Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Hisaronu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Sleuth on September 27, 2012, 16:01:34 PM
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As I predicted last May, Hisaronu has just experienced its worst season ever it seems virtually over already and its not even October Even with the `bird flu`panics of 2007 and `terrorist bombs in Istanbul` the seasons then were better than the present one. The village already during the day is almost comparable to a winter scene with dwindling numbers ( remember when September used to be a popular month here ? ) Slowly Hisaronu is dying . A few survival stories around.. el nino`s, suntrap, orhans hairdressing business, new robin hood, kafka`s , and the dreaded Harmony night club have up that end all done well and many others will just about survive 2013 , but a lot of shops and bars and even restaurants will close never to open again and add to the `gaps` we already have here by 2013 2013 is going to be a critical year for H.. Escalating airfares, rising costs here, fuel, alchohol etc...the increasing off putting `boom boom music` in the village centre , extortionate landlords rental fees, increasing unrest in the middle east, and of course the all inclusives.. plus the competition from other med hotspots with cheaper airfares and booze. Good luck to Hisaronu .. we have our place here, and visit it 7 months a year...and seriously considering living here full time, so I hope you survive as a tourist destination, but its going to get tougher from now on
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I don't fully agree with you.
I went to market on Monday and the place was absolutely packed.
The grey brigade has arrived and they're all complaining that it is too hot for the time of the year.
They're not able to go for a leisurely afternoon stroll ;D
You're right that it has been a bad season.
People were on a tight budget and preferred eating in over eating out.
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Don't be so doom and gloom I'm coming over in October :0 for the first time jeez nw I'm thinking should have gone to Tenerife lol
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Never seen Booty so full it was packed out twice in the last two visits a week ago. They told us they have had 35 Wedding this month alone. Sugar Beach told us that September and October are the most popular times for Weddings, they just had two one with 120 guests one with 170 guests.
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Hisaronu will be here well after all of us on here have fallen by the wayside. Times are tougher not just here but worldwide. Hisaronu and many other like places over the next five years will re-invent themselves. Yes! even go more up market and it will not just be a Brit dominated area in the future. Thank goodness. Anyone taking a really good look at Fethiye will see the way forward for its environs. We also spend half our lives here and we can take or leave places like Hisaronu as it is now. There is much more to Mugla, Oludeniz, Ovack, than the bar/Restaurant areas. It will be interesting what way the all inclusive will fair in future market place too.
The biggest problem to our wonderful area is if the rains came in June, July ,and August and even September. :) 8) Hisaronu! Not the centre of the holiday world!!.... Still love it!
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And as we all know Turks when it comes to business are never known to tell porkies ;) only to the maliye :o :)
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It was dead up there yesterday!
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We didn't find it very busy at all when we were out last month ...yet Olu was really busy.
We went to Kalkan for the day and I got chatting to a lady working in one of the handbag shops she said that Kalkan had had a very busy season so far but the shortage of flights in September meant people were finding it hard to get out there.
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Think that Hisaronu is always quiet during the day as everyone is at the beach in Oludeniz, then at night lots of people come up from Olu for the Hisaronu nightlife.
We were also in Kalkan a couple weeks ago, love a trip up there and took Gemma and Paul. Noticed the prices have really rocketed. Tee shirt I bought in Fethiye was exactly double the price in Kalkan. Paul and Gemma decided to buy nothing there as they had been looking a clothes in Fethiye/Calis/Hisaronu but thought that Kalkan was the most expensive place. I noted most of the handbags where much much expensive than down the coast. The lunch at the harbour was beautiful, but again really expensive. I would not like to be spending a week or two there. Before we left for Kalkan we called in at Zumrut in Calis to exchange money. The exchange rate was £2.86 in Kalkan it was 2.76 on notice boards everywhere.
