Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Buying Property in Calis Beach, Fethiye and Turkey => Topic started by: Scunner on September 05, 2003, 21:50:10 PM
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Just to kickstart this forum I put together some things to think about when choosing your dream home in the sun. Just a couple of subjects for now.
These are based on the experience of buying twice, although some of these tips I learned too late, lots of emails from people who found my websites and thought I seemed to be worth asking about buying property, and from enormous amounts of reading and also obsessive checking of real estate websites.
Hopefully some will be thought provoking and others can add their handy tips:
Location
Well Calis obviously but where?
My villas are well out of the centre of Calis. We like that very much. We like eating breakfast on the veranda with the background sounds of goat bells and the occasional bee flying past.
People often email the rental site asking for somewhere nice and quiet, so I tell them I have just the place! Then they reply with "It has to be close to the bars and restaurants" Well, it normally can't be done. Do you REALLY want peace and quiet, or do you want Calis centre on your doorstep? Think hard, this isn't two weeks in the Summer you are paying for, it's most of your holidays for many years to come.
SEA VIEWS?
Of course! We all want to look out to sea from our balcony. If it's important, go for it. But Turkey is no different to anywhere else. it comes at a price. One development in Calis had two properties for sale, both on the seafront. One facing straight out to sea and one the very same facing an identical block opposite. The price difference? £40,000. Identical buildings. There are some lovely villas for £40,000!
Also be very careful. Some properties I have seen advertised are way over normal price because of a sea view. Not £40k, but into 10's of thousands more. Beautiful views over the islands and Fethiye. The only thing between you and the sea is a scruffy grassy area.
Once they build on that scruffy grassy area (and they will!) your sea view is gone forever - and the premium value of your property with it. So ask yourself: Is my sea view permanent? Some I have seen advertised are probably unlikely to have a sea view for too long the way things are going.
Real Estate Speak
Here is the Estate Agent/Scunner holiday house purchasing phrasebook.
"10 minutes walk to all the bars and restaurants"
There is a bar with a restaurant near those trees. Calis is miles away
"If you don't come out by next week it will be sold"
I hope this idiot doesn't know it's been on the website since January
"Handy for the dolmus"
You need the dolmus
"500 yards from the sea"
500 yards from somewhere with no beach
"This guy does all our maintenance"
This guy speaks only Turkish so we can double his quote and you won't be any the wiser
"That?! We'll get that fixed for a few pounds"
This will cost you £50 to fix
"Handy for the market"
People will descend upon you in their thousands once a week
"A property with extensive Turkish charm"
If I bought this I'd demolish it and start again
"Midway between Calis & Fethiye"
Absolutely hopelessly placed for either
"Prices from £50,000"
Prices from £60,000 if you want the luxury items, roof, doors etc.
OK so some maybe a bit tongue in cheek, but there's truth in all of them to some degree.
Most important thing: If it doesn't feel right, it isn't. If you read something, or are told something that doesn't seem to go down comfortably, ask others about it. Ask here at the forums. Email me. Email someone else on here who has bought. Ask someone who doesn't have a clue, but ask for a second opinion.
Scunner
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You missed a few Scunner -
With tongue in cheek apologies to Turkuaz-guide.net
"Villa with shared pool"
- be sure how many villa's are sharing it
"Just a 5 minute taxi ride into Calis"
- and the same to Fethiye at the rate some of them travel
"Open plan kitchen"
- it's all part of the living room so the washing machine can only go just where you wanted to put the TV
"With rear patio terrace"
- your front door opens directly on to the street
"With beautiful well stocked garden"
- you will spend all summer watering it just to keep the plants alive
"Conveniently situated in the centre of Calis"
- you can hear music from the surrounding hotels late into the night
and a few others but I won't bore you with them
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Have read the above and I thought the scruffy grassy area (the bit known as bird sanctuary) could not ever be built on......true?!
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If you check the government building plans and see where the building LINE runs it will tell you if your seaview is likely to be lost in the future from further properties being developed ?!
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which scuffy area of grassland do you refer to ? the piece near to the "Yellow Villas" or the other piece near to Saglik and telemessos
Ron
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Did Heidi tell you that? Don't believe a word - that scruffy bit of land is earmarked as the new multi storey car park! Shame about your sea view but a sale is a sale, well done Heidi!
