Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Health & Healthcare => Topic started by: Rimms on January 31, 2013, 07:49:29 AM
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Big Day yesterday, two implants fitted and to be honest, for someone who doesn't get nervous, I was a bit nervous. Cagatay had arranged for an implant specialist to assist him with the procedure, being a typical Brit. I turned up for my appointment 20 minutes early and there was his assistant in the waiting room, who I believe had travelled from Antalya. Before they invited me into the chair, they closed the surgery door and spent 15 minutes in perpetration and sterilisation of the room and equipment. I have to say that I have never seen such high standards of cleanliness, even the handles on the light and regularly used dental equipment were covered in specially made sterile surgical sleeves to minimise any chance of infection. I was invited in, took a deep breath and thought, here we go !
The procedure lasted the best part of two hours, the care and attention to detail shown was amazing, apparently one of the things that needs to be avoided is the implant protruding into a sinus area, they took several X-rays during the treatment to check that their calculations were absolutely precise and a number of oral photographs were taken during the procedure which form part of the record and used by Cagatay to take me through the treatment at the end.
So the big question, Did it hurt?
I will be 100% honest and tell you that I never felt a thing, even the injections to deaden the area were preceded by a local spray anaesthetic and were painless. There is a lot of tugging, pulling and scraping noise, but honestly, not once did I flinch with pain. I used Ice packs and took the prescribed painkillers last night and awoke this morning, again pain free, there is some slight swelling and tenderness but not the pain I expected.
Don't get me wrong, implant surgery isn't my favourite thing ever and I'm not yet 24 hours into a course of treatment that will go on for several months, but my review is honest and I hope it helps others who might benefit from this sort of treatment but are a worried about the prospect.
Next stage, stitches out, I'll let you know.
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Thanks for sharing this with us all - I am certain there will be many of us who will be watching this space for your updates.
Hope it all goes really well for you :)
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Congratulations Rimms and well done for being brave I am sure we would have all been as nervous as you were. It's good that you have let everyone know the procedure as you will have put others minds at rest who are thinking of having implants.
We always tell everyone how hygienic Cagatay's surgery is and how he is such a perfectionist. His treatment, IMO is superior to the dental treatment we have experienced in the U.K. and at a much more reasonable price.
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Great news George, thank you for posting. I've been thinking of you and wondering how it's all going. I must say he sounds amazing and your post gives me courage for next week when my own treatment begins . .eek!
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I wonder if George's treatment might make a good topic on it's own? I could split it from his post of earlier today and make it a new topic - which hopefully he could update as more fangs go in till the process is completed.
I'm thinking that getting dental implants in Turkey is a subject of great interest to many in regard to costs, hygiene, process and pain. To have a separate topic would be quite beneficial to some and this is now tucked away on page 10 of this thread...
Any thoughts?
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Definitely - I would love to hear about each step - that would be really good and give many of us a little more courage and confidence.
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Well I think it's a great idea, I found all the previous posts really helpful too. It's a topic people are interested in, I know my friends and family here are fascinated that I'm having the work done in Turkey and seem to be keen to see how it all turns out.
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Yes me too, people were surprised that my Hollywood smile was enhanced in Turkey. I think friends imagined I was being treated in a desert tent with a Black & Decker. I'll speak to George and I'm sure he'll be up for it.
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No problem Keith, my treatment will also include an 11 tooth bridge and maybe some extractions when he finds what's underneath my current bridge. If there's any other dental treatment people would like me to try ......
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George - good luck with the treatment.
Can I ask you is the 11 tooth bridge being secured by the implants?
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Originally it wasn't part of the plan to do that, in my case the implants are at the very back of my upper jaw and the plan was to do a stand alone group of three implants and then these would be aligned with the new bridge. Yesterday when they exposed the bone, they found a section of bone that was a bit 'spongy' and most best suited to an implant. So plan B is to either bridge the 2 implants and form three back teeth or to incorporate the implants into what will become a 14 tooth bridge.
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That's quite a bit more work than you expected! In for a penny in for a pound! I originally wanted just a replacement of my old top bridge but as I've had work on many other teeth he suggested that we could improve the whole mouth with bridges top and bottom. I must stress here that there was no pressure from him at all. There was no charge for the consultation and he told me to go away and think about it. I had a great UK dentist for years who moved away. Since then they've not been so good.
I've reached the stage where you know there is much to do and old work is crumbling, so it was uplifting last year to stumble on this information and recommendation on CBF. ( started from reading Rimms comments re Cagatay's support and contributions to the children's charities.) Good luck George, keep us updated? I expect we'll be sharing that same chair over the next few weeks!
