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Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 21, 2008, 21:48:39 PM: I couldn't really explain the subject in the title box :-\

What I mean is, players who arrived on the scene that looked like they would have a sensational career, but just didn't make it big.

To "kick off"...

Danny Cadermarteri - seemed to be the coming of something special as an Everton youngster, then just slowly faded away.

John Harley - I thought he had it all when he started at Chelsea - where is he now [:o]

Any others?
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: puma on February 21, 2008, 22:35:29 PM: daniel le coko tranmere rovers
still at school till he grows bigger
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: laffa on February 21, 2008, 22:57:41 PM: :)Harry bloody Kewell, Djibriel Cisse,Wayne Rooneys younger brother. Ronaldo. :o ;)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on February 21, 2008, 23:07:24 PM: quote:
Originally posted by laffa

:)Harry bloody Kewell ;)

Sorry Moe but your team ripped Leeds off for him and what goes round comes round.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on February 21, 2008, 23:11:19 PM: Peter Marinello - Was supposed to be the new George Best.

Mo Johnston

Steve Daley

Tony Yeboah

Tomas Brolin
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 21, 2008, 23:22:24 PM: In fairness Brolin was till he came to Leeds :)

Mike Marsh - how's that for a career that continually spiralled downwards...
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: laffa on February 22, 2008, 00:09:27 AM: :) Stan Collymore, what a tripe hound he turned out to be, ;)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 22, 2008, 00:13:34 AM: No no no

Players who started out with great promise but didn't deliver - not players with a good reputation who failed to keep it up at a new club.

Oh bugger it, have it your way :D
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: ColinT on February 22, 2008, 08:04:05 AM: Francis Jeffers. Great at Everton, flopped at Arsenal, and now at Sheffield Wednesday
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: tan n dame on February 22, 2008, 18:54:22 PM: stephen hughes who started his career at arsenal big things expected then sold. not sure where he's now[?]
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Ian on February 22, 2008, 19:09:28 PM: What about Mark Kennedy at Liverpool?

I think he was the most expensive teenager ever when he signed but has been a "journeyman" ever since.

Saw him for a couple of years at Man City and on his day - brilliant - BUT - like lots of wingers he had too many games where he didn't fancy it.

I 've seen so many wingers who seem to be beaten before the game kicks off because they don't fancy themselves against the full back - it just makes you realise how much confidence makes in the mix.

Ian :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 22, 2008, 19:43:33 PM: Jody Morris [:o]
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: barry44544 on February 22, 2008, 21:46:41 PM: jose reyes..! till he left his shins on garry neville's boots in the big 50 game..!
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Steve B on February 22, 2008, 22:54:18 PM: Jimmy Muir, what a player he was. Came from nowhere into the Sheff United side and scord the winner in the final. Never head from him since.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: kanga on February 22, 2008, 23:07:11 PM: nil lamptey ,"the new me as pele said"
aston villa ,coventry city ,nowheretobeseen fc
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Steve B on February 22, 2008, 23:12:32 PM: I love that about the British. A player turns on a six pence or shows a turn of pace and we compare them to greats. 'The new Pele...Best...Moore...
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 22, 2008, 23:16:44 PM: Sergei Rebrov, Bosko Balaban, Alberto Tarantini, Nikki Jovanovic, Kleberson, Eric Djemba-Djemba, JFK, Blown Away, what more do I have to say
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: kanga on February 22, 2008, 23:18:21 PM: oooooh harold bratbak anothe one
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Steve B on February 22, 2008, 23:24:10 PM: Alberto Tarantini came to my club (Birmingham) in the late 70's.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on February 22, 2008, 23:33:33 PM: Unfortunately, he stayed.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: kanga on February 22, 2008, 23:39:45 PM: now he owns the catering franchise at bcfc training ground
this is pasta joke
kanga
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Steve B on February 22, 2008, 23:42:43 PM: http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,350455,00.html
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: kanga on February 22, 2008, 23:51:27 PM: very good some names we forgot
only 2 played for rangers out of ten ha ha
up the hoops
kanga
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: stoop on February 23, 2008, 10:41:43 AM: Tomas Brolin - I forgot about him!!