No, I understand that area can't be built on.
Scunner
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Thank goodness for that saying we are in the same area as Scarey :)
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Yes I know ;)
Killed two bird sanctuaries with one stone there
Scunner
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Sorry Ron, I am unsure where the yellow villas are...I only no it as bird santuary and its the end closer to Fethiye near the start of the Calis promenade...my sense of direction is quite awful as I am sure you may have read !! I never leave the villa without my ball of wool now :D!!!
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Many thanks for the above info, it was very helpful whilst looking for property last week. I was told that the beach was 800 metres from the villa, so i asked the bloke if we could walk it - needless to say he didn't want to! He said he would drive me there - i told him i wouldn't have a car so wanted to walk - first he didn't know the way so had to get someone to help! - and it took 25 mins to get to a secluded bit of beach!!! That was just one instance trust me there were more. That was before i met Heidi and changed to another estate agents and found the property we are now buying on the complex called Palm Beach. Just to say that a lot of the things Scunner wrote above cropped in conversation!!! lol.
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Hi Scunner
As you know scuner we have a villa between Calis and Fethiye and could not think of anywhere nicer to live, so much so we are moving out there perminately within the next year. We have lovely sea views with no horrible grassy bits between us and it and unlike Calis we do not suffer from Mozzi's and the other people who have bought on the Maro sitesi feel the same.Knowone can build in front of us as we are on the sea front, nor can they build behind us as we own the land, to the righ of us a very rich politician has extensive vila's which are not for sale and that he uses for the odd weekend. we also have a dolmus stop at the end of the road and the front is now blocked to through trafic. SHEER BLISS.
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Hello everyone.im new to this site but not to Turkey.i live here and can say the grassy area mentioned cannot be built on and wont as its a bird santuary.i am also in the property business and can say the areas between Fethiye and calis are becoming popular with people who want to be away from the hussle and bustle yet only 15 minutes from either resort,which isnt that long in many peoples eyes.i do get lots of mail from people wanting property next to the sea and you are correct when you say the price reflects the location.Remember the first tremor and we can all go scuba diving together.
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Hi everyone
We bought from Golden Moon and I can say we didn't get any of that jargon. I was shown a variety of places, but it's true when they say you know when somewhere feels right. Soon as I walked in the villa at saglik I knew this was the one. Mete and staff have been very friendly and helpful. Would recommend them.
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Debbie,
We are also on Saglik and I too got that instant feeling about the place. What number are you and where is you villa in relation to the pool? We are almost opposite the pool - number 19.
Stoop
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Thank you very much Debbie & Eddy
Me and my team are always here for you
Mete
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Stoop
I know i'm a bit late but were number 89? We'll be there from 15.08.05 so hopefully you see us at the pool (you'll probably hear the kids first)
Debbie
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Debbie,
Sorry but I might not be there when you go but I know Legless and his wife, Margaret, go out on the 19th. They own the villa next door to our's.
Have a great time.
Stoop
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dont be too shure about sea views here if they can build in front of you they probably will, i thought i had a safe seaview over the harbour in the centre of fethiye, however looking at the new town plan recently i see they are planning on extending the harbour and filling in the sea for about 100mtrs and builing a coach park there, i will still have a sea view but the sea will be futher away.!! i have also seen plans in the past (with my own eyes ) of land reclemation, from a point halfway from fethiye to calis where the little fishing boat marina is to a point at the end of the fethiye end of chalis beach, this was put on hold a few years ago due to lack of funds, even the birds would loose thier sea view. so i dont think anyone can be complacent about their views here, as things do change and you have to expect the unexpected
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That seems like a good idea. Why not fill in across to the island? Land prices are so high that being able to 'make more' must be very attractive. The Dutch have done it for years on a far greater scale. Now there is no wildlife area to speak of left in Calis, there is nothing to protect. Most of the bay is a sand bank anyway, so there is not much in-filling to do.
The 'lack of funds' issue goes away as the price of land rises.
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stuart
where did you see plans
and can anyone ask to see them?
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there was a public exhibition of all the proposed future plans models etc, in front of the fethiye cultural centre a few months ago. i guess they are still available for viewing in the belidiye offices. will ask arround and find out for you...