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I will keep it warm for you Lotty. Let us all know how your treatment progresses
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George I don't think you'll regret any of the dental work you've had or are having. I have a complete top denture supported on four implants which cost me 7,000 quid and it's the best money I have ever spent. I can eat anything I want with no difficulty, my palate is not covered so I can fully taste everything I eat and people don't believe me when I say that my top teeth are false ;D ;D. I'd just love to know how much it would have cost in Turkey although I would not have had it done there unless I was resident.
I'll echo your comment that it didn't hurt but it was a bit scarey. The drill into the jawbone was bit more like my Black and Decker with the hammer on than my Dremmel :(
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Ken, I don't like giving costs as there are so many variables in this sort of treatment, so far mine has been far from 'standard' with a number of complications and maybe a million miles away from what you have had. My treatment as described above will cost less than £3,000 when complete.
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I had implants by Cagatay as well last year Fantastic and about third of the price in Uk. This dentist really knows what he is doing and cant recommend him highly enough
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Hi I need one implant and have been thinking about getting it done in Fethiye so would be very grateful if someone could let me know where this dentist is please? Thank you!
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Hi, it's opposite Cafe Cafe in the first lane in Paspatur, parallel with the Migros main front road. If you walked through LC Waikiki and out of the back door, turn right and you'll come to the cafe on the left as you walk along. Cagatay Aras surgery is opposite, on the right upstairs. Hope his makes sense!
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Or on the main road where all of the banks are opposite Migros, find the D&P Perfume shop and you will see his board in the cut through to the cafe. The surgery is on the first floor, directly below the British consulate. It's last antibiotic for me tonight, I used the ice pack as instructed over the first 24 hours and have had very little swelling. Stitches out on Friday, then onward and upward.
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Much better directions! Hey all sounds good on the implants George, I'm getting myself psyched up for the start of my bridge work on Wednesday!
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Hope it went well for you on Wednesday? Yesterday I had another 360 degree X-ray and today I went to have my stitches removed. Cagatay used this high definition X-ray to check to within a millimetre that the implant has remained in the right place, it had and so now I have to wait a couple of months to let the implants and bone to heal together. Then he will start perpetration work on the bridge which will now integrate the implants into the bridge. So feet up for me for eight weeks but not for Cagatay who gave me some very good news about his business today.
He has purchased the premises next door to him along with the premises beyond that and he is going to extend the practice and bring in a friend of his who attended the same dental university as he did, his friend is a fully qualified dental surgeon and specialises in gum disease and other surgical procedures.This means the range of services offered from the practice will increase and the facilities for his patients will also increase. The architect and interior designers are currently drawing up the final design, he showed me some of the ideas they have discussed and I promise you, they look absolutely fantastic.
You have to wish someone like him the best of luck with such a large financial investment, he has given fantastic service in the past and I'm sure that this will propel him to being recognised as one of the best dental practices in Turkey.
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Thank you Rimms for all the info re Cagatay, Ive emailed him to book 2 visits whislt were in Calis in june for our 3 week chill out to do some work on my teeth , he has quoted almost £ 300 less than my uk quote.
Ron
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That's amazing George, you can relax for a while! Its great news about the business expansion, I'm not surprised, it's a terrific venture for him as well as his friend. I am very impressed so far even though its just been solid drilling! I have another appointment in half an hour, more drilling, then not sure when the finish will be on the top bridge. I'm probably going to lose some weight too, getting fed up with omelettes / soup now!
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Stage 2 carried out yesterday, a small surgical procedure to expose the implant, then an abutment is screwed into the implant and then stitched up. The gum will now heal around this abutment and leave the way clear to attach the tooth. 10 days to wait before I have the stitches removed
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In the uk we both pay for Denplan on a monthly dd. What happens when you live there? Is there the same sort of thing available.
I,m glad your treatment is going to plan,i,m a bit phobic about dentists,so I,m thinking how brave you are!
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I don't think there is anything here like Denplan, if there is then I'm sure others will comment. the SGK scheme covers emergency dental but I don't think anything like implants.
Believe me, I'm not brave, in fact I went to see Cagatay my dentist yesterday intending to discuss the time plan, the fact that I left with 15 stitches in my gum was a big surprise to me. As Chris said, at least I didn't have the time to worry about the treatment.
As far as being phobic, if it's pain that worries you then please believe me, there has been no pain whatsoever during my treatment
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I have to agree George, there's no time to worry, he just gets right on with the work! It's great really, the first day I went I was comfy and casual thinking he'd just discuss things, ha! No chance. Honestly though he knows what he's doing and it's the only way.
