Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Hisaronu Discussion Forum => Topic started by: kamelia on July 26, 2013, 13:09:37 PM
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Guy does anybody know ow do they clean their water, can we drink water from the tub?
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Is this the bath tub, the hot tub or the washing up tub?
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Eric, some new members do not speak English as their first language. I think they do remarkably well.
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Most likely a " colloquial" expression for "Tap", if that IS the case, & Kamelia means is it "safe", the answer is YES. Loz & I fill our 19 litre bottles for the water chiller from the tap when in Turkey.
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thanks guys, for replies and correctuion, yes not everybody here from England, I am from Russia and we have very good tap water, that is why i was wondering if in Turkey they have as pure water as we in our country. Thanks for replies
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Hi Kamelia. Although tap water in Turkey is free of bacteria it is full of minerals which can upset people. Most people use bottle water for drinking.
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Strangely in her (removed) advert selling puppies for £300 each, she says she has lived here for five years. Long enough not to have to ask this question I think.
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yes is this forbidden to ask this question? Or can i not in five years time question their water?
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You asked numerous questions that you had no interest in, or knew the answers to, specifically to be able to post the advert. Now I have all that waffle to edit/delete. Please leave it now.
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no problem you put the rules i will try to follow them exactly
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We have a brita water filter on hand for if the bottled runs out.
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Well I'm grateful at least for Kamelia asking this question :D
Although from the answers, I'm not still sure.
I have never (knowingly) drunk tap water in Turkey, always buying bottled water. However, I am trying very hard to move away from contributing to the plastic bottle mountain.
So some of you use the tap water, some use filters, some still buy bottled. As someone who is likely to be living out there for the majority of the year, I would be grateful for more responses if possible please. (Although I have to say Loz and GordonA seem to be in rude health, so I'm inclined to use the tap).
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Hi Kamelia. Although tap water in Turkey is free of bacteria it is full of minerals which can upset people. Most people use bottle water for drinking.
Hillside is spot on - there is a growing industry in the region of companies providing fixed water filters due to the amount of minerals in the water - hence the reason that Fethiye & Calis have more dialysis centres than you would think.
I met a chap who was in this business (didn't buy anything from him) but he told me his business had doubled year on year for 3 years due to demand from locals.
We use the 19 ltr bottles but there was a government report about 6 months ago stating that 3 or 4 biggish companies had been fined for filling these from the tap - a la Peckham Spring :-)
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When we first came to Fethiye in 2008, we used tap water but after a couple of months the water started to taste very strongly of chlorine, in fact you could smell it when filling the kettle. Since then we have used the 19 litre bottles of water As Ian says there is a plethora of Dialysis Units in and around Calis and we see bottled water being delivered to all the locals around us. I think that tells a story. :)
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Gar2 lokanta (opposite the Fethiye otogar) fill their water jugs from a wall tap on the outside of the building.
We've always drunk it and never had a problem :)
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The tap water in Bristol often smells of chlorine (it comes from the Sharpness Canal). We put it into a jug to stand overnight in the fridge and then it is fine for drinking - actually tastes nice. Last week a Water Board official called round to test the water and I asked him about this. He said it takes about 12 hours for all traces of chlorine to evaporate after coming out of the tap. Unfortunately his test discovered that our old lead pipes give us 3 times the new acceptable lead level. Well I'm not chopping down our front garden tree to dig a trench to the pavement and lay new pipes, so we'll just have to be poisoned and die. This will probably take thirty years.
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Very interesting Colwyn, I'll try that when we are back in the UK.
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Wow! Scary stuff, all this talk of kidney dialysis!
19/16 litre bottles it is then. So can you guys recommend a reliable supplier that doesn't fill them from the tap? ???
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As bottled water is so cheap, why take a chance with your health? Kidney disease does not show up until it's too late in most cases. We never use tap water when we are over after reading in the local press that the Fethiye area has the highest incidence of Kidney Disease (particularly stones ) than anywhere else in Turkey due to the high mineral contents of the water. This is why the local hospitals are so geared up for kidney problems.
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I drank the tap water freely here for 3 years with no ill effects, only stopped because in summer the water would leave the tap pretty warm and tasting bad. So now we use a water dispenser. The water here is softer than we lived with in Essex and London. One thing intrigues me. I cant find info on water and its effects on kidney disease. What I mean is, the direct connection between mineralised water and the need for dialysis. I would be very interested to see any information, or is this an urban myth? This IS a genuine question.
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i even make the ice cubes from the waterdispenser not taking any chances :)
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A bit of rudimentary research shows that Fethiye water is high in calcium - compacted calcium is what kidney stones are made of.
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I have done research that says that water hardness and kidney stones aren't linked. Also, I think, though may be wrong, that dialysis isnt needed for Kidney stones. So we are possibly talking 2 different scenarios anyway. So. I am asking can anyone provide an internet link to medical proof that there is a link between water hardness and kidney disease needing dialysis. However, I HAVE found information about the link between Diabetes and kidney disease......