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Stuart, I saw the plans too, it is going to be a mamouth task! it also looks like a stroll to Soyvale, I liked the idea of the cafes on the marina, but the land area that they are thinking to reclaim maybe a bit far fetched, but if they can sell it on would re-coup a majority of the cost. cant see this getting done for many years, the tunnel springs to mind, so may not even be in my lifetime...lol at least i could not see high rise building on the plans, but architects have one hell of an imagination, some plans that I have seen I think they are ardent fishing fans..how big??..lol
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Hi
Regarding all of the above, does anyone know if this "scruffy bit of grassland" you are all referring to as the "Bird Sanctuary" area of Calis is Tourist land or not? Because the apartment we have been hoping to buy is slap bang in front of this! I'm sure most of you have read my previous post because I got so many replies saying "Don't do it" We are really grateful for all the advice and I'm now doing lots of research to try to find the answers we need to either proceed with it or to bin it altogether. As you may be able to tell we have set our hearts on this place but if it's not to be then we'll have to rethink the whole thing, luckily for us and mainly thanks to you all we have not yet handed over any money. So, we would be really grateful for any more help or info you have please and to find out if this is "Tourist Land" becuase the guy I had mentioned earlier is supposed to be preparing the Tapu (in English) and sending to us signed and for us to sign and send back with our deposit. So time really is of the essence in this case! Thanks for the help. Julie xxx
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Julie
If you really want to pursue this purchase then I would get a local Solicitor in the area involved. I'm sure it would be money well spent.
lindi :)
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Some parts i think are tourist land but dont know where the divide is, scunner will be the expert on this.
A tapu is the title deed to the property, you cant get this untill the project is finished and you have the army registration, also there is a backlog of tapu's owing to changes in the law yet to be finalised and they DONT come in English.
Have you seen the project plans, land deeds etc, if you really want to go ahead with this then come back and get a good lawyer on the case and get proper contracts with a notary stamp, a contract in English means nothing over here. Personally i would forget it and go to a reputable agent, there are lots of great houses available here at a lot less risk.
You have been given some very good advice on this forum, take heed.
Good Luck
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You don't sign a Tapu...
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jules did you read scunners post about tapus none are in english they are all in turkish and with the buyers and sellers photo on it and not signed by both of you
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Hi Jules,
the only signature to appear on a Tapu is that of the Tapu officer, no one elses
Pete
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Perhaps he is sending the big book over complete with witness's:D:D
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We have our tapu, it is legal, there are no photos on it at all and it is all in Turkish, and we definately never signed our tapu.
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You don't sign a Tapu.
Neither does the Tapu have both the buyers & the sellers photos on it. If it does then worry!
I thought the bird sanctuary went down to the sea & all of this was protected land?
Scunner - looks like your expertise is needed.
Linda
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We have 3 tapus for our 3 properties. They are all legal but one doesn't have a photo on it. It's still legal though.
None of our tapus have the sellers photo on them. If it has a photo of someone other than youself on it - I'd bet that that means you aren't the sole buyer & you don't own the property 100%
Linda
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Thank you all for your help and good advice. I've spoken to Scunner now and he's pointed me in the right direction, straight 2 a Turkish Solicitor I hope! It's been a big learning curve but I think i'm getting there now thanks to all your help. I'll keep you all posted on what happens next.....and the drinks are on me should we ever get to meet in Turkey. take care Julie xx
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i have my tapu here in front of me which i collected myself on the 21st march 2005 from the offices in fethiye and it is white with a picture of the emblem of the turkish flag in the middle and a red design border round the edge, in the right hand corner is my picture and then it has a stamp over the picture.i was told this is to prove you are the owner and no one else can take or copy your tapu and pretend they are you (unless you had a twin)the seller and i both had our photos on the agreement that he was selling to me and that i was the buyer and we both signed that one and it was kept in the records office in fethiye,with i think a copy of the tapu also.maybe this is something new they have started to do this year
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I think that Cenk mentioned that its up to you if you want a photo on your tapu, but it has to go to the deeds office at the time its registered with them. As a lot of us are back in the UK at this point perhaps thats why some have photos and some not, it doesn't affect the legallity of your tapu.
