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Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Karennina on July 15, 2019, 08:41:16 AM

Title: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 15, 2019, 08:41:16 AM
We have recently had (and also in past) bad problems with blocked / problem toilets on our complex and long story short we have found out the complex is not connected to the main drains sewerage,  any home owners / members know how we go about finding out how many tanks/ cess pits we have on our site as we feel it’s time to get connected but are unsure of how many tanks are in grounds...
Also has anyone done this recently if so any idea of the cost please, many thanks...
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Ian on July 15, 2019, 16:39:44 PM
I think others might know more about this - but we first bought at Lemon 3 near the otogar.

We thought we were connected to the mains but then found out we weren’t (I think it was a vent pipe coming out of the ground near the front of the property that finally confirmed it).

Anyway, shortly after there was a scheme by the council to connect to the mains at a reasonable price in our area and I thought we would but a neighbour in the block assured us that a properly installed tank would not need emptying which surprised me but we never had any problems with smells and never connected to the mains or emptied it in the 7 years we were there.

If all else fails - speak with Cenk - I believe he is a qualified structural engineer - so knows more than most and I am sure he would be able to advise on the best way forward.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: mercury on July 15, 2019, 17:25:18 PM
We had a septic tank which we only realised needed emptying after an influx of cockroaches.. The belidye were encouraging everyone to get connected to mains sewage.
The Turkish families across the road were charged about 200 lira but on our block off 8 they wanted 700 lira each apartment..We also had to pay for the paths digging up and filling in seperatley by someone else..This was 8 years ago so don't know if it's all changed now.  At the time they were laying a new road up to the apartments so they were rushing us to get it done.. We didn't bother.  Also at the time the Belidiye tried to add extra on to our council.tax to put towards the new road..The Turkish weren't asked to pay so we all objected again and they knocked it off our bill
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 15, 2019, 19:56:24 PM
Thank you both so much Ian and Anne for posting both very interesting info from you both...
I think at this stage we need to get the septic tank/ cess pit pumped out and speak to someone from the water board, I seriously can’t believe the picture I have seen today of my neighbours bathroom to what they arrived to after something has backed up in their toilet not a nice sight...
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Steve A on July 15, 2019, 21:35:50 PM
We had a tank for 12 years,emptied twice ,no problems with it.We got caught out on the extra council tax for the roads and stupidly paid,our Turkish neighbors didn’t.
Again we were approached for mains drainage but refused to pay so never got it.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 16, 2019, 05:30:02 AM
Thank you Steve for info
I think we’ve decided for now we are going to find out how much it costs to get the tank emptied maybe every few years and make sure it gets done!
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Steve A on July 16, 2019, 15:44:45 PM
I can’t remember the cost of emptying and cleaning the tank but it wasn’t pricey.A few things to remember is that household cleaners and bleaches affect the bacteria within the tank thereby creating smells.If you use natural cleaning products it does not affect it .Our neighbours used to get use something for the toilets and kitchen ,can’t remember what it was,but done the job.White vinegar diluted into a spray cleans most things,neat down the loo.Bicarb and lemon juice in a paste cleans off the limescale.If you have vents in your bathroom or toilet floor pop a toilet block on top.
Boiling water down all sinks and drains regularly keeps them unblocked.
Remember if you haven’t used the villa/apt for a while ,turn your taps and showers on hot ,full power for about 15mins to prevent any nasties like legionella.
Likewise run the AC on full and regularly hoover and wash the filters.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 16, 2019, 16:05:10 PM
A couple of dead chickens thrown into the pit every 6 months or so gives the bacteria something to 'chew' on.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: TOSH TOSH on July 16, 2019, 17:13:51 PM
Thank you for the good info Steve A  8)
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 16, 2019, 19:06:33 PM
Thank u Steve really handy info. The other problem we are having is some folk are not adhering to using bathroom bins for paper hence it’s causing a blockage b4 stuff is reaching the tank
We know this for sure as sadly my next door neighbour arrived to find their bathroom floor even the shower cubicle was just covered in paper and worse it was so bad they had to pay a professional cleaner.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: davybill on July 16, 2019, 20:03:59 PM
A couple of dead chickens thrown into the pit every 6 months or so gives the bacteria something to 'chew' on.
zWill frozen  ones do🙄🙄😁
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: davybill on July 16, 2019, 20:09:32 PM
People had the same problem at Lemon 2 sites,a few yrs ago,
apparently  it was a Nappy someone  had put  down  the toilet
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 16, 2019, 20:10:18 PM
Yep. They'll soon thaw out in all that hot sh1te.
 ;)
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 17, 2019, 01:12:06 AM
For once I don’t find your comments humorous KKOB  :(

We now have the additional problem of properties being rented out and no matter how many times we ask people not to put paper etc in the toilet we know some folk ignore this request and carry on doing so regardless.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 06:30:47 AM
For once I don’t find your comments humorous KKOB  :(


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Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2019, 09:55:45 AM
A couple of dead chickens thrown into the pit every 6 months or so gives the bacteria something to 'chew' on.

