Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Health & Healthcare => Topic started by: hamilton on March 24, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
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We have not joined SGK, but have always 'paid as we go' for treatment at the Esnaf when required, the charges used to be reasonable. We have noticed recently that there has been a substantial increase in the charges. For instance recently I went for treatment for an ingrown toenail, the consultant explained that part of the nail required removing, and the procedure would take approx 10 minutes. One of the reception clerks informed me that the cost would be 1,6000 ytl, astounded, I said that I would think about it. On the way out the clerk caught up with me and said that they could do the op for 1,000 ytl, again I repeated that I would think about it. The consultation cost 65 ytl and I had a 2 hour wait for it.
I went straight to 'Kanguru Chiropody and Beauty Centre', I was seen straight away. Jacqui a qualified chiropodist removed part of the problem ingrown toenal and the charge was 50ytl.
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WOW bargain there then, obviously yabanci pound signs spinning at the esnaf!!
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Disgraceful - the "running after you" is the worst part of this story - sounds like the market seller with a genuine leather bag - sadly though in line with my own thoughts about the Esnaf of today - new building - relationships with other "preferred" hospitals - and someone has to pay for the new building!
I wonder who the easiest targets are?
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Not knowing Calis very well, could someone tell me where this Esnaf hospital is please so that, should I need anything, I can avoid it and look elsewhere.
I was just thinking the same thing, it sounds like a market trader running after you to knock the price down rather than the professional service of a Doctor! I'm assuming that the Hippocratic Oath is a worldwide requirement.....I don't know!
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Well it probably isn't Worldwide but it doesn't mention how much you can get away with charging ;)
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Yes, I understand that but you wouldn't expect it from a Doctor would you. I know I'm green about all things Turkey but that's bad. Is it that big hospital?
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It's not that big one (guessing you mean the one just on the way out of Calis) - it's just up a side road off the sea road into Fethiye (where the 'new' prom is).
Sadly business is business in Turkey and private hospitals generally come into that.
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Yes, I know where you mean now, thank you. I'm just not going to get poorly!! :)
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I have just had cataract op at the Esnaf fantastic service, to be fair to the doctors when I asked about the price of laser or cataract surgery he did not have a clue, he asked his secretary to find out, so i don't think the doctor would have been running after the patient.
Mark
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Not knowing Calis very well, could someone tell me where this Esnaf hospital is please so that, should I need anything, I can avoid it and look elsewhere.
It is in Fethiye.
Go along kordon to Bogazici restaurant.
It is across the road.
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Yes, thanks amca. I know where it is now. I have to have an injection every 3 weeks for Biermers disease (my body can't make new blood) and when I've been in Calis before I've used that tiny private clinic right in the centre of Calis. I take my injections with me and they charge me 10 Lira to give me them. I thing that's really good though I don't like paying for the pain! :)
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It wasn't the consultant that ran after me, I am not sure if he is aware of the rates charged. As I said in my post it was a clerk. I presume that they have a matrix for various procedures. But 1,600 ytl is rather a lot for 10 minutes work.
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I know that the charges at the Esnaf vary. If you have an ikamet then they charge half the price, the foreign desk explained that to me last time I went there. I have private insurance in Holland and they cover the expenses, if you live here full time then you would be part of the SGK or the other insurer in Turkey and then you pay a surcharge for the "private" care. I hear good stories about the Devlet as well and that would be well cheaper but I have never been there myself. The Esnaf was well good a while back but lately they have gone downhill. My wifes appointment was cancelled twice without them taking any trouble to call so we went there just to hear that the doctor wasn't there but I had the impression that they had no clue about the appointment.
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Are we talking about the one next to the courthouse or the private one. We got good service in the one next to the courthouse. After showing residence and logging in with passport it was only around 15 tl for each service.
PS they appreciate it if you have small change.
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I had 2 ingrown toenails treated at Esnaf about 8 years ago.Firstly they didnt wait for the Anaesthetic to work before cutting into my toe so it was extremely painful to say the least.Secondly they should have put some chemical on the nail bed to stop it from growing again,i cant remember what its called,so therefore the nails grew back just the same as before,ingrown.Then i had them both done in England,properly.Years later i had another one on a different toe and had the treatment at Kangaroo,Jackie was brilliant.My advice dont have the ingrown toenails treated at the Esnaf,pay through the nose and then have to have them done again somewhere else.
