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Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: Eric on June 26, 2006, 15:11:35 PM

Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on June 26, 2006, 15:11:35 PM
Hi,
We are moving to Uzumlu early 2007 (Tapu in both our names) and are trying to sort out the wills issue!
Our UK wills leave everything to the surving spouse and on their death to my 2 sons. My hubbies kids are not beneficeries for personal reasons.
We want to make out a will with the same terms in Turkey so that each of us is protected and our estate goes to the people we choose eg my 2 sons.
Is this possible and does anyone know a good English speaking solicitor we can use when over in Fethiye in Sept 06.

Has anyone moved your furniture etc over to Turkey and if so can we have the names of companies you'd recommend as we've heard of door to door deliveries not coming up to expectations and of having to go to the port of entry to sort it out. Any tips gratefully rec'd.

Thanks for your help.

Fiona & Eric Robson

Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Dippey on June 26, 2006, 15:18:20 PM
Eric

plenty of choices here:-
Search with the word "containers" and a few topics with companies recommeded.

Contact "Kayakoyuoldboy" or "Stoop" on thru forum re removal company to Uzumlu.

Search with the word "wills Solicitors" and plenty recommendations there too.

or "Stuart" for an english will maker in turkey.

Then look around for comparisons, ps i accept no responsibility ;)

Dippz
Banged head and being helpful.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on June 26, 2006, 15:26:48 PM
Thanks Dippey, will follow up on suggestions but would also like some personal recommendations.
Cheers
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: tribalelder on June 26, 2006, 15:39:42 PM
www.sumerman.com  Lots of info about them already posted. Found them to be excellent and NO you don't have to go to Izmir. Email me if you have any particular queries. :)
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on June 26, 2006, 18:11:46 PM
I agree with Tribalelder. We used Sumerman's and didn't have to go to port of entry. Gave them Power of Attorney to act for us.

Just be aware that in most cases, "door to door" involves all goods being stripped out of the container at Izmir /  Istanbul and then reloaded onto local transport. Make sure that fragile items are very well protected.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on June 26, 2006, 19:33:17 PM
Thanks for that will contact them nearer the time...Do you know whether we will be able to bring in our TV, Surround Sound, DVD/Video etc etc?
Have heard we can but will pay tax on it...any idea how much?
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: tribalelder on June 26, 2006, 20:11:33 PM
Bandarol Fees:
TV  120-380 Euros depending on screen size
DVD   180 Euros
Hi Fi  180 Euros
Satelite system 300 Euros
VCR 70 Euros
Radio 50 Euros
In a lot of cases it is not worth the cost depending on the value of your equipment of course. smaller items could come in your luggage. ;) A new DVD here is probbly much less than the Bandarol to import yours! :)
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on June 27, 2006, 15:23:49 PM
Thanks  Tribaleder great info and we can way up the value of the items we want to bring over against the tax.
Do you find Dalaman is ok ref customs, suitcase checks? When we were over in March saw loads of boxed TV, computers etc coming through on the luggage belt...didn't seem to be a problem and were not being checked by any officials ;)
Any tips welcome...
Just heard that the build starts Thurs as all permissions are in place. Can't wait to get there in Sept..
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: lindacarl on June 27, 2006, 17:45:12 PM
Last month we brought over a small little used but 4 year old portable TV - boxed up & covered with plastic. We got stopped by Customs who demanded £55 to take it into Turkey. As it wasn't worth that & was only a stopgap until we bought one we wanted we left it at the airport.

Before we left I checked the official Turkish Government site for allowances (for the life of me I can't find the original one now) & the only reason we took was that it said TVs under 55cm were permitted in duty free also goods up to around £200 & gifts were allowed.
I argued with the Customs chap & he said it wasn't customs duty but was a broadcasting fee???? even telling him we were leaving it as a gift (it would have been after a short while, when we'd bought what we wanted) didn't help. We were told we had to collect it & take it home with us - What a hassle that was!

Customs was closed when we arrived for the flight back. I had to be escorted downstairs & hung around whilst the Customs people ate & kept telling me they were closed I should have come earlier. I followed one customs man as he appeared to want me to do only for him to turn & go into the gents. I stopped when I realised thankfully. He wanted me to sign I'd had the TV back & tried to take the paperwork off me while all the time he did nothing but sit on his a...   Thankfully security were more efficient - I was getting worried as bus was late picking us up & less than an hour remained till our flight - we hadn't checked in as we couldn't without the TV. Bless the security chap who carried it back upstairs for me & ushered an anxious hubby to the front of the queue - he had been told to go back to the back each time he reached the front. We virtually went straight from check-in onto the airplane. I understand now why Carl said - 'Let me drop the bloody thing, it's just going to be a major hassle otherwise!'

