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General Topics => Football => Topic started by: Highlander on November 09, 2017, 18:08:10 PM

Title: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2017, 18:08:10 PM
All the very best of luck to Northern Ireland tonight in their Qualifier against Switzerland.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2017, 18:42:22 PM
I so hope they make it
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2017, 21:38:32 PM
Can there be anything worse than losing to a extremely dubious refereeing decision >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2017, 22:12:09 PM
Absolutely ridiculous decision. A penalty given because a player couldn’t disappear within a split second
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2017, 22:55:33 PM
Agreed.

At least Michael O'Neill doesn't have to worry about tactics on Sunday - just go all out and beat them 2 - 0.

(Assuming away goals counting double doesn't apply)
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 09, 2017, 23:11:51 PM
If they beat them 2-0 away goals doesn’t apply
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 09, 2017, 23:19:45 PM
Remind me - what are the rules regarding bad language and insulting other members   :)  ;)  :)
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Post by: kevin3 on November 09, 2017, 23:40:20 PM


    Disgusting refereeing, he should be demoted to Sunday non League games.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: yabanci on November 10, 2017, 05:34:33 AM
Absolutely ridiculous decision. A penalty given because a player couldn’t disappear within a split second

Also the yellow card given to Corry Evans for the penalty sees him miss the return leg in Switzerland.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 10, 2017, 08:07:17 AM
They were robbed, so they were.
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Post by: stoop on November 11, 2017, 00:45:15 AM
https://twitter.com/walm0t33/status/928746051934318593
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2017, 19:11:52 PM
The very brave effort to no avail - tough luck guys  :(
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 12, 2017, 20:44:18 PM
Big hearted performance. Only beaten by the worst refereeing decision in international football history then.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2017, 20:50:19 PM
I have never understood why the England team never seem to put in that type of big hearted performance.

Can it really be that they are all over paid prima donnas who don't understand what it means to play for one's country. Surely not :(
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Stuart T on November 12, 2017, 21:47:16 PM
Not all prima donnas but certainly some of them.

However, when a club pays 50 to 100 million pounds for a player who earns millions each year can they really risk injury playing in a national side?

Just because they are "qualified" (in terms of both birthright and ability) to play for a national team does not mean they have any national pride.

Certainly, the club managers (in the premier league there are few if any Englishmen involved) have no interest in seeing their prize players risking injury.

When chosen to play for "their" country it is a sign that they are good enough to play at that level - no national pride required.

Anyone producing a half - hearted performance on a rugby pitch would soon be feeling genuine injury rather than rolling half the length of the pitch with the equivalent of a paper cut.

Money, in short, has changed the game.

I used to enjoy going to matches played at the highest level (at afordable prices) - now, I wouldn't go to one if I could get in free.

Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 12, 2017, 22:00:42 PM
The main reason cited for the failure of successive England teams is the huge pressure of expectation that the World Cup puts on them.

I have no idea why, I have expected f*** all from them for around 27 years now.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2017, 22:46:12 PM

Just because they are "qualified" (in terms of both birthright and ability) to play for a national team does not mean they have any national pride.


That's what I don't understand - your average fan would give his right arm to play for his country.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Scunner on November 12, 2017, 22:54:11 PM
Your average fan doesn't have several million in the bank
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Highlander on November 12, 2017, 23:18:33 PM
The point I was trying to make, unsuccessfully apparently, was that even if the average fan HAD millions in the bank he would still give his right arm to play for his country
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Post by: Scunner on November 12, 2017, 23:28:02 PM
I think you made the point successfully, just you were wrong :D

I think money is enough to remove any requirement to do it for your country.
Title: Re: Northern Ireland
Post by: Stuart T on November 12, 2017, 23:29:18 PM
I think Highlander is quite right in that regard - I don't believe that money is the sole reason for the lack of passion and pride.

Your average fan, I think, has a greater love, pride, passion etc. for his country than many of the premier league players chosen to represent England - regardless of personal wealth.

I did, however, enjoy the pride and passion England ladies showed during their games. They were kicked harder and longer than their male counterparts and I saw no rolling around like they'd been shot in the leg.

The 1966 players had one key thing in common (actually more than one but that's a different tack altogether) - essentially that they were proud to represent England.

Broadening it to other sports including tennis, athletics, cricket - I wonder just how much "national pride" even enters the heads of many of them.