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I couldn't find anything, Rindaloo.
I'm probably using the wrong search terms, or it may be as you say there is no link researched yet between drinking water and kidney problems.
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This is what the British Association of Urological Surgeons has to say about the subject:
Are stones caused by hard water?
No. The calcium & magnesium salts which result in "hard" water are not usually absorbed to any significant degree and do not, therefore, play a part in stone formation.
Unfortunately, people have been known to suffer from kidney stones for thousands of years, all over the world and local water issues have no bearing on this.
Drinking tap water is the best way to reduce your risk of further stone formation. Many people drink mineral or spring waters, in the belief that these are healthier. Whilst some are, indeed, low in mineral content, some contain higher levels of calcium and magnesium than tap water (together with other potentially harmful chemicals) in a form which can be absorbed and may not, therefore, be suitable for patients with stones.
A water softener is unnecessary because, although it supplies you with soft water for washing & bathing, your drinking supply (usually the cold tap in your kitchen) is not connected to the softener. It is, therefore, of no benefit in preventing stone recurrence.
http://www.baus.org.uk/Sections/endourology/pag/FAQ_hardness (http://www.baus.org.uk/Sections/endourology/pag/FAQ_hardness)
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I wonder why there is so many people in the area with stones? There must be a reason for the high incidence of this condition? There must also be a reason why it was in the local press about the water not being good.
However, as folk who lives in an area of Scotland with very soft water, We don't need to de-scale the kettle, dishwasher or washing machine. I suppose we have been spoilt because I have been to London and other areas of England and the water there tastes terrible. I remember when we lived in Liverpool we always had to de-scale the kettle because the water was so hard.
We will not be drinking the local water in Calis or making ice cubes of it. We don't like the taste of the water, it's horrible, so will continue with the bottle water.
It's up to everyone to make their own decision but wild horses would not persuade us to drink the local water.
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Personally, I think its more of a taste preference, when we first came to turkey many years ago, we hated the taste and used bottled water all the time, now I use the tap water boiled for tea and coffee and cooking etc, but prefer the bottled water from the cooler for drinking. when I go back to the U K, I think the water tastes strange in tea and coffee, so as I say its down to taste I believe. :) ps, the only other water ive ever had a problem with anywhere is the falling down water. ;) :D
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I was reading about Kidney stones Jacqui and one reason you can have them is because of dehydration. And, considering the heat here, it might well be as simple as people not drinking enough(water, that is.... :P ).
But, as I said, the kidney dialysis is possibly more to do with Diabetes.
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Without wanting to "sensationalise" this thread - the man I spoke at length to was telling me that one of the problems in the area was higher than average levels of chrome and other minerals / metals in the water - filtering through the Taurus mountains.
This not only led to kidney problems but other health issues - including cancer.
Now he would do wouldn't he as he is in the business of selling water filtration systems.
If I pass his business again (it is above the shop who make name plates on adnan menderes bulvari - near kipa and we spoke at length as he interpreted for me as I waited for my door name plate to be engraved) - I will get the name / website as it contained all the details of the high level minerals / names etc.
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Well Rindi, I will still use bottled water, but as Des says, it's taste and was to us when we first came to Calis and had not heard about kidney trouble.. : :)
Incidentally, nice to meet you last month.. ;D
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All very interesting. And such a Modern First World Problem don't you think?
Thanks everyone.
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Our water does tast good but I get tired with it. As such a packet of Tang in a 1.5 ltr bottle and keep it in the fridge.
We top up our big water bottle from the tap and have been for the last year. No difference in taste. (Water cooler bottle)
Also we make our ice(and we use a lot) from the tap water but not from ice cube trays but from a 1 ltr plastic basin. When frozen we bash it with a roller.
A point to consider. When the ice melts the calcium comes out of suspension as it also does if you keep the same glass and just keep topping it up.
Important: Smell the tap water before using it as they will add chlorine if they have a pipe break.
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My neighbour in Hisaronu, a Turkish guy in his eighties gets his water from a spring.
He climbs his fruit trees to prune them (without a ladder),chases his chickens round
to get them in the shed and I sometimes meet him two or three miles up in the forest
on his walks.So his drinking water is obviously not harming him.
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Point very much taken Kevin3!
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For the first 3 years living here we used tap water for everything, then 2 years ago i ended up at the Esnaf
with kidney stones, the same pain that you get in advanced labour so I am told. The Dr. Said it was because of the calcium in the water, after treatment to dissolve them I have always used bottled water.
Unless you enjoy advanced labour pains and begging for morphine stick to bottled water.
Mark
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Mark, hand on heart, -could it be that you simply didn't drink enough water?? ;)
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Whist we happily drank the tap water in Calis, we found the water in Uzumlu unpalatable. It appeared to come from the tap with a sort of white residue floating in it. Taste wise , it was fine.
