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Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« on: April 03, 2020, 13:14:35 PM »
Is it as simple as they are a less “dense” population?

Reading this article puts a different spin on what happens normally in the U.K with 1600 people dying every day under”normal” circumstances every year - usually 17,000 dying of flu - but that is normally spread over 6 months whereas this virus might see the biggest impact over 6 weeks - hence the pressure on the NHS which cannot be ignored - it’s all about capacity.

The article though acknowledges that there is an overlap with “people who were going to die because of underlying conditions in the near future” and Professor Neil Ferguson who seems to be the leading expert in the U.K says as many as two thirds of deaths might have been going to happen in any event - (maybe slightly earlier than they would have been?)

But the really interesting read - the point questioning are the deaths we might save by prolonged lockdown going to be cancelled out by the deaths caused by mental issues, poverty caused by an economic crash etc. as a result of a prolonged lockdown?

I suspect we will really only know 12 months after this virus has been beaten.

Coronavirus: How to understand the death toll https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51979654

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2020, 13:53:54 PM »
It'll be interesting from a statistical point of view to see if, when the 'all clear' has been declared, the overall death rate among the population decreases over a period of a few months. As the figures mentioned in the link suggest that a high number of fatalities are of those who would have been expected to have died within the year anyway.

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2020, 14:17:21 PM »
KKOB - yes, good point.

I have a brother in the final stages of Motor Neurone Disease - (horrible, horrible illness) - he has not been able to stand or move his limbs for over 12 months and his throat is now being affected.
He is 71 but still very sharp intellectually - he was a very successful businessman - did nearly 10 years volunteering in Africa for VSO once he retired at 55 and had always been very fit.

His attitude to Coronavirus is “bring it on” - he means it will be a blessing but should that happen - would that be reported as a Coronavirus fatality - or in his words “don’t be stupid - it’s MND that’s killing me” - can’t disagree with him.

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2020, 18:58:07 PM »
Agreed, it will be extremely interesting to see how their stats compare with ours and others. But it seems totally chaotic to me.

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2020, 17:39:03 PM »
Some very interesting information here - just read some of it for a balanced view and you might keep on reading!

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 18:52:54 PM »
Just read all of it. Some really interesting figures in there.

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2020, 18:11:54 PM »
If you have 55 mins to spare and a cup of coffee - then watch this video to see where Coronavirus really came from.

https://youtu.be/3bXWGxhd7ic

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Re: Why are Sweden reacting differently?
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2020, 08:37:54 AM »
Just finished rereading Dan Brown's "Inferno" How true it could be!




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