... this law will be enforced... lets hope so
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A group of us went to the lovely Festival restaurant a couple of days ago, but the noise coming from the Boat bar next door was deafening, it spoilt the evening and we wont return. Its such a shame to see Hisaronu the way it is now. I do hope your right Sleuth and someone changes things as its madness there now.
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Have to agree.. its now the biggest talking point with most visitors here and ex pats who live here.. the boom boom noise level 100 metres from the centre mini roundabout in any direction is horrendous afterv9.15pm...complaints have been made but seem to fall on deaf ears >:( the bar staff and owners give no consideration to anything other than " play it loud, draw them in, and make a buck" what they fail to realise though is, each year they are helping to kill off Hisaronu as a holiday destination... I hear olu deniz at night is now close on the heels of Hisaronu as the noise volume increases over there :-(
In the past I have always defended Hisaronu from criticisms such as `Blackpool in the sky` and Hiroshima` and other descriptions... but these last few years I have to agree with those comments... its sad .. but as a local successful turkish business friend of ours recently said to us "" I have seen a change from ten years ago as to the type of person who now visit Hisaronu """ need I say any more :-(
Next year bookings to Turkey will be down further due to the international coverage of the police brutality and anti alchohol laws etc...
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From what I hear the 'powers that be' are introducing a new law which means that any bar/club/restaurant that play music of any kind, MUST have a licence and entertainers must also be licenced. If this happens, many places will not be able to pound out the music that they do. The midnight rule is seldom enforced and these clubs make so much money that they are quite prepared to take a fine but if these licenses are introduced it will affect the situation.
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They started that in Olu a few years back. Not sure if it still applies
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If the law is indeed changed as they are planning, i.e no alcohol to be advertised or sold within 100 yards of a mosque or school, don't concern yourselves with Hisaronu as it wont exist anymore.
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someone mentioned they are planning to move the mosque
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woops :D I mean build a new one away from the boom boom
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Cant really see a mosque been moved in such a highly religious country for alcohol benefits can you ;)
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Can't disagree with Des on this one.
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Oh go on! You know you want to.
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Even though the residents don't like the loud music and late nights, the holiday makers love it and seem to go back to Hisaronu year after year. My son and daughter in law both ended up in Hissy for stag and hen nights and did not get back until 6.00 and 6.30 respectively. I suppose the people with businesses are giving the holiday maker what they want.
There is a thread just started on Trip Advisor by someone who adores the place..entitled...."In One Word"
which shows how the place is so loved. This is the thread. I wonder what word Sleuth might use?
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowTopic-g609055-i10906-k6609396-In_one_word-Hisaronu_Mugla_Province_Turkish_Aegean_Coast.html
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In one word; PURGATORY, there ya go !! If only Turkish bar owners would realise that some customers like to be able to carry on a conversation with friends without shouting at the top of their voices. When the "music" ?? from surrounding establishments merge into an undecipherable bloody racket, it is time to close the entire resort down !! Just my rightful opinion, by the way.
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Jacqui.. Your family probably went to `night clubs` here that are open until the wee small hours... fair enough ..but the `night clubs` should be sound proofed and enclosed and causing no problems sound wise to the immediate neighbourhood.
Hisaronu is not like that unfortunately. Its not just the people who live here nearby complaining.. its a big chunk of visitors also.
Believe me most of the bars and clubs and the bars that now have a `club` license and call themselves `night clubs` ( Harmony, Bar rumba, Hustlers, Summer jam, Boat Bar , Paddys bar , Zombie Bar, Grand boozey... to name a few ALWAYS have their doors wide open, especially now the weathers warmer... they close them if the gendarmerie are around... and open them again immediately they are gone.. I have nothing against sound proofed nightclubs :-) But if the open bars were compelled to turn the music off ( not just down ) at midnight like they do in Icemeler...why should we be forced to listen to the karaoke drunks and the inane boom boom music ??? believe me the law if enforced would be welcomed by hundreds of visitors here and not just me :-)
One horrendous noise volume example.... at least a couple of nights a week the DJ from the Zombie bar opposite asda .. can be heard as far away as the Bayram Hotel on the edge of Hisaronu from 11pm til the wee small hours and thats not including the rest of the `usual suspects` bars !!! Sorry Jacqui... I am not going to read the article you highlighted, and just because your son in law enjoyed boogieing on in H until `stupid o`clock` welcoming the `boom boom ` music.. doesn`nt mean its ok and people shouldnt moan.... and be branded as boring old farts... it ain`t like that :-)
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well said Gordon !!!
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The law regarding the sale of alcohol will not affect existing shops who are already selling alcohol within the 100 meters of a Mosque.
People will always find a way round these things.
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I have to agree with Sleuth and Gordon. We used to have a trip up to Hissy for an evening meal, but last year was the last time, far too noisy, we walked in the middle of the street to avoid the waiters trying to drag us into the bars.
However, I am always surprised to read the Forum on T.A. about Hisaronu, it always sounds so wonderful from the posters, it sometimes seems like a different place than the one I have visited
My point is...us boring old farts don't like it, but it seems we are out of step with the people who go there year after year. So it's not going to change, if anything, it will get more noisy. :o >:( ;)
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Not a `boring old fart`actually Jacqui ;D no one loves music any more than I do ( all genres except rap and gangnam ( if I have spelt that right : :) ) my complaints are simply the `choice`of music and the `volume`
We need that `midnight switch off law` enforced around here... its bad enough from 9pm until midnight anyway !!! but at least a midnight switch off around here would be a start. Lets hope it materialises before its too late or Hisaronu will become Aya Napa or Maguluf >:( perish the thought.
