Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Hamlet on July 17, 2014, 09:12:04 AM
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Here is a photo showing the latest state of play with the reconstruction.
I do think that the ice cream seller is a little early putting his umbrella up though! 8)
(http://s7.postimg.org/71ttm3jlz/image.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/71ttm3jlz/)
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We were there last week and my wife thinks they have ruined it ! To much new stonework.
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There is a guy on T.A. who goes mad if anyone calls it an Amphitheatre. He corrects everyone and says it.s not an Amphitheatre. Apparently, it is just a Theatre. I had no idea, because this is what I always called it.
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Well. the guy on T.A. (Trip Advisor, I take it ?) is TOTALLY WRONG. The word Amphitheatre comes , obviously, from the Greek; Amphi, meaning " "on both sides" , and Theatron, meaning " place for viewing ". Let him stick that in his pipe and smoke it !! One thing that is never open to argument is the Ancient Greek language, at least not to us scholars of such things !! 8) :angel:
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Yes Gordon, he explained all that, but he gives a long explanation on why it's not an Ampitheatre. The next time he posts I will let you know..
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I think the guy on TA is correct.
The Greeks built theatres, the Romans built amphitheatres - as Gordon says, Amphi, means " "on both sides" - which technically means an oval or circular theatre like the Colosseum in Rome.
However, the word amphitheatres has evolved and is now used to describe both types.
I will now take cover!
Ian
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Hey! I only posted the photos to show how it was progressing not to start a war!
From now on I'll just refer to it as 'the area in which stone seating is being laid out in a curved shape' :'(
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Well. the guy on T.A. (Trip Advisor, I take it ?) is TOTALLY WRONG. The word Amphitheatre comes , obviously, from the Greek; Amphi, meaning " "on both sides" , and Theatron, meaning " place for viewing ". Let him stick that in his pipe and smoke it !! One thing that is never open to argument is the Ancient Greek language, at least not to us scholars of such things !! 8) :angel:
How can he be wrong when you have pretty much agreed with his definition? Disregarding the modern usage of the term amphitheatre, the Telmessos theatre is only "a place for viewing" as is it neither circular/oval nor surrounded on both sides.
JF
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Looks like the panto season is upon us already. : :)
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JohnF, how the devil can one be surrounded on BOTH sides ?? ??? Surely surrounded means totally enclosed within a circle ? If one takes a look at the Amphitheatre in Fethiye, it is blatantly obvious that it has indeed a left wing/side, a right wing/side, meeting toward the rear !!
Scorcher, " He's behind you !! " ;) 8)
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Anyway, I believe that the first full use of the new semi-circley thingammywotsit with shiny seating area , will be that long awaited fairy tale ; " Kerametin Yilmaz Bites The Dust " !! :o :o
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Oh no she isn't ! ;D
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If one takes a look at the Amphitheatre in Fethiye, it is blatantly obvious that it has indeed a left wing/side, a right wing/side, meeting toward the rear !!
So you agree its a theatre, and the guy on TA was right?
JF
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Wikipedia is relatively reliable on issues such as this - despite some sniffy dismissals from folk who want everything to be cited from the original source {no matter the paucity of corroboration of these sources}. This is what it has to say:
"Ancient Greek theatres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_of_ancient_Greece) were built in a semicircle, with tiered seating above a performance area. Ancient Roman amphitheatres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Roman_amphitheatres) were oval or circular in plan, with seating tiers that surrounded the central performance area, like a modern open-air stadium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium). Modern usage for "amphitheater" is lax, and does not always respect the ancient usage, and so the word can be found describing theatre-style (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theater_%28structure%29) stages with the audience only on one side, theatres in the round (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theatre_in_the_round), and stadiums (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadium)."
Despite the inconsistent spelling of theatre, I think this a nicely balanced view and will amend my usage in future. I always suspected that GordonA was lax. Hamlet, of course, is blameless here and not a warmonger.
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Tidy!
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Well. the guy on T.A. (Trip Advisor, I take it ?) is TOTALLY WRONG. The word Amphitheatre comes , obviously, from the Greek; Amphi, meaning " "on both sides" , and Theatron, meaning " place for viewing ". Let him stick that in his pipe and smoke it !! One thing that is never open to argument is the Ancient Greek language, at least not to us scholars of such things !! 8) :angel:
You really are rude.
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A few photos taken today from different angles
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Tragic
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I don't care what they call it but truthfully when I first saw the rebuilding of it I was horrified and consider it an appalling waste of a beautiful historic site. Yes it needed cleaning up from visitors rubbish but not this total modernisation. I feel sad and they have in my opinion ruined it .Called Progress I think.
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Yes, there appears to be virtually nothing left of the original.