Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Ian on October 18, 2015, 09:30:40 AM
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Interesting
ftp://http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/456243-buy-a-house-get-free-turkish-citizenship
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Now wouldnt that just be great :) :) :) :) :) :)
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I think the bit about being able to work would naturally be overturned but the rest could happen as a welcome boost to the construction sector - especially if RTE gets his demands from the EU enhanced even further.
Nothing surprises out here..........fingers crossed ;)
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National service?
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National service?
Read the last sentence of paragraph 4. :)
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The point being once a citizen are you still a foreigner.
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The point being once a citizen are you still a foreigner.
Yes, but only in the same way that someone from Turkey living in the UK and holding a UK passport would still be regarded as a foreigner by many people.
As a Turkish citizen you have the same rights and obligations as others, but it would seem that an exception is being proposed in respect of National Service. There may be something to consider regarding offspring though. If the owner of the house becomes a citizen and their children also become citizens, it's more than likely that a male offspring would become elligible for National Service.
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So by that reckoning it's possible that If my 22 yr old son were to visit me for a holiday, he could be conscripted into the Turkish armed forces, theoretically of course.
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If the owner of the house becomes a citizen and their children also become citizens, it's more than likely that a male offspring would become elligible for National Service.
Only if he took up citizenship.
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I think it still won't be that easy to get the citizenship, you need to have lived here 8 years to be eligible for long term residency, IMHO, to be able to have citizenship, you probably will have had to have owned and lived here for about 20 years.
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I misunderstand the word "automatic" then.
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As the article states:
Questions
There are lots of details not known right now. Is it really free or is there a cost? Would there be a qualifying period? Would the property have to be above a minimum value? What happens if you sell? And presumably the system of residence permits would continue for non-property owning expats (renters).
For now we should stress there is no change. This is simply a proposal and it remains to be seen if and when it becomes law.
Who would have thought a 5 year visa would drop in price from nearly 2000 lira to 200 lira 4 years ago - this is Turkey - always keep an open mind and never be surprised. The Middle East and Europe are changing landscapes.......
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Having read the article again I see it says that foreigners who buy a property would be granted the same rights as citizens. It doesn't say that they would get citizenship.
News is emerging of a proposal to introduce a new law in Turkey, granting foreigners who buy a property the same rights as Turkish citizens.
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Interesting
http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/456243-buy-a-house-get-free-turkish-citizenship (http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/456243-buy-a-house-get-free-turkish-citizenship)
It's interesting, but not much more - plus, he is AKP and might not even be a deputy come November.
Citizenship (even a watered down version) is much more important to Turks than those from the UK, US etc. The CHP and MHP would never consider giving a foreigner rights approaching that of a Turkish citizen, it'd be similar to letting a recent immigrant to the UK borrow the Crown Jewels for a wedding.
If, and it's a big if, a system were to emerge allowing "citizenship" in return for investment (property or otherwise) you can bet your arse the financial threshold would be a hell of a lot more than the value of a two bed apartment in Calis or duplex in Ovacik.
As regards Military service, calm down folks - to be eligible you have to be a full citizen, speak Turkish and not be a homosexual (their rules).
JF
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Think there is an over 40 rule as well? One of the Turkish waiters in our local Turkish Restaurant in Aberdeen, told us he is not going back to Turkey until he is 40 years old, as they cannot get him for National Service then.
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he is not going back to Turkey until he is 40 years old, as they cannot get him for National Service then.
Nope, they cant. However they can get him for evading his military obligation under the constitution, up to three years in the pokey.
JF
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I think the line about entering and leaving the country "as a citizen" was probably intended to read "as a citizen would." Basically the same as having a long-term residence permit with the right to work. It sounds impossible, they wouldn't just let anyone become a Turkish citizen just because they buy a property. But it does make sense that they would arrange something so that property owners are not subject to the 120-day restriction for being out of the country, having to keep re-applying for residence permits again and again.
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If, and it's a big if, a system were to emerge allowing "citizenship" in return for investment (property or otherwise) you can bet your arse the financial threshold would be a hell of a lot more than the value of a two bed apartment in Calis or duplex in Ovacik.
Looks like I wasn't far off the mark, Zeybekci has been quoted in HDN recent;y:
"The minister recalled that many countries offer a similar implementation, also saying the base limit could stand somewhere between $500,000 and $1 million."
Kinda rules it out for most folks I think..
Full story (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/minister-suggests-offering-turkish-citizenship-to-property-buyers.aspx?pageID=238&nID=90922&NewsCatID=344)
JF