If you get live ones you can get your chimney cleaned too
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 10:12:16 AM
Well Scunner, I didn't want to cause any further upset by suggesting that they should be used to clean the chimney and then chucked in the s**tpit. But, now you've mentioned it.......

Have you ever tried to catch a chicken that's just come out of a chimney ?  ;)
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2019, 10:15:12 AM
Good point. I'll put them in the cesspit first.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 10:18:00 AM
Don't forget to freeze them first.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Steve A on July 17, 2019, 10:25:49 AM
I think if you are renting a property out it may be best to weigh up the cost of canalisation (mains drains) as people do not look after your place as well as you do.If there’s an option to flush or put in basket ai suspect a lot of people flush.You also get the imbeciles that put nappies and sanitary products Down the loo.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 17, 2019, 12:47:10 PM
We are not going to be renting our house out but have had x2 lots of 6 parties arrive like you say folk don’t look after your property the way owners do...
That is good to know the name for the main drain procedure, one more question on this unpleasant subject who do we phone to get to empty the tank please Steve would it be the MUSKI people do you know?
Thanks very much
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 13:16:28 PM
These are the people you need to get hold of.

http://www.fethiyevidanjor.com/
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Scunner on July 17, 2019, 13:52:10 PM
When we lived there you had to call a guy known to everyone (including himself) as "the sh1t man" :D
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 13:54:35 PM
No.1 In The No.2 Business ?

Or these ?
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Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 13:57:50 PM
When we lived there you had to call a guy known to everyone (including himself) as "the sh1t man" :D

I bet he's on the road to suck cess.   :)
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Liz 101 on July 17, 2019, 14:37:28 PM
I think if you are renting a property out it may be best to weigh up the cost of canalisation (mains drains) as people do not look after your place as well as you do.If there’s an option to flush or put in basket ai suspect a lot of people flush.You also get the imbeciles that put nappies and sanitary products Down the loo.

But it doesn't matter a jot whether you're on mains drainage or have a cess pit, it's the drains from the property that become blocked & cause the blow back of sh1t etc as described by Karennina.

We've had a couple of instances of this on our site & have always been connected to mains drainage. Sadly, it's usually those in ground floor apartments that suffer from the stupidity of those higher in the building.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 17, 2019, 15:05:37 PM
Exactly that Liz re the blocking on the way to the pit and the lower apartments suffering I have never seen anything like the mess in my neighbours bathroom.

Iv spent a few hours this afternoon reading up on cess pits/ septic tanks and also discovered an old thread on here about the subject poss 2013 thread or could have been 2003 even, interesting read so I guess KKOB you weren’t trying to be funny re your chicken comment ( can’t believe we may have to do this well not necessarily a chicken) so my sincere apologies for being irked by your comment earlier...
I’m guessing we are going to have to do the digging to uncover the hatch lid or whatever b4 we call the pit man out sorry can’t call him the $””t man but it does rhyme with pit!



Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 17, 2019, 15:45:22 PM
....interesting read so I guess KKOB you weren’t trying to be funny re your chicken comment ( can’t believe we may have to do this well not necessarily a chicken) so my sincere apologies for being irked by your comment earlier...

Apology accepted. Seriously though, a dead chicken, fresh or frozen, will cost you little and will help towards keeping the bacteria in your pit 'healthy'.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 18, 2019, 11:46:04 AM
Thank u KKOB we have had a guy round from the link you provided super speedy I might add from making the call...
We’re happy with the price to pump the tank out etc, however we now need to find where the actual tank is before they can do the work anyone have any idea how we go about finding it without digging up the whole garden?
Many thanks for any info
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: KKOB on July 18, 2019, 12:10:55 PM
Might be worth going to the council offices to see if there are plans filed for the complex ? Also, have a scout round to see if there's a manhole cover, and / or a breather pipe sticking up amongst the shrubbery.
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Steve A on July 18, 2019, 14:34:19 PM
Drain cover or concrete slab of some sort often the giveaway
Title: Re: Main drains here
Post by: Karennina on July 18, 2019, 14:53:30 PM
Thanks for info the latest is we don’t have a pit but a soakaway with filters or similar, more time on google I think!