Here is what it says on the Turkish Embassy site in America - the actual Turkish site I found was more specific.
Don't try & bring in anything unless you can put it in a suitcase - it;s a major hassle!
Take a look at the last item too - do you have yours?

On Entry
The following items may be brought into the country duty free
personal effects of the tourist.
one TV, one colour pocket TV (maximum 16 cm screen), one TV-tape-radio combination, one video recording camera and 5 video cassettes (blank); 5 records, 5 tape cassettes or compact discs.
one video player, cine-projector (8 mm) and 10 rolls of film (blank), one slide projector.
one pocket computer (maximum main memory capacity Ram 128k. Byte), electronic playing devices (without cassette - keyboard).
one transistor radio and portable radio - tape player (its specification to be determined by the Ministry of Finance and Customs), one Walkman or pocket tape recorder, one portable compact disc player.
Binoculars (one pair, except night binoculars)
harmonica, mandolin, flageole, flute, guitar, and accordion (only one of each type, maximum 3 musical instruments).
personal sports equipment.
necessary medical items.
bicycle, baby buggy, toys.
200 cigarettes and 50 cigars.
200 grams of tobacco and 200 cigarette papers, or 50 grams of chewing tobacco or 200 grams of pipe tobacco, or 200 grams of snuff
(In addition to the above allowances, it is possible to purchase 400 cigarettes, 100 cigars, and 500 grams of pipe tobacco from the Turkish Duty Free Shops upon entering the country).
1.5kg. coffee, 1.5kg. instant coffee, 500 grams of tea.
1 kilo chocolate and 1 kilo sweets.
5 (100 cc) or 7 (70 cc) bottles of wines and/or spirits.
five bottles of perfume (120 ml max. each).
one portable typewriter.
one camera with 5 rolls of film.
First aid, and spare parts for the car.
Other items necessary during the journey.
Valuable items and all items with a value of over $ 15,000 must be registered in the owner's passport upon entering Turkey, for control upon exit.
Antiques brought into the country must be registered in the owner's passport to avoid difficulties on exit.
Sharp instruments (including camping knives) and weapons may not be brought into the country without special permission.
The bringing into the country, trade, and consumption of marijuana and all other narcotics is strictly forbidden and subject to heavy punishment.
Gifts, not exceeding 500 DM in value and not for trading purposes, may be brought into the country duty free. In addition, gifts not exceeding 500 OM in value may be posted to Turkey duty free, if the date stamped by the sending post office falls one month before, or one month after the following holidays: Seker Bayrami, Kurban Bayrami, Christmas, and New Year's.
Note: Cellular Telephones entering the country must be accompanied by a certification form showing ownership. Ownership must be documented in the passport of the owner and will be checked on entry and exit. For more information contact the Ministry of Transportation, General Directorate at Tel: (312) 212 35 72 - 212 60 10 (10 lines), Fax: (312) 221 32 26 or write to Ulastirma Bakanligi Telsiz Gn. Md. Emek - Ankara.


Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: haluk on June 28, 2006, 17:20:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tribalelder

Bandarol Fees:
TV  120-380 Euros depending on screen size
DVD   180 Euros
Hi Fi  180 Euros
Satelite system 300 Euros
VCR 70 Euros
Radio 50 Euros
In a lot of cases it is not worth the cost depending on the value of your equipment of course. smaller items could come in your luggage. ;) A new DVD here is probbly much less than the Bandarol to import yours! :)




Just a few corrections.
Color television
upto 51cm screen.......................€55
52-67cm screen.........................€85
68-85cm screen.........................€100
86-116cm screen........................€120
117cm and over.........................€150
car television.........................€85

B&W television (if they still exist)
upto 51cm..............................€25
52cm and over..........................€30
car TV.................................€30

Video*, DVD player* or Video camera* (*capable of recieving TV signals)
€180

TV Video combination...................€195

satelitte receiver.....................€70

FM tuner card (in a PC)................€10
TV tuner card..........................€15

Stereo systems

radio cassete..........................€50
radio cassete CD.......................€180
radio cassete CD record player.........€180
radio CD...............................€71

