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Title: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Phil on January 15, 2017, 18:16:22 PM
I have a feeling this MAY have been done before, but here goes anyway.......

My thoughts turned the other day to various characters I have seen in Calis over the years and how some of these possess a Phoenix like ability to disappear from one place and then resurrect themselves in another.

I wondered who was the longest surviving person to have maintained continuous service in one place without the need to leave “their restaurant” and then reappear in “their new business” ??

So......your nominations please.

The rules are : same place, same establishment (no name changes), continuous presence ( no breaks ) and still there now.

I have two possibilities : Dr John at the Carretta and Bayram at the Hamsi Pansiyon.

Any other nominations ???
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Ally B on January 15, 2017, 18:26:39 PM
Oben  at Obens
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 15, 2017, 18:30:49 PM
George and his two sons Savash & Hasan (and there Mum who makes the puffy bread) at George's known then for 13 years now and they are there every year. No name changes, same staff. 
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: blueclad on January 15, 2017, 19:02:36 PM
Senay and nuran   16 yrs plus at gunisik [ frank cannons ]
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: sadler on January 15, 2017, 19:12:11 PM
Cenap and Kathy, cafe Pazar. Been there for years.  ;D
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 15, 2017, 20:52:09 PM
Kathy is no longer at Cafe Pazar, Cenap has a new younger blonde partner now.   Plus their place moved over the road, so not in the same location.  Sadler, did you not visit this year?  If so you would have noticed the "change"
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 15, 2017, 20:58:24 PM
George at Georges has been in business for 30 years, but forgot to mention, we have only been coming to the area for 13 years.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Colwyn on January 16, 2017, 07:48:53 AM
Dr John at the Carretta
Would that be the same "Dr John" who used to sell massages on the beach in the 1990s and after that at the Letoon I think?
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Highlander on January 16, 2017, 09:11:39 AM
Was that not Gerald Colwyn ?

He made a desperate mess of the present Mrs H arm >:(
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Highlander on January 16, 2017, 09:14:08 AM
I would nominate a gentleman whose name I have never known. :-[ :-[ :-[.

The runs the shop just up from Letoon and seems to be there morning, noon and night
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Phil on January 16, 2017, 09:19:39 AM
I am sure that many of the long serving "Carrettees" will enjoy the imagery of Dr John selling massages but I am sure that it would not have been him.

Do any of his long standing guests know how long Dr John has been there ???
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Colwyn on January 16, 2017, 09:52:22 AM
Was that not Gerald Colwyn ?
Quite right H. My memory led me astray. I remember some Turkish people loathed him and thought he was a pervert. Hope Brenda's encounter didn't leave permanent scars - physical or mental.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Christie on January 16, 2017, 12:51:05 PM
Joseph, from the bar of the same name, must have been there some time now.  He was the first person we spoke to when we started going to Calis, some 20 years back, when he worked for Maurice at the old Post Office.  Also agree the guy who has the little shop along from the Letoon has been there a long time, always happy to see you. 
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Ally B on January 16, 2017, 14:58:35 PM
The grumpy git that is manager or owner of the Rose Beach or Rosary Beach.(the most unpleasant Turk I have ever come across in over twenty years)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Google on January 16, 2017, 17:16:05 PM
Cemmy from Ayden pida?
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: col on January 16, 2017, 21:22:44 PM
One of the longest and most helpful and who has not moved as such, must be from here.........Scunner
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 16, 2017, 22:10:32 PM
Yes he has, he is now living in Perthchester.   He got kicked out of Turkey... :D :P  ;)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Karennina on January 16, 2017, 22:29:08 PM
I dont want to hijack the thread but Im sooo glad I am not the only one who encountered the grumpy ole man at Rosary Beach we would never stay there again, didnt much like the hotel anyway but he was the icing on the cake for me to not return!
Re the guy at the shop up from the Letoon would that be the little market you go down some steps to if so totally agree lovely friendly guy
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Christie on January 16, 2017, 23:25:05 PM
yes, that is the shop - lovely man.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: eagles on January 17, 2017, 16:58:37 PM
yes the lovely shop man, we call him the 'Bowie' man - allows bows to you with his greeting!
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: blueclad on January 17, 2017, 17:23:46 PM
Another one is MEMHET the head waiter at the Oykun Hotels 20 yrs  service to the Ocek family
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: stoop on January 18, 2017, 16:14:27 PM
Rushie at just bout every place on the front  ;D
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: pompeylee on January 18, 2017, 21:28:49 PM
This post goes to show there is quite a few long serving charecters in calis we all remember for different but mostly nice reasons that all add to make calis so special, long may it continue
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: cally on January 20, 2017, 18:30:51 PM
Is it really relevant to post on here that Genap has a new younger blonde partner???????????
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 20, 2017, 18:40:51 PM
Is it really relevant to post on here that Genap has a new younger blonde partner???????????