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Originally posted by Jules1
Thank you all for your help and good advice. I've spoken to Scunner now and he's pointed me in the right direction, straight 2 a Turkish Solicitor I hope! It's been a big learning curve but I think i'm getting there now thanks to all your help. I'll keep you all posted on what happens next.....and the drinks are on me should we ever get to meet in Turkey. take care Julie xx
Julie,
I think a great number of us will breath a sigh of relief for you at this news & we know you'll sleep a lot better at night now.
You had us all extremely worried.
I hope that all our fears will be unfounded & that things will go through without a hitch.
Even if you decide eventually that the property & plot you desired is not the right one for you don't let it put you off purchasing your dream.
We all love our place in the sun, thankfully many of us found this site before we bought & benefited from Scunners help. You can & should trust this man - he's helped many of us.
Good luck & hope you get your dream - without hitches!
Linda
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Julie, I can only echo what Linda says and wish you luck in whatever you finally decide to buy. We love our place in Calis, the big problem is not being able to visit it as often as we'd like! Please let us all know how you go on and when you have bought your place in the sun!
Val
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Hi all,
I think I had my wires crossed earlier with regard to Tapu and contract being new to all this. From what Scunner has told me and from your replies on here, i've gathered the following, I'm sure you will correct me if I am wrong:
The contract he is sending me is to confirm my intention to buy and the vendor's intention to sell at the proposed price. (not the Tapu as I had previously stated) I think he is translating a common Tapu to allow me to see what it says!! The contract hopefully will contain the following (some of which I have now asked for, thanks to Scunners and your advice)
The following is the e-mail which I have sent to them today and hopefully I have asked for all the relevant things to be in the contract. If I have missed anything you think may be relevant or if I'm totally on the wrong track, I'd be grateful if you could let me know:-
I would like there to be a penalty clause in the contract to make sure that I am compensated if the build time runs over that promised Also confirmation of expected completion date. I understand this is common practise when buying a property off-plan.
I need a specification of the property within the contract, including all materials used in construction, fittings to be used etc and a detailed plan of the property along with the total amount of the property.
I will also need to check that there is a proper schedule of payments within the contract, relevant to the stages of the build process. I believe a typical schedule of payments would be to pay at stages such as:
1) Initial deposit of £10,000 after the relevant legal checks have been made by solicitor (hopefully within 1 week from today)
2) completion of the concrete structure.
3) completion of internal and external works (after choosing, tiles, kitchen and bathroom fittings)
4) completion of the garden, pool and landscaping
5) with a final payment due when the keys are handed over and the property has been passed by the state building inspector and inspected by myself.
I also need to ascertain who is responsible for paying the property tax, I believe that this 3% tax is divided equally between the builder and myself, I need to make sure this is stated in the contract also.
I believe my solicitor has to perform the some checks which usually take about 3-4 days before I enter into the contract. I have e-mailed 3 potential solicitors in Turkey and hope to have a solicitor sorted out by Monday 7th Nov. I will let you know their name and details as soon as I have them.
I will also sort out a fair amount to pay for your fee's for helping with the transaction and we can put that into the contract if that is acceptable to you also.
With regard to the schedule of payments I've been led to believe that the bulk of the money paid by me should come at the end of building once I have inspected the property??? Did everyone else do it this way?
Thanks for all your help, I'll keep you posted once I've had word from the solicitors.
take care
Julie :o)))
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Hi - I heard in Calis last week that if you see a property with an estate agent you dont know, you can buy that property through another agent you trust, is this true?
Many thanks
Kate
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In most cases.Yes.
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Thank you
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katespot, yes you can, usually house owner goes to a few agent at once, cause then his house is sold quicker, so just come to the agency you trust or that was recommended by your friends and say: i liked a house, its there and there and be sure agent will find the owner very soon cause in small places like calis and such places where i stay- akyaka( it is really small- if i am not mistaken only 2000 populatin) people know everybody, why is good and bad, who cheats who and who not, just as Scunner said, before buying a house please and please talk to house owners .