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The ESNAF is a private hospital, in other words a private company set up to provide a service and charge for this service to make a profit. If you don't like the service or price then use a competitor such as the State hospital, Devlet, or Letoon hospital, as you would any other business.
If you have SGK or Bakhur insurance this will cover part of the cost only.
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Just booked for a mammogram on SGK at The Esnaf... 35TL to see the surgeon and 15TL for the X ray...and I dont have to wait 3 years for an appointment...
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Wow Anne that is good value - will make sure Gill goes as one is due
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that is a fab price Anne, someone I know had to have an mammogram whilst in Turkey think it was at the Devlet and when she came back to Uk and as referred to the breast clinic they were very impressed with the images, apparantly in Turkey they are done in digital and we are not at that stage with our mammograms here in the UK....
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Can anyone help please? Today I had a consultation with Dr Mahmut who does plastic, aesthetic and reconstructive surgery at the Esnaf Hospital. I wanted to discuss and obtain prices to have 2 small moles removed from my face. We are regular visitors to Fethiye but no longer property owners and don't have SGK or other Turkish health insurance. I always knew that this simple procedure would have to be paid for personally and would not be covered by my UK health or travel insurance, but I was shocked at the prices quoted. 115 TL for the initial consultation (all of 10 mins) then 580 TL for each mole removal with another 80 TL for lab analysis on each mole, is on a par with UK private clinics. Haven't decided to proceed yet - has anybody on the CBF had a similar experience or can suggest an alternative provider, eg does the Letoon or Devlet offer this kind of service. Thank you in advance for any help - this is an amazing Forum for information!
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The Devlet can do these types of service. I had a mole removed from my face a year ago. Total cost including analysis and removal was less than 100 Lira.
WW
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Thank you WW for your prompt reply. A few other questions: did you pay for an intitial consultation as well; did they speak good English and what is the procedure - do you just walk in?; was it straightforward and painless with just a local anaesthetic? and most importantly, were you happy with the end result - no or minimal scarring? In my ignorance, which is the Devlet Hospital - is it the one on the main Calis road just past the Court? Any advice gratefully received. KM
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The price included the initial consultation. The doctor spoke very good English. He is a young guy but clearly knows his job. You need to go to the Devlet ( yes its the one on the Calis road) and go to the section where they have translators. You tell them what you want and they will , first of all take you to the cash desk to pay initial fee which is about 16 Lira. You will then be taken to the doctor in the relevant section. ie dermatoligist/cosmetic/plastic surgeon section. After a consultation he will make a date for the operation. Normally within a couple of days. When you attend for the op you will be taken to the first floor and guided past the operating theaters to a private cubicle. The local anaesthetic is administered by the doctor and he is assisted by a nurse.It was all over quickly and totally painless. The biopsy result took a week. You go back to the doctor for the result at no additional fee.
WW
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Sorry forgot to add that I am very happy with the result. No scarring.
WW
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WW thank you so much for this amazing information - I will try it tomorrow and let you know how I get on. KM
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I would be interested also please KM to hear how you get on as I have a mole on my face that I hate...good luck if you decide to go for it :)
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Has anyone ever had an injection brought from UK and administered in Fethiye? My friend has 3 monthly injections and one falls within the visit. It must be done in the time span. Any advice anyone?
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The Esnaf has a department within its A&E especially for giving injections, it cost Chris 1.5 lira a few weeks ago. I've also seen the pharmacist opposite Migros in the town centre giving injections.
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Oh thank you George, we know the chemist quite well, he gives great advice. Well done with the implant too. I'm back to get the rest if mine done soon!
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Sorry, finished before I meant to! Not implants for me just lower bridge etc.
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Over the last year or so the Esnaf hospital has dramatically changed and gone though a change of ownership.it is owned by the wife of the Turkish prime minister and since then prices have jumped .
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Use Letoon, good service, and loads cheaper...