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I cannot see it happening Sleuth, the whole point of Hisaronu now from the prospective of the younger people is, it's the party town of the area to go and have fun until late into the night. I remember my D.I.L. and her friends going up in a taxi at after midnight from Calis to "party". Even the waiters in Calis where telling them that was the place to go.
I often see and hear Hisaronu being advertised as the place to go for lively night life. I have friends who used to go to Hisaronu over 20 years ago, they told me the Farmers used to drive their sheep through the streets and it was just a sleepy little village. They went recently for the first time and where totally shocked and said they were lucky they had booked to stay in Calis Beach, they did not recognise Hisaronu any more.
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We have to remember that all age groups go on holiday.
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One of the respondents to the trip advisor question 'In ONE word how would you sum up hisaronu?' replied - Simply the Best! ;)
Maths was obviously not a strong point. :D
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I saw that, but if you look now some people are putting quite different words...
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All age groups yes... but if you look around the average age of the visitors seem to be between 55 to 60 .. a few groups of girls walking around at night but 90% of the rest are visitors in that age group, so who are filling the night clubs at night ??? turkish waiters and local turks seeking out the english girls.. it has to be surely. I cant see the 90% of 55 to 60 year olds `boogieing on` after midnight : :) Just to add.. I was speaking to a turkish shop owner literally just an hour ago .. who`s 9 month old baby cant sleep at night because of the music volume.... but she then assured me and confirmed that next season , Hisaronu then becomes part of the fethiye council !!! and they really are going to clamp down very heavily on the noise problem !!! eureka !!! it might not be a midnight switch off ( the best option) but at least anything is better than what its like at the moment. Hope the local ` usual suspects` around here get a rude awakening. by the way ... Jacqui asked me what my `one word` description of Hisaronu would be ? Now that we live here for seven and a half months a year my word would be HOME :D
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If you live in Calis/Fethiye or other areas around Hisaronu then you know what to expect and can avoid it, unless you are unfortunate to live there. As for tourists, well the tour operators wont tell you something that would mean them losing a sale. Some love it and some hate it. Steer clear if you don't like it and go somewhere that suits you better. Places like this will always encourage the young and foolish, whom are so easily parted from their money. The bar and nightclub owners in Hisaronu are delighted with their takings and will continue to keep the noise going to ensure that.
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Ray ... in Icemeler it works.... all music off at 12 .. everyone happy ... simple ... bring it on here !! :D
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Just to add Ray... there are less and less people visiting here now ..particularly this season already .. but it doesnt alter the noise level... the `usual suspects` have the volume on mega loud if only a handful of people in them
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Its been confirmed ! just read this locally... Hisaronu`s new look and sounds will be totally unrecognisable with its recent past :)
Be warned people, the licencing rules that hit Marmaris 6 years ago, are coming to Fethiye area. bars must apply for entertainment licence, each night they want to put something on, even a belly dancer. Bar men must not dance with shirts off, and no fire shows. A restaurant must only serve food and drink (no entertainment). A bar must not serve food. And bingo is banned as it's classed as illegal gambling. And advertising boards must not be on the pavements, Zabita come along with a truck and confiscate them (happened in Ovacik this week). A noise abatement officer will come along with a decibel meter, and any bars with music deemed to loud gets fined. ( we can fart louder than the level they have set !!) All of these rules were enforced in Marmaris, and are now about to start here. You have been warned. x
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If this does happen (and I wonder will it) How would it effect Hisaronu?? It seems a lot of people visit there for the night life... i.e. Spend the day at the beach in Oludeniz and then the evenings in Hisaronu. It may mean you have a lovely quiet town in the future with not so many tourists.
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less tourists here already Jacqui ... any quietening down will be an improvement and will be good for H in the long term....... 14 years ago it was busy here and no real excessive boom boom noise until `stupid o`clock ` in the morning... I remember it well So it can work .
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Along Koca Calis all of the music seems to have turned off/down at midnight all of this season,even the wedding drummer!
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I am not a huge fan of Hisaronu, mainly because of the noise. However, to be fair the Jandama do ensure that the music is off or the doors are closed after midnight, fines are levied against the owners who ignore this rule. Calis also has this rule, many try to push it a bit beyond the boundaries. The first Calis Concert, charity or no charity the Jadama were there ready to pull the plug. So I am not sure what or why this thread is discussed, the rule has always been in place.
Hisaronu, I for one when I round the corner by the phone boxes shudder and beg not to be taken any further, the best night I ever had in Hisaronu was during a power-cut, absolute bliss and the view of the stars a delight. ;D
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Sleuth, ya miserable ole git, ;) just wait until Club 18-30 get their hooks into Hisaronu, those bad boyz & girlz will have yer lugs a-poppin' ma man !! 8)
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ole git.. yes... ;) miserable ??? those here who know me most would disagree with that ;) concerned about the demise of Hisaronu ? yes ..... and you are right Gordon.. club 18/ 30 could be the next biggest thing here in H.. and whats happening here right now would then pale into insignificence : :) :o
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Loz, The thread is about noisy after midnight in HIsaronu. Sleuth lives there 7 1/2 months per year and is complaining that the noise goes on after midnight at the moment.
I have pictures of a party going on in one of the bars and dancing on the tables. It was my D.I.L's hen night in HIsaronu last September and she and her friends did not leave Calis by taxi until after midnight to journey to Hisaronu and apparently where partying until 6.00am in the morning.