Thanks to forums like this one you can get some advices before buying. As for my family: let me share a little: we bought our house about 1 year ago in Akyaka. At that time I didnt know anything about forums and I had no friends at all who could give me any information about Akyaka. We were offered some houses in Marmaris but I didnt like beaches over there, and life in Marmaris semms to be more for young people than for us. We where looking for a small calm apartment ( villa is the best i think but then yit takes too much time and effort to look after it or you should trust to an unknown person to give him or her your keys and also pay money- and you even dont know if it worths it). I fell in love with Akyaka, so small and calm and cosy, so we had to trust to the first agency we saw in Akyaka center :)))we were pretty scared of being cheated. Guys showed us some dublex houses and some apartments. the one we chose was with open planned kitchen- not everybody like them but there was enough place for washing mashine :))))
we were doubting also if our sea view disappears after some new building in front of our house. Agency told us that in Akyaka only 3 floors allowed for building and as all the houses ar eon the mountain it is logically that the building in front of you will always be lower than your balcony. agency turned to be absolutely right. After new building was build in from of our house, its roof stayed under our balcony so nothing happened to our sea view. We had no problems with tapu, habitation sertificate, and now they still help us with house matters. If i am asked for recommendations I will always recommend them. Yeah I forgot to say, again and again, go to a trustable agency, they will always find a suitable house for you. I met an old man in Akyaka, if i am not mistaken he has bought his house lot and lots of years ago and he has no tapu yet! the house still belongs to the seller! Actually that man doesnt mind it i think cause he does nothing to get this tapu, but i think its not ok...nevermind...its up to him
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We are looking to buy an apartment in Calis...Can anyone reccomend an area which is close to ammenities and coast but is like wise not on top of it all? Can you reccomend a good estate agents?
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Hiya
Welcome to CB.
Can you go to the members intro section and let us know a little about you please. We're a nosely old lot here lol
As for recommendations, you'll find loads if you use the search facility. There's lots of info on estate agents, sticking to your budget, the pros and cons of buying in Turkey and the general Calis area.
Good luck and happy house hunting :)
Anne
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Hi Jules, you may find the Turkish Embassy Website's 'Buying Guide' very useful, it's recently been updated and is far more comprehensive than before. (www.turkisheconomy.org.uk) PS Please read & take Very Seriously their Disclaimer regarding any of the body's you identify through the site, it is in NO WAY a guarantee that the person you are contacting, is reputable, honest etc, etc.
Good Luck :)
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A good website,Thank you.
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One of best bits of advice if you want to buy a property in Turkey to live: come out and rent a place for 3 months or more. Get to know the areas and look around. Also get a good feel of whether you really want to move here. Then buy - and negotiate hard - remember there is more building than buying going on at the moment.
Another alternative that more and more brits are doing - is dont buy at all - but rent. My neighbours have just come over and are renting a lovely 5 bed villa for about £400 a month. No mortgage and all their £000,000s of capital in the bank earning them money. A house / apartment prices have barely moved in the last 12 months this is a very credible alternative to buying.
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my husband has retired i retire next year we are thinking of living in calis don t know whether to buy or rent what is the average price of renting in calis we only want something like a two bedroomed place
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You can find a 2 bed , full furnished apartment in a good location around 500-600 YTL per month (For a long term rental)
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thanks for info cenk will be incalis in august we will have to get more info then.at the moment i would nt have a clue how to start the ball rolling i would like to talk to expats on how they compare their lives in calis to their lives in uk.
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Can you compare cream and crap[?]:D
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that has definitly made my mind up i m coming to live in calis next year
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Anyone who can imply that comparing Calis to the UK is like comparing 'cream to crap'- either has a low regard for Calis; or lived in a very undesirable area in the UK.
And anyone who can decide to relocate to Calis, on account of a stanger's post on a website, needs to get guidence of a different nature.
Strawberry
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my reply was sent tongue in cheek
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quote:
Originally posted by Scunner
Just to kickstart this forum I put together some things to think about when choosing your dream home in the sun. Just a couple of subjects for now.
These are based on the experience of buying twice, although some of these tips I learned too late, lots of emails from people who found my websites and thought I seemed to be worth asking about buying property, and from enormous amounts of reading and also obsessive checking of real estate websites.
Hopefully some will be thought provoking and others can add their handy tips:
Location
Well Calis obviously but where?
My villas are well out of the centre of Calis. We like that very much. We like eating breakfast on the veranda with the background sounds of goat bells and the occasional bee flying past.
