Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: Louz on August 23, 2018, 20:30:56 PM
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Hi,
I am looking at a GF apartment on Lapis and am wondering if anyone on here has property on this site, and can tell me whether in general they are happy with it?
I previously had an apartment near Blueberry hotel, but it had damp issues, and with it being sealed up for several months at a time it was something that I could not manage; regretfully I had to sell.
The Lapis apartment doesn't look like it has these issues, but as I have learnt, this doesn't prove anything.
Any feedback from current or previous Lapis site owners would be much appreciated!
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Louz,
We're on Lapis and more than happy with our place.
There are a couple of friendly Turkish families living there all year round - good for security and dealing with site management issues in the local language.
Although there are 22 apartments in the site, I've never seen more than half occupied at any one time so everyone gets a good amount of space around the pool.
Feel free too PM me if your have any other questions and if your do buy make sure you come and say 'Hi' if we're out at the same time, that's normally an Efes or two in the fridge! We're next out for the last week of September if you happen to be too.
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Hi Ian and Sian
Thanks so much for getting back to me. That all sounds good :-)
We are going out at the beginning of September unfortunately so won't catch you but if all goes well I may see you there one day!
Have you ever experianced damp issues in your apartment? I just had such a bad experianced with my other place that now I'm super paranoid that all flats there have this issue. It was so bad that the batteries used to rust in the air con remotes!
Thanks again
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when we first moved in to Waterside we had quite a bit of damp we brought over a dehumidifier and Olga of inturturk estates (who looks after our apartment) used to go round and switch it on after any heavy rain fall at the time that used to do the trick once the upstairs flat was occupied all year round we don't seem to have any damp barring once when we had a leak in an outside cupboard that penetrated our bedroom wall, unfortunately because they are only occupied for a few weeks of the year you will get damp problems and for me the only sure way to solve it is to have some one open and close windows on a regular bases and if need be use a dehumidifier.
Most properties are not built for the rainy/damp conditions in the winter
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Thanks Trainer, I think I was a bit unlucky before, bits of plaster used to actually fall off the internal walls when I wasn't there, it was heart breaking to come back for a holiday and walk into that. Clothes had to be thrown out due to mould, and the situation was just getting worse over time. Someone could make a fortune selling DPC!
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Can’t use DPC as when there’s a bit of an earthquake the building would just slide of the concrete base, I bought on Lapis off plan and despite the fact that mine is for sale I love the place, unfortunately family situation has changed and I will no longer be able to retire to Turkey
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Ah right that does make sense! I did wonder why it wasn't used. That's a shame that you have to sell but I hope you still enjoy your retirement and can have holidays without work interrupting
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I know/knew all the builders out there and there is a massive difference in quality and also priorities. There is damp caused by poor construction and there is damp caused by poor air circulation/ventilation.
In my (humble) opinion, the construction of Lapis and sister complexes was of excellent quality. I'd buy one myself! Well if I had a spare 60k or so :D
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Thanks Scunner, yes you can see the differences, well I can now I am symptom spotting for problems. My old apartment was not good quality unfortunately, which I discovered over time. I brought it brand new so...yer, I was had really.
Lapis and sister complexes look superior, I just wanted to check that it wasn't just clever decorating and landscaping! You have confirmed what I hoped was the case. Many thanks :-)
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Dare I ask, what is DCP?
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Damp proof course :-) used in the UK. Old houses have slate and newer houses have plastic DPC. Used to prevent rising damp.
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Thankyou. :D we had a duplex which had damp up the stairwell. It didn’t start from ground level but was all the way up the stairs. apparently it was ingress from the wall. I know how it feels to have had the wall decorated prior to coming out for the summer and finding the plaster blown. Am interested to see how this is corrected. (We have since sold but the upset of finding the walls damp still lives on). :)
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Yes you dont get over that in a hurry! If im honest i have no idea how to cure it, i could never find a solution which also forced me to sell. Such a shame as the flat was perfect for me other than that. Im hoping to buy another one without the problem...if it is a possibility that is!
I have noticed that some complexes look more 'crumbley' than others. All down to build quality i guess.
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It's an anagram of DPC which is sort of damp proof course :) The layer normally a couple of bricks up from the ground that prevents moisture rising up from the ground to the walls.
DPM I call them but that's me ;)
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Taking aside poor construction, the vast majority of damp issues in properties used as holiday homes is down to a lack of ventilation when properties are effectively sealed up for the dampest and wettest months of the year. One other issue can be patio/terrace drain being blocked by wind blown debris which then allows water to pool, an issue we had in Karagozler as we backed on to the forest and the pine needles often clogged up the rear terrace drains. Simple solution is to get property management company/friend to check them over the winter months.
Where we are in Spain many properties have issues with damp due a high water table. Various (permanent) solutions are promoted but in our opinion few are really effective. Our biggest issues are with the 250yr old walls, which are almost a metre thick in some places. Allowing the walls to breathe by not using any impermeable coatings and regular maintenance to reduce flaking is our tactic just now.
I know a few folk in Turkey who set up their own form of automated ventilation by way of installing small extractor fans venting to the outside air, either solar powered or from the mains. Never had need to do it myself but appeared to be fairly effective.
JF
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The automated vents sound like a good idea, i will look into these :-) thanks.
A property management company this time is definately on the cards. I get a condensation issue even in my house in England but as i am there most of the time i can keep a handle on it. The rising damp issue with poorly constructed properties in turkey is so problematic, i hope to avoid it in future!
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I really fancied karagozler but ive heard so much about the damp there caused by the mountains that it did put me off. There is a gf flat for sale there at the moment, its lovely but im just not there enough to manage issues brought upon by there not being enough sunlight hitting the place.
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I watched a video the other day regarding damp & condensation. It states not to open windows between Oct-March ( In UK) during damp weather as this just brings more damp air inside thus creating more damp conditions and condensation. Wether this would apply to Turkey I'm not sure as I've never experienced the winter months there. As John F said probably a vent would be effective or a dihumidifier if someone can switch on/off occasionally for you.
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Definately, a dehumidifier will be one of my first purchases!
Thanks all for your help and advice, much appreciated :) :) :)
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I have a villa near Lapis and, luckily, have never had any damp issues (in 8 years), although it’s shut up a lot and not used very much. When I leave in the autumn I put those cheap (£1ish) dehumidifying pots in each room. They are usually full of water in May but last year I left in June and didn’t come back/put any out. Luckily there were still no problems, despite the foul winter, so I’m not sure whether to bother again, but they may help others’? I do have the place regularly checked by a property manager though. Someone told me ‘all properties are damp on the ground floor’, but this is blatantly untrue and depends on the build quality.