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Kalkan and maybe even more so Kas is trying had to attract big spenders and it is not the just UK but more new money from Mid East clientele etc.. The new marina built at Kas has some serious money moored there these days. Will that happen in Hisaronu, and we don't mean the marina? NO! Will it happen in Fethiye? In time YES! Only IMO. :)
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I'd say that H is down on numbers it attracts compared to previous years, but the good places still attract a full house, it is those places on the fringe of the strip and without a reputation who look to be struggling. Having said that I see a growing number of people are using the - cheaper and perhaps try harder?? - restaurants and bars outside of Hisaronu High Street/Strip, particularly along the main drag from Ovacik.
And is it me but has there been a particular reduction in the number of young people in the town using the loud bars etc., are they being attracted to the now cheaper Spanish and Greek 'in your face' resorts or are they simply going out after I have left for home, bed and horlicks?? ;D
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Oh Seboni121 , you'll not regret booking Hisaronu. I made a big mistake going to Tenerife last September instead of here.
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Thanx toky I'm looking forward now 9 days 2 go
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And the weather's fab
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4 days to go
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And the weather's fab
and the weathers what Toky.
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Just a light shower to wash and clean the leaves and roads ready for seboni121 coming to Hisaronu, sunshine back again tomorrow!.
And the weather's fab
and the weathers what Toky.
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I have read all the comments have to agree with Sleuth , and having owned a villa in Ovacik for 8 years have seen the area decline in numbers over the years. I just think prices, [most of what you buy at the markets are actually cheaper at home now] poor roads, alleged wrong doings by people in authority, still no direct debit system to pay water bills, burglaries, quad bikes racing around the town, ever increasing air fares have all contributed.
Tired of looking at jewellery shops, newsagents, men dancing on bars, kareokee,cafes and bars and that ridiculous fun fair and go kart who really uses them? Just how many times can you go on the 12 island cruise, mud baths etc
Added to which the hundreds of villas and apartments up for sale and still the building goes on. And the saddest thing? how many dogs and cats just roam the streets if it were not for the brits I suspect there would be even more puppies and kittens [see article about the shot dog in Ovacik] and now the government want to put all strays in a field and let them kill each other! Just what is the world coming to.
Well this year we did something about it and sold our villa to a family originally from Lebanon . Yes we will miss the villa but not the ever increasing running costs we will miss the wonderful weather ,except when those thunderstorms decend from the mountains, but we have chosen to use the money to see other parts of the world.
Please dont get me wrong Turkey as a country still has many attractions but life and how you want t to spend it move on!
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A wonderful and informed post, Andrew H. Can relate to many of the things you have commented on. Pete
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Spot on Andrew !!
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Andrew is spot on, I think Hisonaru is going down the same route as Corfu, watched an interesting programme about it the other night and it seems Corfu's decline started the same way, and definately the prices of the flights will add to this, my friends like Hisonaru and wanted to go this year, but because of the flight prices they went to Spain, it does make you wonder how many more have done the same.
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I agree with parts of that appraisal too. I certainly feel that I have given Turkey enough of my holidays and life now and those of our family. We love the area but have thoroughly enjoyed the holidays we have taken recently to other countries and to those planned for the future. We look forward to future reasons for us "having to visit" Turkey but holidays will very much be the "big wide World out there".
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Well that made depressing reading. Why dont we all pack up and move now. We and all our friends are still enjoying living here. We dont however do Hissy more than 4 times in the season now. 3 or so boat trips. We have settled down to reality. We have done 5 years now and maybe we will feel the same in another 3 years. I still cant envisage going back to the UK....We keep really busy though maybe thats the answer.
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Not all depressing - again I say that I think it can suit many people perfectly as a place to retire. For some of those who perhaps didn't move there to retire there might be a feeling that they have simply "been there, done that". Certainly that is where we found ourselves.
The biggest problem facing Hisaronu (and the rest of Turkey's resorts) in my opinion is this. If it goes from what we discovered - a beautiful place to holiday with cheap restaurants and bars - and becomes a beautiful place but expensive for eating out and expensive alcohol, I think it will be unable to compete with cheaper and closer holiday destinations and will lose a huge amount of holiday visitors.
