i can see what you mean stoop, but all anyone has to do is remove any thing from programs and features, restart then do a complete registry scan with your new security software. if its a good security software it will completely remove everything, but i notice you say you now have free software, dont forget you get what you want if you pay for it, this doesnt of course mean mcafee is no good because i havent tried it, but if it works for you thats all that matters, but the main point is, as you say,everybody should have some computer protection, it is their choice.[^]