Well, you've brought it up again. The rest of us had moved on.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: cally on January 20, 2017, 18:55:23 PM
Well whatever!!! but as this happened a good while ago some people obviously have not moved on
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 20, 2017, 20:33:52 PM
Well whatever!!! but as this happened a good while ago some people obviously have not moved on

Need to get your facts right here.  This post was to nominate people who had been around a long time.  One member's post said.
 
"Cenap and Kathy, cafe Pazar. Been there for years"

So, the member did not know the current situation.  They now have the information that you obviously thought they should know, so they can move on. It is clear that people who visit this place all the time would know this, but, not everyone who does not visit on a regular basis would. Perhaps too, it is best the poster should know, because they could easily walk into this restaurant and enquire about someone who is no longer there.    ;)

Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: cally on January 20, 2017, 20:56:24 PM
I understand what this post is about but as a friend of both  Cathy and Cenap I fail to see the significance of the description you give.
 of Cenaps new lady within this topic.
Would Cenap and Cathy are no longer together sufficed?????
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 20, 2017, 21:16:57 PM
Wouldn't it have been far better if you'd raised your concerns in a PM instead of on the open forum ? Then the OP could have asked for their post to be edited if they thought it necessary.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Karennina on January 21, 2017, 20:19:02 PM
Not forgetting Edi and his little kopek at the silver shop   :)
We genuinely didnt know Cathy and Cenap had split up, had a lot of time for Cathy she is lovely didnt really know Cenap that well, i feel Cafe Pazar wont be the same without Cathy there  :(
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 21, 2017, 20:26:43 PM
Let it go ! Let it go ! Let it go !  ;)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Scunner on January 22, 2017, 02:13:51 AM
I understand what this post is about but as a friend of both  Cathy and Cenap I fail to see the significance of the description you give.
 of Cenaps new lady within this topic.
Would Cenap and Cathy are no longer together sufficed?????

Yes but as KKOB already stated, the only person giving the blonde new partner any publicity in recent days is you. I hadn't even seen the original (JH) post at all, and have only now because of your entry into the debate on here, much later.

In real terms the topic had long since moved on past that, with no great interest in it at all. As a friend of both of them you are doing well at now being the only person bringing greater publicity than the post originally managed itself - in regard to the new blonde partner.

Feel free to continue bringing publicity to it, using the medium of complaining publically about it to bring it all up again  :D
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: davybill on January 22, 2017, 07:49:06 AM
How long as the new blonde partner been there?
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Scunner on January 22, 2017, 11:58:01 AM
And how old is he 8)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 22, 2017, 12:19:42 PM
Davybill,
We called to Cafe Pazar inn May to get a DVD that Hassan did not have. We noted the changes then.   Have not been back since and no plans to return, already reviewed the breakfast on CBF  at the time.

Back on Track......
Someone else who has been around a long time seems to be the flower man.  However, I think maybe he is getting  a bit old to carry that basket of flowers. He now has a pitch on the road that goes up to Scarletts.   His flowers have always been 10TL a bunch, great value, I can fill two vases wit them.  We often wonder will he ever increase the price, particularly with the Lira soaring up  over the last couple of years.   
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Scunner on January 22, 2017, 12:38:20 PM
Davybill,
We called to Cafe Pazar inn May to get a DVD that Hassan did not have. We noted the changes then.   Have not been back since and no plans to return, already reviewed the breakfast on CBF  at the time.

Back on Track......
Someone else who has been around a long time seems to be the flower man.  However, I think maybe he is getting  a bit old to carry that basket of flowers. He now has a pitch on the road that goes up to Scarletts.   His flowers have always been 10TL a bunch, great value, I can fill two vases wit them.  We often wonder will he ever increase the price, particularly with the Lira soaring up  over the last couple of years.