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Glad my comments attracted some response. I can understand what everyone has said and there are many factors which influence people's decisions, my comments were just my thoughts.
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As this thread seems to have turned into some members seemingly using Hisaronu to justify their move, sell up, likes and dislikes. Some of the reasons would indicate that some little thought was ever made in the earlier days as to how an area could change for good or bad and some of the other reasons are just laughable.
For a couple who have spent almost half their life in Ovacik over the past ten years, initially giving ourselves maybe five years then move on. No bones about it the weather was and is still the big draw, Turkish people ,food scenery etc have been a great bonus, and we do appreciate the health benefits we have gained with our life here. We have travelled this wonderful province of Mugla which is easy and inexpensive to do as is the many other places in the wider Turkey. Anyone taking the time to travel will find the roads are very good and being improved all the time. We will move on at some time but will never find the need of an excuse. From day one have accepted the differences in all aspects of life in Turkey. Trying to compare Turkey with the UK in most ways, just don't do it.
We do love the UK, it is in our opinion the best place in the world to Live. Appreciating we all have different reasons to try the Turkey life, knowing we are very lucky to have have had the opportunity to have this experience our way. :) 8)
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Well Said.
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Which reasons are 'laughable'?
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"Laughable" but not in a funny way! Seems these reasons are so easy to avoid, How? Just don't go there! :) We all have a point of view.
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Which reasons are 'laughable'?
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Tired of looking at jewellery shops, newsagents, men dancing on bars, kareokee,cafes and bars and that ridiculous fun fair and go kart who really uses them? Just how many times can you go on the 12 island cruise, mud baths etc
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There are also those of us who when retired with only a state pension, ( being self employed ) and a `decimated` private pension, and a wife who has to wait for a state pension until she is 66 ( but originally was planned for 60 ) selling up in the UK and living in Turkey seems a very attractive proposition and promising a `pound in the pocket` and a decent lifestyle at this stage in our lives.... if we stay in the UK.. ?? Just a kick in the teeth for us and many senior citizens and a struggle to survive
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Glad my comments attracted some response. I can understand what everyone has said and there are many factors which influence people's decisions, my comments were just my thoughts.
Exactly, each to their own, and personally if the flights were cheaper we would have been back a few more times, but probably opt for a cheapy in Spain, or maybe somewhere else,
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Ovacik2, you are entitled to your opinion as anyone is, mine, i would rather live on Mars than the UK, WORKED 46 Years never claimed a penny of the state, and now see the so called Great Britain welcome the whole of other nationalities in and give them houses to live in and cash benefits have cars mobile phones, tv,s etc, and they will tell you it is their HUMAN RIGHTS, as for looking at jewellery shops, men dancing on bars, etc. try setting your alarm clock and the go out at 4 or 5am and see the police trying to control our fellow brits who are out of their heads on drink and drugs, young girls vomiting on the streets having sex openly in full view of anyone, and not batting an eyelid,and you my friend have to pay for all this through extortionate taxes,so you enjoy the best of both worlds as you put it, because when you are up there is only one other way to go and that is down.
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The person who made reference to Jewellery Shops, dancing on bars and 12 Island trips was AndrewH not Ovacik2!! Ovacik2 sighted these reasons for slagging off Hisaranu as being laughable.
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Well I didn't see any of this kind of behaviour but luckily wasn't there in the summer, hissi is a nice place wifey liked it better than feithye ? , the only problem we has was the Monday market totally bloody awful IMO they where to aggressive, the Tuesday market was much more civilised ( feithye ) maybe that's why we spent a few bob, someone really should let the stall holders know they will earn more by being less in your face, hisaronu dying ? A lot of the shops where closed and looked that way for years, the little shop which has a couple of steps to go down into it opposite the Chinese restaurant where the crossroads are said he has had a good year and is looking forward to next year, the issue we had also is the street lights down to hotel was turned off as it was end of season but the hotel was full ? Ascena village and at night with the wild boars roaming wasn't clever or safe