Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Learn Turkish => Topic started by: brummyboy on March 07, 2006, 18:34:44 PM
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i was suprised to read today that it is thought that saint nicholas is from turkey ,patara
i was wondering if anyone else knows any interesting historical facts on turkey .[?]
marcus ;)
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It isn't just thought that St Nicholas was born in Turkey - he definately was! I believe he was buried in Istanbul (but don't tell the kids!)
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any more turkish history anyone?
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Yeah.
They used to have a wooden horse in Troya.
Crabbit
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BB i bought the eyewitness DK guicde to Istanbul and its got a section at the start on the history of turkey, the Ottoman empire and Ataturk etc - quite interesting. and i like the Dk guides cos they have lots of nice pictures !!!!:D:D
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Marcus
They also invented irrigation, carpets, domesticate animals (apart from dogs?!?) and have the second oldest city in the world after Jericho.
Dippz
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They also had central heating, public loos, running water and steam rooms while we were still dressed in furs and painting ourselves blue!:D
Ephesus was one of the most important cities in the world and was one of the only 3 cities lit at night, the other two being Rome and Alexandria, and later the Ottoman empire was one of the largest and longest lasting - over 500 years.
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For anyone religious, the shrine of the Virgin Mary is just outside Ephesus, this is where Mary is believed to have travelled to with St John after the death of Christ. It was officially recognized by the Catholic Church at the end of the 19th century and has been visited by two Popes, Paul V1 and John Paul 11. It is visited by thousands of pilgrims every year. It is a very beautiful, peaceful place where the Virgin is believed to have been buried, by Christians and Muslims alike.
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Christianity first bloomed in Anatolia with the first church of Christianity dedicated to St. Peter in Antioch.
Early Christians fleeing from Roman persecution found refuge in Cappadocia's underground cities.
Anatolia became the heartland of the eastern realm of the Roman (Byzantine) Empire.
The Greek Orthodox church is still located in Istanbul.
The Garden of Eden was said to be watered by a river which separated into four streams as it left the garden. Two of them, the Tigris and the Euphrates, are found in the mountains of eastern Turkey.
Mount Ararat, the highest mountain in Turkey, is believed to be the place where Noah's Ark landed.
The Seven Churches of the Apocalypse were all located in Anatolia - Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatira, Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea.
St. Nicholas - today's Santa Claus, was born in Patara (next to Kalkan) and lived as the bishop of Myra in Demre (also near Kalkan).
Followers of Jesus were first called "Christians" in today's Antakya.
All Ecumenical Councils were held in western Anatolia.
Over one hundred Christian churches of many different sects are found in the city of Istanbul.
~Sevi~
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is believed to be the place where Noah's Ark landed
How long was it in orbit for?
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cried laughing at that until my hubby reminded me that it "landed" when the water subsided!!! Had this vision of the Noah and his ark zooming around space with all the giraffes, elephants etc hanging out of the windows....!!
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Does it really matter how its worded? Seviyorums is an interesting posting, well researched, so instead of laughing can we get back on topic now?
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Marcus,
The next time you are in Fethiye why not give the Museum a go. Its only 2 lira and you more or less have the place to yourself (The last 3 times I was in there I did anyway).
The Museum itself looks like it hasn't changed since the 60's so it's history within history if you like. The funny thing is that they have so many artifacts there that they have no room to store them and this is evident when you take look around the outside area of the Museum. You can see pilars, tablets and all sorts of other bits and bobs just left against the walls outside. At first I was quite disgusted that these important historical artifacts where left in such a way but then when you think that they just have so much of this stuff they don't know what to do with it and I wonder because these pieces are from the Roman empire are they not treated with the same respect as if they were Turkish? Just a thought.