Strangely I only remember the flower man from recent years. Maybe no earlier than around 2011 in fact.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Karennina on January 22, 2017, 12:46:51 PM
Sorry i didnt mean to rake up re Cathy and Jenap again I had meant to say on my original post I would only be making the one comment on the thread about their split, I genuinely didnt know about it and really like Cathy, I was trying to think when I last went there as Murat does my Dvds, we used to alternate between Murat and Hasan but last time we asked Hasan he did not want us taking the book from Nil to a bar a few doors away as he said he did not like them in there so we didnt bother, completely cant be doing with all that c@@p...
Anyway it was start of season so maybe nothing had changed then and last time Derek went down on his own to get the dvds, i dont think we went to Cafe Pazar for drinks or food at all last season...
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 22, 2017, 12:58:14 PM
Hi Scunner,
I always buy flowers but I to do not remember how long the Flower man has been around. The first night we go out I look for him to get flowers and then buy them every week for the following 5 weeks. Do this in May/June and September/October, so,, possibly this is why I am thinking he has been around a long time.
I was reading last week that a Gypsy woman who used to visit the shops in Fethiye had died and was wondering was it the same woman who sells the roses in Calis. Always loved her twinkly skirts.   Now, how long has she been selling roses in Calis??
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: lissa on January 22, 2017, 13:35:08 PM
Gypsy lady who died was called Yildiz and worked around Fethiye. Don't think she ever worked in Calis. Older lady, you might have seen her in the fish market or around Paspatur though.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 22, 2017, 13:42:30 PM
I can remember the Flower Man from around the summer of 2003. That's if it's the same fella of course. Anyone got a photo of him ?
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 22, 2017, 13:44:14 PM
Gypsy lady who died was called Yildiz and worked around Fethiye. Don't think she ever worked in Calis. Older lady, you might have seen her in the fish market or around Paspatur though.

I remember her. I think her and I had a clash of personalities. Probably her fault though.  ;)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 22, 2017, 15:22:28 PM
I can remember the Flower Man from around the summer of 2003. That's if it's the same fella of course. Anyone got a photo of him ?

No picture but he looks like Willie Thorne.   :)

Lissa, Thanks for that.  I will expect to see the Calis gypsy lady again when we are over.   ;D
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Toky on January 22, 2017, 15:30:30 PM
A bit like this
(https://s30.postimg.org/uyrfp4yfh/willie_Thorn.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uyrfp4yfh/)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: philrose on January 22, 2017, 15:43:36 PM

Back on Track......
Someone else who has been around a long time seems to be the flower man.  However, I think maybe he is getting  a bit old to carry that basket of flowers. He now has a pitch on the road that goes up to Scarletts.   His flowers have always been 10TL a bunch, great value, I can fill two vases wit them.  We often wonder will he ever increase the price, particularly with the Lira soaring up  over the last couple of years.   

Price just went up last week now 15TL....
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: JohnF on January 22, 2017, 16:01:37 PM
Gypsy lady who died was called Yildiz and worked around Fethiye. Don't think she ever worked in Calis. Older lady, you might have seen her in the fish market or around Paspatur though.

I remember her. I think her and I had a clash of personalities. Probably her fault though.   ;)

We fell out some time round about 2004, and it was definitely her fault.

JF
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 22, 2017, 16:19:13 PM

Back on Track......
Someone else who has been around a long time seems to be the flower man.  However, I think maybe he is getting  a bit old to carry that basket of flowers. He now has a pitch on the road that goes up to Scarletts.   His flowers have always been 10TL a bunch, great value, I can fill two vases wit them.  We often wonder will he ever increase the price, particularly with the Lira soaring up  over the last couple of years.   

Price just went up last week now 15TL....

No problem, I expected it, still cheap.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Lotty on January 22, 2017, 16:53:45 PM
Which flower lady in Pasoatur? The one who always collared us was quite a plump very friendly woman who seemed to be an in charge.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Liz 101 on January 22, 2017, 17:46:52 PM
That's the one I know too Lotty. I saw her in Fethiye just before Christmas &, as ever, we exchanged pleasantries
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 22, 2017, 19:20:08 PM
A bit like this
(https://s30.postimg.org/uyrfp4yfh/willie_Thorn.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/uyrfp4yfh/)