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Glad to hear its been pain free, the thought of 15 stitches makes my heart beat quite quickly!!!
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Your post regarding having dental implants at Catagay's was most informative. And thanks to your post, my husband has started the process to have implants. He hadn't been to the dentist for 25 years! We are very impressed with Catagay! What you have stated in your post is spot on. I am also having bridge work done to tidy my teeth up. So thank you George, if my husband hadn't followed your post he would not have gone to the dentist! :)
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That's so good to hear Jan. I'm really glad your both happy with the Cagatay, just wait until you see the final result, I'm sure you will be absolutely delighted.
By the way, as a follow up to my post about the enlargement of the dental practice, Cagatay has now purchased the adjoining properties and work is well underway, it's going to be really impressive.
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Stitches removed today, again totally pain free. I've now got friends coming over in the coming weeks followed on very closely by the Promises Auction and Spring Fayre and I don't want to be undergoing the next phase then, I've agreed with Cagatay that we resume first week in June which he says won't be a problem.
On the subject of the Promises Auction, we will again be auctioning dental treatments from Cagatay on the evening of May 29th and he will be at the auction if you would like to say hello.
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Can recommend the Dental treatment from Cagatgay. We got it last year as a present for my son and his future wife before they married. They were both delighted, and we got a real bargain. ;D ;)
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On the last leg of the treatment now, unfortunately when my 34 year old bridge was removed it revealed serious decay on some of the teeth it had covered, this led to no less than 3 root canals needing to be done. Anyway, today had a fitting of the implant abutments and Cagatay was delighted with the result, next week I get to see my implants in place alongside my new bridge, following that, a few adjustments and for the first time in 59 years I will have nice teeth. I can't tell you how excited I'm feeling about that prospect.
The new surgery is starting to take shape, I feel for Cagatay who has had to be the architect and project manage the project while carrying out his business which is really busy at present but the end result, just like my teeth should be amazing.
I've met so many forum members in his waiting room over the past weeks, not least those who bid and won treatments in the auction, I will feel like part of my social life has been taken away after my treatment is finished.
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Not only the nicest man on here then George? The bravest.. Oooh The thoughts of it..
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As I'm sure George will agree, you don't need to be brave with Cagatay! Treatment is painless, and there's no time to get scared, he just gets on with it, so before you know it you're on your way out. Very masterful ladies! I also reassured quite a few nervous people in his waiting room. So all you people who have dental phobias, visit Cagatay. Good luck for next week George, you're nearly there!
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I'm only 2nd nicest Anne !
I met the lady yesterday who bid and won the white fillings in the auction, Cagatay expected you to be the one handing in that promise so I explained about your move to the UK. He sends his regards.
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That's so nice and when I need treatment.. That's for my teeth.. I will be back to see him.. Couldn't face the dentists here after using Cagatay .free digs.. cheap flight. sorted.!!!. Say Hi too him from me.. x
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The day has come, I'm absolutely delighted with my new teeth.
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Made a 'new' man of George! ;D
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Seriously, I've now finished the treatment and the results, even tough I say it myself are absolutely Fab. I can say with 100% honesty that there was no pain either during or between treatments, if your considering treatment but are a bit worried then don't be!
I may have mentioned earlier that I smashed my front teeth when I was 12 years of age and since then have never had nice teeth, it's taken me 47 years since then to get it sorted out properly, the implants are just brilliant.
I want to thank Cagatay for the great work he has done, his attention to detail is fantastic. I also can't wait to visit my UK dentist who said that the work couldn't be done.
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Welcome to the club Rimms, we are both part Turkish now :)
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Click on the link and it will bring up a map. He is on the 2nd floor of the building.
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=cagatay+aras+fethiye&oq=cagatay+a&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.8917j0&sourceid=chrome&espvd=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
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Didn't you take the mick when I replied to the wrong topic recently? :D
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OOPS :-[ Sorry meant to be in the HeatherS thread.
As if I would take the mick out of you Keith. ;)
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Do you register and do 6 monthly check ups, is it pay as you go, or is there a denplan. Any idea of costs of checkups etc
Thanks.
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No need to register, just make an appointment and go along. We usually get check ups/treatment when we are over. Check ups are not expensive. In fact my daughter in law had an appointment a couple of years ago about some cosmetic treatment. He gave her a price, there was no charge, but she came back two years later and had the recommended treatment.
It's usually about 1/3 less for any treatment in Turkey than the U.K.
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Thanks jacquie.