*recorders only. If they are players only and can not receive TV waves then there is no bandrol.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: tribalelder on June 28, 2006, 20:01:52 PM
Thanks for the update Haluk....I expect when the subject crops up next time it will have changed again. :)
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: tytots on June 29, 2006, 11:29:20 AM
This month we found on passing through customs at Dalalman every one with a cardboard box was asked to open them, this was at 0600hrs. It has never happened to us before, looks like customs are keeping an eye out for electrical stuff. The toy boat got the nod, but the bread maker had a good inspection even though I can't get BBC on it. Elaine
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on June 29, 2006, 19:09:39 PM
Elaine,
Did they charge for the Bread maker? It's one of the items I was thinking of taking out?
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: mercury on June 29, 2006, 21:15:43 PM
Breadmaker? at 20 pence a loaf. Is it worth making your own?
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: stoop on June 29, 2006, 22:21:55 PM
Send me an e-mail. I have a friend who has just moved to Uzumlu and is still a partner in a UK removal company. He is not only moving his own goods across as we speak but has been doing so for others for quite a few years now. I'm sure he will be able to help.

Stoop
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: kathy1951 on July 25, 2006, 14:45:02 PM
Hi everyone,
Not been on the forum for a long time, we moved and had to wait a while to get back on line.
Anybody shipping goods into Turkey will pay tax, as at that point it is a temporary import. then after two years you have to remew the import and pay more tax, again two years after that and then a year after that. If you don't renew the importation you will be fined.  What a lot of hassle. Also within the 5 year period you are not allowed to sell or get rid of anything you bring over.
We drove over, no hassle whatsoever. Nobody even wanted to look in our transit van and paid no taxes.  One big plus we had our furniture and personal effects on arrival of our new home and didn't have to wait to get residence before we could pick it up.  My advise to anyone and everyone DRIVE OVER enter at Marmaris, problem yok.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: starman on July 25, 2006, 18:59:07 PM
I wouldnt openly advise anyone to drive over with a transit van full of furniture. You only need to get one alert customs man to inspect and your buggered.
The value amount of goods for personal effects is 1500 euros for which you pay a 10% tax.
Also another thing not quite correct. When you ship goods in permanently, make sure you tell them its a permanent import and not a temporary one (Gecici kabul), a permanent import means you pay tax on the items at the rate of 18% of what the customs man deems it is worth (taking into consideration wear,tear and age) and once you pay the tax then thats it. No yearly tax, no not selling anything for 5 yrs etc. KKYOB can confirm this as his shipment was a permanent import.
If you do a temporary import then you put up a bond instead of paying tax. This bond will be tied with the 'beyanname' (customs declartion form, green and white) and has to be renewed every year or 2 years depending on the beyanname. The goods listed on the form HAVE to leave Turkey for you to get your bond back.
Temporary imports are generally only done for working expats and not touristic expats who have come here to settle and your moving company or customs agent should have been aware of that.
Also another tip, if you import used house hold goods, make sure they are used and not looking brand new. If you have something brand new then just remove the plastic etc to make it look that the box etc has been opened instead of coming right off the shelf.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on July 26, 2006, 08:02:43 AM
He's right, you know !
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on July 26, 2006, 12:29:13 PM
Well first of all thanks for all the advice it's just so helpful & confusing but we think we are wading through it. Has anyone omported a 20cubic foot container in and how much did it cost and what were your experiences like. We have been told that we have to have a residents permit first then we could well have to travel to Izmir to oversee the customs pay the taxes etc etc. Ideally we would like a company that can do all of this for us and deliver door to door. Lots of you say buy it all new but we have items that we do not want to sell at silly prices and it will help us settle in Uzumlu with some familiar household effects. As we are leaving a 2 bed apartment for a 4 bed house there will still be lots of furniture we will have to buy so this seems to be the best scenario. Any recommendations and experiences please share as I'm sure we are not the only ones facing this dilema. Thanks all
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on July 26, 2006, 13:16:05 PM
Eric,

Yes we've done it.

Get in touch with Starman, he sorted out all of ours for us.