The water available from the public fountains was clear though.
In the end, we used tap water for hot drinks only.
Is there a particular issue in Uzumlu ?
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Sue I dont know if there's an issue with the water in Uzumlu. I believe that the water comes from the direction of Oren, but would be interested to know if that is right. What I mean is, I dont think its pumped up from Fethiye. There is a chrome mine by the road near the Urantas turning on the road out of Uzumlu, heading for Fethiye. I dont know how far reaching the chrome is in the greater Fethiye area, but found this on the net http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/f/What-Are-The-Health-Risks-Associated-With-Chromium-6.htm Seems chromium-6 can cause cancer. But I dont know if the chrome found in the terrain here IS chromium-6.
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Excellent research, Rindaloo.
Going to pass this thread on to my other half to read - he's a chemist.
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how strange my son was taken to hospital tonight with kidneys stones he was in terrible pain ,he as had a few times so knew what it was. waiting to hear how he is
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This Forum really IS infectious Puma.
Best wishes to your son. :)
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sed to be a chrome train on Calis beach from what I remember. Must be some residue.
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I hope your son is OK now, Puma. What advice did the hospital give him? Is this in the UK. I feel sure that drinking more water is the key to Kidney stones, but would be interested to know what the hospital says.
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Whist we happily drank the tap water in Calis, we found the water in Uzumlu unpalatable. It appeared to come from the tap with a sort of white residue floating in it. Taste wise , it was fine.
The water available from the public fountains was clear though.
In the end, we used tap water for hot drinks only.
Is there a particular issue in Uzumlu ?
I don't think so in the hot weather I drink at least 3 litres a day, but it is easy to forget to drink enough in the winter, I am a wus and don't like pain so won't risk it again, we use tap water for cooking cleaning teeth ice etc. just don't use it for drinks.
Mark
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Hi Rindaloo - I have had to be admitted to hospital twice in the last 20 years with kidney stones - as Mark says it can be very painful - the first time the girls in the office said "one minute you were sat at your desk and the next time we looked you were under it!" - I had passed out :-)
Anyway - the second time I was taken in during the night - it tends to be worse when you are lying down - and after passing the stones over the next couple of days I had a consultation and basically the specialist said "you don't drink alcohol, you don't like water or any type of liquid unless you are thirsty? This is self inflicted - in our climate (UK) you must drink a minimum of 6-8 glasses of water per day and in hotter climates one glass of water for every 10 degrees c each day - I.e 100 degrees = 10 glasses of water - if you don't you will be back again!" - hope that helps? :)
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Thanks Ian, that sounds horrendous!!!! My husband had kidney stones once (and was very lucky that it didn't cause much trouble) and I am certain it was caused by the fact he wasn't drinking enough water. Luckily it's not recurred. The main reason I was asking about this is that there seems to be an assumption that the water, here in Turkey, causes kidney stones and leads to the need for dialysis and I am just wondering if the stones are more likely to be caused by people not drinking enough and the dialysis is connected to diabetes causing kidney damage.
If we can learn something that will help with our health, then great. I know I can be naughty with not drinking enough. But I do try.
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Personally I think - the kidney stones are a different issue to kidney disease. The stones are generally caused by 2 things - a propensity to develop stones in your particular urinary system and not drinking enough water. You can't do anything about the first point - its in the genes :-) - but you can help yourself by drinking more water.
I think kidney disease and other more serious issues MAY have some connection to minerals / metals in the water if it comes from unfiltered / unregulated sources particularly for those who have not got sufficient immunity in their systems. But who knows........?............?
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Sue I dont know if there's an issue with the water in Uzumlu. I believe that the water comes from the direction of Oren, but would be interested to know if that is right. What I mean is, I dont think its pumped up from Fethiye. There is a chrome mine by the road near the Urantas turning on the road out of Uzumlu, heading for Fethiye. I dont know how far reaching the chrome is in the greater Fethiye area, but found this on the net http://environment.about.com/od/healthenvironment/f/What-Are-The-Health-Risks-Associated-With-Chromium-6.htm Seems chromium-6 can cause cancer. But I dont know if the chrome found in the terrain here IS chromium-6.
Thanks Rindaloo. It seems there is enough doubt on here to make me more wary of the water than I was.
If we do a permanent move, we would probably use a mixture of bottled and tap , rather than exclusively tap.
Me and Sue
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Whist we happily drank the tap water in Calis, we found the water in Uzumlu unpalatable. It appeared to come from the tap with a sort of white residue floating in it. Taste wise , it was fine.
The water available from the public fountains was clear though.
In the end, we used tap water for hot drinks only.
Is there a particular issue in Uzumlu ?
I don't think so in the hot weather I drink at least 3 litres a day, but it is easy to forget to drink enough in the winter, I am a wus and don't like pain so won't risk it again, we use tap water for cooking cleaning teeth ice etc. just don't use it for drinks.
Mark
Cheers mark