Yeah, could be. Except he wasn't bald on top. Didn't have dark hair. Didn't have a moustache. Didn't wear a blue jacket. Didn't wear a grey shirt. Apart from that, a dead ringer.  :)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Toky on January 22, 2017, 19:45:20 PM
Well KKOB, the one that's being talked about is exactly like this picture. You must be thinking of someone else
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Scunner on January 22, 2017, 19:46:50 PM
He is different to the others in that he has a huge basket full of flowers, rather than a few roses nicked from someone's garden
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Lotty on January 22, 2017, 20:13:52 PM
He really does look like that photo Toky  :D
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: davybill on January 23, 2017, 06:51:40 AM
Yes that is Willy Thorn the flower man, but there is another flower man who is taller
and thinner than Willy, who as been around a few years.
he just walks around with a few roses.but doesn't say anything.
always see him on the Fethiye/Calis dolmus.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 23, 2017, 08:27:47 AM
Walking around with a few roses IMHO does not make you a flower man (or woman). I know the guy you mean, I assumed he was a gypsy too.
Walking around with a huge heavy basket full  of flowers that are hand tied and have a lovely selection of different flowers in each bunch all wrapped in cellophane and a set price being charged for each bunch, again IMHO does make you a flower man.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: KKOB on January 23, 2017, 08:39:29 AM
IMHO, I'm sure the BSI audit team would appreciate your input the next time they assess Flower Sellers.  :)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 23, 2017, 08:56:29 AM
IMHO,  I think after buying so many flowers both in Calis and always buying when we are elsewhere abroad i.e., a bunch of flowers in Tallin for our cabin on a cruise, always bring back flowers and bulbs from the Flower Market in Amsterdam. I got a lovely bunch of Bird of Paradise flowers in Maderia to bring home and of course at home in Scotland where I usually buy about 4 bunches per week.  I think I may know just a little about this subject. 
I would be happy to be a consultant on flower buying, glad you appreciate my expertise KKOB, put a word in for me will you?  If I ever get to the wilds of Wales I would be happy to help you too.  ;) ;D :P : :)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Colwyn on January 23, 2017, 09:14:06 AM
Oh good, a clash of militant humilities.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Highlander on January 23, 2017, 10:10:53 AM
In my not so humble opinion, we should get back on topic   ;)
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on January 23, 2017, 13:35:24 PM
O.K. John you next...
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: davybill on January 23, 2017, 14:59:08 PM
Walking around with a few roses IMHO does not make you a flower man (or woman). I know the guy you mean, I assumed he was a gypsy too.
Walking around with a huge heavy basket full  of flowers that are hand tied and have a lovely selection of different flowers in each bunch all wrapped in cellophane and a set price being charged for each bunch, again IMHO does make you a flower man.
He is nothing like a gypsy Jacqui. he has got a nice suit and always dressed smart. I think hes a guy just trying to make a kuros,
as he must be well in his 70s.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Sandra48 on January 31, 2017, 16:14:01 PM
Yes the little guy who has the shop just up from the Letoon has been there at least 20 years.  We first met him when we used to stay at the Letoon and used to visit every day and always buy our drinks and ice-creams from him, and even though we no longer stay at the Letoon we always make a point of going to visit him.  He would have to be one of the nicest people in Calis and is at his shop from first thing in the morning to last thing at night, funnily enough after all these years I don't know his name, but I know him and his family live above the shop.
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Cavfan on February 06, 2017, 20:27:05 PM
I'm wading into this one , I'll see your chap near the Letoon, and raise you with someone who was there on our first visit in 1988 , the 'little man' in the shop on the corner opposite to the Eroz. ' Gul' market. Now I don't know if this will qualify as in fairness he has moved as his shop was originally under the then Kumsal pension which became the Harem and he moved and expanded to his current location ! However he's been a purveyor of 'essentials' since we first arrived!
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Phil on February 07, 2017, 09:09:34 AM
Yes – I had thought of the guy at the Gul myself........ under the founding rules of the poll he would be disallowed, but I have now signed an Executive Order which has amended the rules. Business owners ( or their staff ) who have moved premises ONLY, but have continued to trade under the same name are now allowed.

This would allow the Cafe Pazaar to compete, but I think the Guy at the Gul might be the leader.

( I still think Bayram at the Hamsi Bar ( next to the Mutlu ) is a contender..... any one got any verified dates for him ? )
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: philrose on February 07, 2017, 11:11:17 AM
Bayram was certainly there in the late 90's (98 I think was the first time we called in).
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: trainer on February 07, 2017, 13:24:40 PM
The big guy who owns Ayden Pide (cant remember his name) on the roundabout plus the 2 brothers who have the corner shop on the other side of the roundabout i have been using both for 12 years now
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Scunner on February 07, 2017, 22:28:55 PM
The big guy is Cem/Jimmy


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Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: trainer on February 08, 2017, 09:38:15 AM
That's him seems a nice guy even when I haven't used his place for a wile always says hi or waves
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Cavfan on February 08, 2017, 19:38:53 PM
Bayram is slightly later than Gul man but not much!
Title: Re: Longest serving Calis worker
Post by: Phil on February 10, 2017, 08:45:09 AM
Another character of long standing came to mind........ The rather fine gentlemen ( whose name I can never recall ) who owns the Bambu Bar and the hotel next door ( the Aytur, I think).

His daughter, Fidan, currently runs the Bambu but her dad was there for a very long time.

He is unfortunately disallowed from this award as he is now practically retired and can’t be said to be still working.

However, I think he would qualify for the Academy’s Lifelong Achievement award.