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General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: Highlander on September 07, 2013, 22:45:45 PM

Title: How much longer
Post by: Highlander on September 07, 2013, 22:45:45 PM
It's nine weeks in since that bold, some may say foolhardy statement.

So just how long should we continued to fund Detective Chief Inspector Andrew Redwood and his team of twenty-eight detectives and seven other staff to sun themselves in the Algarve.

Having lit the blue touch paper I am off to the bunker but will doubtless re-emerge to rant.
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Highlander on September 07, 2013, 22:52:59 PM
Aplogies - I should have added a photo showing a statement from the Met reported on 04 July saying that there would be arrests within weeks.

I can't add the image - aggggghhhhhhhhh :(
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Highlander on September 07, 2013, 23:12:27 PM
Sorted !


(http://s10.postimg.org/iaaffde0l/mccann.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/iaaffde0l/)
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: JohnF on September 07, 2013, 23:50:27 PM
If the source for your point is the Daily Mail then we may as well close the thread now.  Do you really believe them to be simply "sunning" themselves in the Algarve?

JF
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Steve (redding43) on September 08, 2013, 08:52:14 AM
If the source for your point is the Daily Mail then we may as well close the thread now.  Do you really believe them to be simply "sunning" themselves in the Algarve?

JF

I was just about to say the same thing.......I wouldn't believe a word of any of it
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: johntaylor49 on September 08, 2013, 10:24:14 AM
Politicians and Journalists all work on the principle of sensation at all costs whilst
claiming maximum expenses.

 "Never mind the truths -- ! want "the story behind the story" and if there
isn't one I will make it up!" or "this is all the fault of the previous Government" in the case of the
Politician.

However, if there is the slightest chance of rescuing that little girl and reuniting her with her parents
or proving she is dead so they can at least know, it should be pursued, and, if they really believe they have evidence then they must not give up on that.

May I suggest you prepare for an attack Highlander, ensure your gas cape is handy!  :)
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: scorcher on September 08, 2013, 10:38:43 AM
My what a skewed view you have of the world. Your sermons must have been very entertaining. I'm wondering what or who you believe in now ?
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Scunner on September 08, 2013, 10:41:27 AM
Surely the police can't win - damned if they don't go and damned when they do??
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: GordonA on September 08, 2013, 13:49:22 PM
If they really are still in Portugal after 9 weeks, surely that should mean that some new development has come to light , which is keeping them there? If so, more power to them, I would say.

On an aside from this, I would venture to say that the recent unashamed revelation by the "top cop" of Greater Manchester police , that only 40% of crimes reported by the public are ever acted upon in his bailiwick, is more in need of investigation than police officers in Portugal !!
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Highlander on September 08, 2013, 21:44:12 PM
JohnF - the source of my point was not exclusively the Daily Mail - it was just the easiest to screen shot - the report was carried in other newspapers.

The point is that the new review began in May 2011 and the police have recently stated that arrests will be made within weeks. But as yet nothing has happened for nine weeks.

If the Met are unable to come up with concrete results soon then I would suggest that it would be appropriate for Operation Grange to be dramatically scaled bac.k
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: johntaylor49 on September 09, 2013, 10:52:13 AM
If they really are still in Portugal after 9 weeks, surely that should mean that some new development has come to light , which is keeping them there? If so, more power to them, I would say.

On an aside from this, I would venture to say that the recent unashamed revelation by the "top cop" of Greater Manchester police , that only 40% of crimes reported by the public are ever acted upon in his bailiwick, is more in need of investigation than police officers in Portugal !!

Reminds me of the story about the elderly lady who called to report she had seen torchlight in her Garage at then bottom of the garden and thought there was a burglar, she was politely told that the Police were sorry but they had nobody available and would attend to it as soon as possible meantime stay locked indoors. After an hour she called again to say someone was still there to be told again that nobody was available. Thirty min utes later sje called the police to say she couldn't wait any longer but they didn't need to bother as she had indeed found a burglar but she had shot him. within 15 minutes armed police were on the scene with a helicopter hovering overhead. Sure enough a man ran out of the garage and was apprehended. The furious officers said to the lady "I thought you said you had shot him!?" to which she replied "I thought you said you had nobody available?"  :)
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: mercury on September 09, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
brilliant..
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: echogirl1 on September 26, 2013, 20:36:17 PM
I personally feel that Maddy is dead, whoever is responsible will never be found, and my heart goes out to her devastated parents, I feel the time has come to move on, because they have two other children who need their love and attention. Sending police officers out to Portugal after all this time is a waste of time and money.  p.s. I would love to be proved wrong
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: johntaylor49 on September 27, 2013, 11:01:33 AM
Well, any Policeman will tell you most children abducted are killed within 48 hours, so, yes, the chance of her being found alive are every remote, and sadly, it is common for Parents to be convinced they would know if their child was dead, but it is rarely the case.

Concentrate on their family yes but never forget her of course.

I guess they are carrying out this investigation in the hope of catching the people who took her and preventing others from being taken, but there comes a time to judge the cost against the likelihood of Success, and have we reached that point?

Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Menthol on September 28, 2013, 13:41:42 PM
And how much do we consider a small child to be worth?

My children are all strapping 20+ year olds. They are, however, priceless.
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: johntaylor49 on September 29, 2013, 18:47:18 PM
Every child is precious, every human life is precious, but, if we have arrived at a point where the likelihood of finding the people who abducted this poor child or of preventing those same people doing it again is very slight or not even felt to be possible, perhaps we could take that resource and better employ it to apprehend other felons or prevent other crimes?

Policing is like Military Intelligence, the costs are massive for small results, just the way it is.

JT
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Scunner on September 29, 2013, 23:22:39 PM
if we have arrived at a point where the likelihood of finding the people who abducted this poor child or of preventing those same people doing it again is very slight or not even felt to be possible, perhaps we could take that resource and better employ it to apprehend other felons or prevent other crimes?


I wonder if you would say that if the missing child was your own.
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: johntaylor49 on September 30, 2013, 11:13:32 AM
Possibly not, losing a child is a terrible experience, and every year I feel very sad when my wife lights the Annual candle on young John's Birthday, he would have been 37 this year. You never forget, but you move on because you must.
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: loiner on October 01, 2013, 21:18:46 PM
Priceless scunner. Every child is priceless unreplaceable
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: Highlander on March 22, 2015, 20:05:27 PM
Nearly four years in, is it not time to scale back from 1 Detective Chief Inspector, 28 Detectives and 7 other staff working on this case.
Title: Re: How much longer
Post by: KKOB on March 22, 2015, 20:27:50 PM
Yeah, then they could be sent to Turkey to sit on the Border with Syria to stop the idiots trying to join ISIS.

Oh no ! Hang on ! There aren't any swimming pools, gyms, bars or golf courses there !