People often email the rental site asking for somewhere nice and quiet, so I tell them I have just the place! Then they reply with "It has to be close to the bars and restaurants" Well, it can't be done. Do you REALLY want peace and quiet, or do you want Calis centre on your doorstep? Think hard, this isn't two weeks in the Summer you are paying for, it's most of your holidays for many years to come.
SEA VIEWS?
Of course! We all want to look out to sea from our balcony. If it's important, go for it. But Turkey is no different to anywhere else. it comes at a price. One development in Calis had two properties for sale, both on the seafront. One facing straight out to sea and one the very same facing an identical block opposite. The price difference? £40,000. Identical buildings. There are some lovely villas for £40,000!
Also be very careful. Some properties I have seen advertised are way over normal price because of a sea view. Not £40k, but into 10's of thousands more. Beautiful views over the islands and Fethiye. The only thing between you and the sea is a scruffy grassy area.
Once they build on that scruffy grassy area (and they will!) your sea view is gone forever - and the premium value of your property with it. So ask yourself: Is my sea view permanent? Some I have seen advertised are probably unlikely to have a sea view for too long the way things are going.
Real Estate Speak
Here is the Estate Agent/Scunner holiday house purchasing phrasebook.
"10 minutes walk to all the bars and restaurants"
There is a bar with a restaurant near those trees. Calis is miles away
"If you don't come out by next week it will be sold"
I hope this idiot doesn't know it's been on the website since January
"Handy for the dolmus"
You need the dolmus
"500 yards from the sea"
500 yards from somewhere with no beach
"This guy does all our maintenance"
This guy speaks only Turkish so we can double his quote and you won't be any the wiser
"That?! We'll get that fixed for a few pounds"
This will cost you £50 to fix
"Handy for the market"
People will descend upon you in their thousands once a week
"A property with extensive Turkish charm"
If I bought this I'd demolish it and start again
"Midway between Calis & Fethiye"
Absolutely hopelessly placed for either
"Prices from £50,000"
Prices from £60,000 if you want the luxury items, roof, doors etc.
OK so some maybe a bit tongue in cheek, but there's truth in all of them to some degree.
Most important thing: If it doesn't feel right, it isn't. If you read something, or are told something that doesn't seem to go down comfortably, ask others about it. Ask here at the forums. Email me. Email someone else on here who has bought. Ask someone who doesn't have a clue, but ask for a second opinion.
Scunner
Nice script Scunner. But where do we write about rude, intimidating, outrageously lying, and in builders pockets, estate agents. Like the one in Calis. Forget it's name - Taurus, porous, something like that.
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Originally posted by my way
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Originally posted by Scunner
Just to kickstart this forum I put together some things to think about when choosing your dream home in the sun. Just a couple of subjects for now.
These are based on the experience of buying twice, although some of these tips I learned too late, lots of emails from people who found my websites and thought I seemed to be worth asking about buying property, and from enormous amounts of reading and also obsessive checking of real estate websites.
Hopefully some will be thought provoking and others can add their handy tips:
Location
Well Calis obviously but where?
My villas are well out of the centre of Calis. We like that very much. We like eating breakfast on the veranda with the background sounds of goat bells and the occasional bee flying past.
People often email the rental site asking for somewhere nice and quiet, so I tell them I have just the place! Then they reply with "It has to be close to the bars and restaurants" Well, it can't be done. Do you REALLY want peace and quiet, or do you want Calis centre on your doorstep? Think hard, this isn't two weeks in the Summer you are paying for, it's most of your holidays for many years to come.
SEA VIEWS?
Of course! We all want to look out to sea from our balcony. If it's important, go for it. But Turkey is no different to anywhere else. it comes at a price. One development in Calis had two properties for sale, both on the seafront. One facing straight out to sea and one the very same facing an identical block opposite. The price difference? £40,000. Identical buildings. There are some lovely villas for £40,000!
Also be very careful. Some properties I have seen advertised are way over normal price because of a sea view. Not £40k, but into 10's of thousands more. Beautiful views over the islands and Fethiye. The only thing between you and the sea is a scruffy grassy area.
Once they build on that scruffy grassy area (and they will!) your sea view is gone forever - and the premium value of your property with it. So ask yourself: Is my sea view permanent? Some I have seen advertised are probably unlikely to have a sea view for too long the way things are going.
Real Estate Speak
Here is the Estate Agent/Scunner holiday house purchasing phrasebook.