In Euro 92, England fell to a superb goal from a hugely promising young Swedish striker. Eight years on, the scorer, now a vacuum-cleaner salesman based in Stockholm, could only reflect on a career which went grindingly wrong. Tomas Brolin at his peak was graceful, skillful and captivating. Past it, he was one of the most limited players in world football. The decline set in soon after Euro 92, but apparently went unnoticed by then Leeds boss George Graham, who paid Parma £4.5m for him in 1995. When Brolin arrived looking like Keith Chegwin's tubby twin, Graham was panic-stricken. Brolin made just 19 appearances in two years before his career collapsed amidst a series of training ground walk-outs and dietary rumours. Leeds paid out the remainder of his contract. He returned to England for a final Premiership fling at Crystal Palace in 1998, but, after 13 appearances, was deemed too fat to play, and made assistant manager to Attilio Lombardo when Steve Coppell was moved aside. Palace were instantly relegated - Brolin hasn't been seen in this country since.

He opend the Ikea in Leeds though so he did something for the city (I think).
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Highlander on March 03, 2008, 21:51:12 PM: Paul McStay of Celtic

Club Appearances 678 Goals 72 in a mediocre league defensively

Scotland Appearances 76 Goals 9
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on March 03, 2008, 22:34:12 PM: Tommy Caton

He made his debut for City aged 16, and became a regular in the City side, playing in the 1981 FA Cup final, when still only 18 years old.

Sadly , he died at the age of 30, never having fully fulfilled his early potential.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: ronzk1 on March 18, 2008, 15:40:56 PM: Wot about Tommy Graveson, Real Madrid, Celtic,( blue chip signing they claimed at parkhead) loan out to Everton reserves, back to Celtic reserves soon for his £35000 a week, what a hoot!!!
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: ronzeus on March 18, 2008, 17:45:59 PM: Keith,how can you mention Jody Morris,a player at his peak now playing for a top team.

St Johnstone : :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on March 18, 2008, 18:00:01 PM: My point exactly Ronaldo :D

Which brings me onto something related that I was actually thinking about today.

I remember watching A Scottish League Cup final on Sky a few years back, only because the mighty St. Johnstone were playing Rangers. There was a St. Johnstone player called George O'Boyle who was simply sensational for the whole game. I recall thinking that he wouldn't be there very long and would be heading to Celtic, Rangers or a Premiership club - yes, all based on what I saw in 90 minutes but it was a fantastic 90 minutes.

Thinking of this topic today, I wondered what happened to Mr. O'Boyle. Resaearch shows he was caught by St. Johnstone staff taking cocaine in a nightclub toilet at the Christmas party and was sacked. From there he fell deeper into the Scottish league with short stays and no more than a handful of appearances at the likes of Brechin and Queen of the South, before returning to his native Northern Ireland with Glenavon. From there his career plummeted even further in minor leagues.

A tragic waste of an unmistakable great talent.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: tinkerman on March 18, 2008, 18:03:39 PM: Didn't he become Boy George?

Tinx ;)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on March 18, 2008, 18:06:01 PM: Chelsea fans, no idea about football whatsoever ;)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on March 18, 2008, 18:22:48 PM: quote:
Originally posted by tinkerman

Didn't he become Boy George?

Tinx ;)

No Tinx, he was born Mary O'Hairy :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: tinkerman on March 18, 2008, 18:31:35 PM: Who was Boy George then?
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on March 18, 2008, 21:21:38 PM: quote:
Originally posted by tinkerman

Who was Boy George then?

Ah, he wore a frock and was in the A team! :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: ronzeus on March 19, 2008, 14:49:28 PM: After taking the wee wee out of Jody Morris only yesterday ,last night he apparently played a blinder for St Johnstone in beating St Mirren in the quarter final of the Scottish cup.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: JohnF on March 19, 2008, 16:00:56 PM: quote:
Originally posted by Highlander

Paul McStay of Celtic

Club Appearances 678 Goals 72 in a mediocre league defensively

Scotland Appearances 76 Goals 9

Paul McStay, you're kidding aren't you?