Yes, you must have a Residence Permit but there's no need to go to Izmir to clear the import.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Eric on July 31, 2006, 09:51:54 AM
Thanks KKOB. We've now made contact with Starman so hopefully that will be the end of this thread.
Eric
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: maria on July 31, 2006, 13:36:56 PM
I have 15kg of upholstery material to get to my daughter in Fethiye any ideas on the cheapest way to get it over

Thanks

maria x
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on July 31, 2006, 14:12:36 PM
Might be worth trying to send it by post. No harm in asking at the Post Office for a price.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: cleo on August 01, 2006, 14:29:00 PM
hello, I dont often write in cos people tend to know a lot more than I do but as soon as a subject crops up that I think I can contribute something worthwhile then I will, but for now I have a question. Is it worth bringing over a computer, is it allowed and if not how much will it cost to buy over there? Thankyou
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: scream on August 07, 2006, 16:03:59 PM
hi cleo
i don't have any info how much it ll cost to bring over a computer but i can ask n let you know about a new computer as we have a repairman.I will email you as soon as i can but it wouldn't be more than £400 depending on the software and the hardware of the computer.

Regards
thomas
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Pi55y on August 08, 2006, 08:45:43 AM
Hi one more question please for all you experts on moving - do you have to have the residency sorted  before you make arrangements for the export of your stuff from UK to Turkey or can you go ahead and arrange it at the England end and then sort out residency for when it arrives in Turkey - in other words when do you need the paperwork for?  I understand that residency is taking about 8 weeks unless you go to Mugla (has anyone done the latter?) so would this timescale be about right for the move?

Thanks
Chrissie
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on August 08, 2006, 11:05:52 AM
You can ship the goods by sea, which takes about 2 weeks. In the meantime you can be in Turkey sorting out your Residency Permit. It's possible to get your permit sorted in a day if you've got the stamina for it. See Dippey's thread about it.

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Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Pi55y on August 08, 2006, 11:36:31 AM
Thanks for the quick reply KKOB. I have had a look at the thread you mentioned which is very informative but my understanding is that you still have to wait 8 or so weeks to get the residency permit through once you have done the very strenuous leg work (with a few pit stops at the local watering holes!) Or do you mean that once you have applied  for residency that the application number is sufficient for bringing your belongings into the country?

I have heard that you can fast track the residency system by going personally to Mugla and that you can then obtain your actual residency permit in a day but I am not sure how you go about this - any clues??????

Thanks Chrissie
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: kenkay on August 08, 2006, 12:17:01 PM
Hi Eric
Regarding wills we did it through the Stuart who Dippey refers to. His wife Dilek is an interpreter and her sister is the lawyer. We did it over two appointments. You need your passports, 6 extra passport photos and a visit to the Notary in Fethiye. At the latter spot we had an annoying hold up waiting for the arrival of 2 independent witnesses (arranged by the lawyer).

The cost was £70.00 each for the actual wills and 175 YTR each for the Notary fees.
We received a copy of each will. A copy is retained at the Notary in Fethiye and a further copy is sent to Ankara.
I hope this is of some use.  :)
Ken
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on August 08, 2006, 12:23:33 PM
I would never get all my worldly possessions in a transit.  I would need a Furniture Lorry, plus we live in Scotland so add 600 miles onto the journey so problem not yok for us.   Also what happened to the transit? did you keep it, I hear the Turkish authorities are very hard on vehicles brought in from abroad.
Jacqui.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on August 08, 2006, 18:08:01 PM
I applied for, and got, my permit within 10 days in Sept 2004. I paid a premium for someone to courier the papers to and from Mugla for me. I'm not sure exactly how it works now.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: stuart on August 12, 2006, 05:15:59 AM
thanks for the good words ken, sorry about the wait for the witnesses, they were let down when the turkish syndrome kicked in!! my wifes and sisters legal company has been busy lately with wills as more and more people realize how important it is to have a turkish will to cover thier turkish properties.british wills do not have any durestriction over turkish estates and the inheritance laws are very different over here, for example a  man and wife with a jointly owned property and no other living relatives would expect the property to become thiers automatically on one or the others demise, however this is not the case and would have to go to the courts and proved to a judge that there were no  other living relatives with a right to the property, done through uk death certificates etc. the whole proceedure would take a very long time causing a lot of unnecessary stress at a time of berievement.
the other thing worth mentioning they are doing a free legal questions and answers section in the www.fethiye.com which may be of some use to  the readers here.
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: KKOB on August 12, 2006, 06:42:07 AM
You sure that link is correct?
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: tribalelder on August 12, 2006, 07:28:27 AM
I think it should be www.fethiyetimes.org.uk :)
Title: wills & removal companies
Post by: stuart on August 15, 2006, 04:07:55 AM
your right, sorry!!