For those who haven't yet, you really must take a trip to Patara. It's fantastic and only an hour or so away. There is so much Lycian history around there too with amphitheatres of Xanthos etc. On the way look out for the Lycian graves cut into the rocks (KayaKoyuoldboy will I'm sure let you know the route from Fethiye)
and spookily it has been said that between Xanthos and Patara there has been reports of a mysterious lady crouching behind shrubs, she is said to have long flowing blonde locks. One minute she is there and the next she's gone. Wierd!!
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The king from England who visited Turkiye first time (also last one) was Edward VIII in 1936 with madam Simpson. Then neither Turkiye saw a king neither the world saw a big love. :(
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Near Sanliurfa archaeologists are " uncovering Göbekli Tepe (pronounced Guh-behk-LEE TEH-peh). The site is vaguely reminiscent of Stonehenge, except that Göbekli Tepe was built much earlier and is made not from roughly hewn blocks but from cleanly carved limestone pillars splashed with bas-reliefs of animals—a cavalcade of gazelles, snakes, foxes, scorpions, and ferocious wild boars.
The assemblage was built some 11,600 years ago, seven millennia before the Great Pyramid of Giza. It contains the oldest known temple. Indeed, Göbekli Tepe is the oldest known example of monumental architecture—the first structure human beings put together that was bigger and more complicated than a hut. When these pillars were erected, so far as we know, nothing of comparable scale existed in the world."----Charles C Mann.
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2011/06/gobekli-tepe/mann-text
I've just noticed that this particular topic is from 2006. Anyway I'll post it here. The web page above has slides and film of the model of the structures being made.
Brian
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Boris Johnson
His Turkish great grandfather, Ali Kemal Bey, was politician and journalist and was assassinated in the 1920s, following political conflict in Turkey.
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Native Americans are Turkish.
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http://flightsintotheforeign.blogspot.com/2010/01/crazy-things-that-apparently-originated.html
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Ataturk made wearing a fez illegal, I'm not sure if the law has ever been recinded.
I was also told this story but I am not sure if it is true...
In an effort to speed modernisation Ataturk decided to ban the wearing of full muslim body coverings for women, there was a national outcry, so he changed the law to say that it was still legal, but only if you were a prostitute. Women quickly became less veiled.
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In an effort to speed modernisation Ataturk decided to ban the wearing of full muslim body coverings for women, there was a national outcry, so he changed the law to say that it was still legal, but only if you were a prostitute. Women quickly became less veiled.
did you believe such a big lie? :D please be careful what you write thing is true or not.if you are not sure it is true, you should not write here...
you can read about reforms here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk's_Reforms
and you can read about veiling in Quran
http://www.quranic.org/quran_article/22/headscarf_and_veiling.htm
by the way, there is a Turkish proverb "Bilmemek ayip degil, ogrenmemek ayip." it means "It´s not a shame not to know; what is bad is not asking."
Harun
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Originally posted by hm3000
did you believe such a big lie? :D please be careful what you write thing is true or not.if you are not sure it is true, you should not write here..
This incorrect information can be found on dozens, maybe hundreds of websites. On those websites it sits unquestioned. What has happened here is someone has found the information and copied it to CBF, allowing someone to correct them with the facts. I would say that is a positive thing. If they hadn't posted it here, they would maybe have believed it for ever. Now, they are wiser and I am sure will not be telling this incorrect fact to more people.
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Originally posted by hm3000
"It´s not a shame not to know; what is bad is not asking."
My point exactly.
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Doesn't saying "I am not sure if this is true" kind of imply that I am not sure if it is true? Either way thanks for the (perhaps overly passionate) heads up Harun, and in answer to your question "did I believe such lies" well I honestly didn't know, I have to admit to a certain liking for the idea of such cunning though overall I am glad it is not true.
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Ramses 2nd fought the Hittites who where from Turkey. In one of the worlds most famous battles. Ramses depicted on the walls over egypt his victory but, The battle was actually stopped and the worlds 1st war treated was signed between ramses (Egypt)and the Hittite king(Now Turkey). The signed war treaty is now in the Istanbul Museum.