"10 minutes walk to all the bars and restaurants"
There is a bar with a restaurant near those trees. Calis is miles away
"If you don't come out by next week it will be sold"
I hope this idiot doesn't know it's been on the website since January
"Handy for the dolmus"
You need the dolmus
"500 yards from the sea"
500 yards from somewhere with no beach
"This guy does all our maintenance"
This guy speaks only Turkish so we can double his quote and you won't be any the wiser
"That?! We'll get that fixed for a few pounds"
This will cost you £50 to fix
"Handy for the market"
People will descend upon you in their thousands once a week
"A property with extensive Turkish charm"
If I bought this I'd demolish it and start again
"Midway between Calis & Fethiye"
Absolutely hopelessly placed for either
"Prices from £50,000"
Prices from £60,000 if you want the luxury items, roof, doors etc.
OK so some maybe a bit tongue in cheek, but there's truth in all of them to some degree.
Most important thing: If it doesn't feel right, it isn't. If you read something, or are told something that doesn't seem to go down comfortably, ask others about it. Ask here at the forums. Email me. Email someone else on here who has bought. Ask someone who doesn't have a clue, but ask for a second opinion.
Scunner
Nice script Scunner. But where do we write about rude, intimidating, outrageously lying, and in builders pockets, estate agents. Like the one in Calis. Forget it's name - Taunus, porous, something like that.
The one i like best 'uninterupted views' - I wonder if my alledged estate agent remembers that one.
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My way perhaps your estate agent and the estate agent??!! who sold me my property could get together they sound like the dream team.
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Hi there all new member here. Just returned from Calis and really loved the place and am considering buying there. I have read all sorts of stories from different scources can anyone give me an answer to the following question
Can foreign nationals currently buy property in Turkey?
We have been told by Nicholas Homes that we can but we have read on the Turkish embassy site that all sales are suspended until further notice.
We viewed several properties and really liked the Archways development, does anyone know anything about this complex?
I have been told that Mr Scunner is the man to talk to as he will give me honest advice about buying, which would be gratefully appreciated.
Hope to hear from a few of you soon.
Thanks for your time
David Adams
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David, go back to the section "Property in Calis Beach and Turkey" and then look under "Risk Free Property Purchase in Turkey" (or something like that :-\ )
Lots of really good information from Mr Scunner's new company, and, no, he doesn't pay me commission - YET! (Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease, Keith? lol :D )
Good luck with your search, David. We put a deposit down spur of the moment on the last day of our hols last August, and came home wondering what the heck we had done!!! :o It all went like a dream, we were back in October to collect the keys and furnish our beautiful new apartment, and then picked up the tapu in March, though it had been at the agents office since January. :)
You'll know what you want to buy as soon as you see it! 8)
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Would also recommend you use Keith, and agree with Julesbob0303. We bought 5 years ago after our first visit to Calis. We where there two days and looked at property on the 3rd day and bought the property we loved the next day... We are so glad we did, life is to short to procrastinate. We love Calis and love our house. We unfortunately, did not know Keith then, but would not hesitate to use him if we decide we want a bigger place when we retire.
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June 2008[?] i would hope they have made their mind up by know Jacqui:D or perhaps they are still haggling:D:D
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Originally posted by Jacqui Harvey
Would also recommend you use Keith, and agree with Julesbob0303.
This is very kind Jacqui and Jules - can I for once add that I am Keith :D
I don't advertise or hunt for business within the forums of CBF but if you'll allow me just to confirm this - I am the only agency referred to by my christian name when recommended ;) so please can I embellish that on this occasion with my website details - Assured Estate is www.assuredestate.com and there are two property listings here on the Calis Beach site -
www.calis-beach.co.uk/cbestate.htm
and the "For Sale By Owner" section at www.calis-beach.co.uk/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=193
One of my British neighbours in Turkey knew me as Keith and knew Scunner from reading CBF, and told me after 2 years he finally twigged that Keith and Scunner were the same person :D
So that's me, thanks.
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I have tried to get a contact number for the peron selling apatments on this website for two weeks now, Does anyone have one as intersted in buying apartment for my mother.
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I don't recall seeing any request for my number. Please contact me at admin @ Calis-beach.co.Uk and I'll contact you on Monday. Thanks!