JF
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Jukebox on March 19, 2008, 17:03:07 PM: quote:
Originally posted by ronzeus

After taking the wee wee out of Jody Morris only yesterday ,last night he apparently played a blinder for St Johnstone in beating St Mirren in the quarter final of the Scottish cup.

It would have been more in line with his original potential if he'd have played a blinder in the Champions league or something similar for Chelski in the Premiership.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on September 01, 2010, 16:59:55 PM: I did a search to find this topic again - on the subject of players who burst onto the scene then faded down the leagues and gone - after reading that one time Aston Villa's young sensation Lee Hendrie is without a club now after being released by Derby - training with Reading hoping to be offered something.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: scorcher on September 01, 2010, 17:47:10 PM: Biscuit?
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: stoop on September 01, 2010, 17:48:21 PM: Anton Ferdinand. Does he count? Still at Blunderland but they did want rid. No takers evidently.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: maximumtom on September 01, 2010, 18:11:07 PM: Brian Clough. Most of his goals were scored in the old second division and he got crocked before he had a real chance to shine in the first.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: BM06 on September 01, 2010, 18:13:34 PM: quote:
Originally posted by Scunner

I did a search to find this topic again - on the subject of players who burst onto the scene then faded down the leagues and gone - after reading that one time Aston Villa's young sensation Lee Hendrie is without a club now after being released by Derby - training with Reading hoping to be offered something.
Yes Keith he was on soccer am on Saturday, I found that a strange outcome for such a quality young player, Helen Chamberlin phoned the Torquay manager live on air to get him a trial/game :o ;)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on September 01, 2010, 18:35:05 PM: quote:
Originally posted by maximumtom

Brian Clough. Most of his goals were scored in the old second division and he got crocked before he had a real chance to shine in the first.

Tom

Players who came in at the top and faded away. I think your suggestion is exactly the opposite to that :D
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: maximumtom on September 01, 2010, 20:04:20 PM: With respect Keith, the caption was " Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't". With his scoring record behind him, Brian could have had a huge future in the first division if he hadn't had his serious injury.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on September 01, 2010, 20:07:50 PM: Ok Tom you are technically correct :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Ian on September 01, 2010, 22:07:34 PM: Vinny Samways :D
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on September 01, 2010, 22:32:59 PM: I saw Vinny Samways in Las Palmas! Not many British players end up playing there :)
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: javacoffee on September 05, 2010, 16:27:40 PM: Gary Birtles, Liam Millar, Kleberson!
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: tinkerman on September 05, 2010, 17:41:17 PM: is Rooney the new Emile heskey??
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: karaokemark on September 05, 2010, 18:44:17 PM: quote:
Originally posted by tinkerman

is Rooney the new Emile heskey??

No the new lampard, there can be no place for lampard with rooney having a free role and running the show
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Scunner on September 05, 2010, 19:36:02 PM: quote:
Originally posted by javacoffee

Gary Birtles, Liam Millar, Kleberson!

That appears to be a dig at Sir Alex (the last two) - so why not chuck in Eric Djemba Djemba, Veron, Silvestre, Roy Carroll, Poborsky, Prunier (remember him??!!), and the goalkeepers who's careers he ruined by making them scared to death of making a mistake - Taibi, Bosnich...

But on the other hand - forgetting the self reared stars like Scholes, Giggs, Beckham etc - some amazing (and cheap) signings like Stam, Evra and Solskjaer. But nothing ever will come close to the greatest signing of all time - £530,000 for Peter Schmeical. Even Arsene Wenger can't beat that.
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: Ian on September 05, 2010, 20:26:06 PM: Irwin from my team Oldham was a close second!!!!!
Title: Players Who Had a Huge Future - Then Didn't
Post by: javacoffee on September 06, 2010, 12:49:08 PM: Evra and Vidic had a nightmare first six months, I remember Alan ' I hate Utd' Green.' Saying on the radio that Fergie had lost the plot as these two were terrible buys! I have to disagree with Veron and Silvestre. Veron should have stayed another year and Silvestre, although not a superstar was a very reliable defender for us.

Irwin was also a fantastic buy for Utd, I remember Schmeical's debut, he just looked HUGE compared to poor old Jim Leighton. Owen is the latest cheap buy, that goal against City last season was worth a years wages, his not mine.