Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: mercury on December 26, 2013, 18:06:16 PM
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As most of you know I spent 5 years on The 3cs committee and continue to give them my full support.. We also donate to Children in Need and every major disaster.. We also give to our local hospice and will be holding a coffee morning for The children's hospice her. However, this afternoon alone on ITV 3 we had 3 charities one after the other in between every programme.. This is our first Xmas in England..Is it normal for this barage every year.. I do appreciate the need for donations and I am not heartless but this constant asking for money gets very wearing.. Is it just me?? The only ones that tug my heart strings are the NSPCC ones but my friend used to donate £5 per month until after 3 months she was asked to increase this to either £15 or £25 per month...
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I only support the local Calis and Fethiye charities. I have never donated to Children in Need, Comic Relief etc and apart from the odd weak moment when someone catches me offguard with a tin or the like, no others.
I do not think my money gets used enough for what I gave it for and don't want £7 of my tenner to go to admin costs and paying off local tribal leaders. I have seen the local charities at work over there and I know that all of my tenner gets exchanged into good and needed things. That is just what I want and what I believe I get.
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As an owner of racing greyhounds, I support the Retired Greyhound Trust, I give every month to the PDSA, and Cancer Research UK, I also support the local hospice, give a donation to Help the Heroes, and do my small bit for the 3 C's and Animal Aid in Calis. BUT I have to harden my heart to all the other appeals that are everywhere on the t.v especially at this time of the year. I will not allow myself to be blackmailed by the look of a sad child drinking polluted water, or any of the other charities meant to tug at your hear strings. There is the danger of spreading yourself too thinly, and as Scunner says some of the charities spend a good proportion of our donations on admin. and advertising, it makes me wonder how much reaches its meant for, destination!
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I support UNICEF, Shelter, Red Cross and until very recently The Salvation Army, with a regular monthly donation.
I along with my Mum and Dad also contribute clothing and foodstuffs to a local charity for the homeless called Shilohs. We can see the work this organisation do and speak to the clients that are helped by them. Some of the clients they have helped have been able to re-start their lives and are now regular volunteers themselves at the centre.
The family, including my brother, also sponsor a child/teenager each in Uganda. This is through my friend Phil's charity, and I know that all the money goes to the people he helps in the villages around Mbale.
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I think the answer to this is to give with your heart, if you want to support in far off places, where you know your money will help, then so be it. We cannot all help every good cause going, so its up to every individual to choose who you want to give your money to.
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We support lots of Charities in the U.K. Including the Lifeboats and Cancer Research, the only one we support abroad is the 3C's. Again, because we know exactly where the money goes.
Only today we were saying that 40 years ago the same adverts where on T.V. for starving children in Africa and nothing seems to change. Hundreds of children keep on being born when their parents are in the most terrible circumstances.
When my husband was a Junior Engineer on the African run, his ship took out two ambulances that had been donated by children through the T.V. programme Blue Peter. One month later a sister ship called into the same Port and there were two skeleton shapes on the quay, they where what was left of the ambulances. They had never moved from the quay and had been totally stripped down to the bare metal.
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It's not just the tv though. You can't do a food shop here in Glasgow without someone rattling a tin in your direction. The city centre is worse.
Whilst I agree much help is needed for many great causes, to feel 'obliged' to donate is now becoming tiresome.
Each of us have a charity that for some reason or another is close to our hearts but there just never seems to be enough. Perhaps it's time to get rid of the top brass, leaflet drops and advertising and spend our monies where it's needed most.
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I support a children's charity with a monthly donation. I was called one morning and their immediate spill was to tell.me about Paul a homeless boy. They went into deep detail, then when I said I wouldn't be upping my monthly contribution they started with another about Kim! Obviously to try and make me feel guilty! I said if I ever had a phone call like this from them again I would stop my monthly donation!!! I have quite a few similar calls from other charities! Playing the guilt trip game is very wrong in my opinion!
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….I do not think my money gets used enough for what I gave it for and don't want £7 of my tenner to go to admin costs and paying off local tribal leaders. I have seen the local charities at work over there and I know that all of my tenner gets exchanged into good and needed things. That is just what I want and what I believe I get.
The chief execs and fundraisers over here for the big "charities" don't work for nothing either and I don't want to pay for them. 3C's is what charity is all about and it's the people involved that set such a good example that makes me want to support. There are good causes closer to home but you are right - just can't be sure of where your money is going.
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It's just the one after the other and the constant barrage.. I hope they get the advertising free as that doesn't come cheap on TV.. I personally think that the constant advertising creates an adverse effect because people get sick up to the back teeth with them so decide to donate to none of them..
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I remember a few years ago a tv programme about some of the multi-million pound charities. One of the directors of one of those charities admitted that they do not really want to solve the problems as it meant that he would be out of a job.
Another point is that the RSPCA are forever asking for donations....and yet they had millions of pounds in an Icelandic bank that went bust...so how can it justify begging on tv knowing it had money just sitting there making interest?
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Just watched an advert ask for £4.00 per month to help an Indian child who may become a Doctor one day. The U.K. give two million pounds in aid to India. India one of the fastest growing economies in the world. A country who now have their own space programme.
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The U.K. give two million pounds in aid to India.
If only - £227 million in 2013!
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And 280 million in 2012
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Sorry my mistake I did mean 200 million but see it's even more. I also watched an advert with Paul O'Grady asking for money for children in the U.K. who are starving, so why not transfer the 227 million we send to India to our own starving children??? If they can afford a Space Programme, the Indian Government should be feeding their own children. :o >:(
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Totally agree, charity should and must begin at home. If there are starving children, and elderly people who cannot heat their homes, here in the UK, we should look after them first. Anything over can be distributed among the many needy people abroad, but we all know its all political, sucking up to governments who don't need the money, to make overseas trading partners.
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Agree with you Jacqui. India has, in the last few years the highest number of millionaires, but sorry to say they mostly avoid paying tax.
As for our 'great' country, I never thought that we would see the likes of food banks being a part of some peoples everyday life. What next? Maybe this government will bring back the workhouses.
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I'm just totally gobsmacked at some of the hypocrisy on here....We are so blessed that we do not have to rely on the charity of others just to survive!!! I'm more offended by the payday loan adverts than the request for little more than the cost of a bottle of gin to help the disadvantaged and abused elsewhere.
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What are you on about?
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If it was just one bottle of gin that was requested, all well and good, buts not its a never ending stream of begging for every charity that ever exists, I see no hypocrisy here, just people trying to do their best for the charities they support, feel you think again about that post!!!
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I'm just totally gobsmacked at some of the hypocrisy on here....We are so blessed that we do not have to rely on the charity of others just to survive!!! I'm more offended by the payday loan adverts than the request for little more than the cost of a bottle of gin to help the disadvantaged and abused elsewhere.
We are lucky on here to have people who answer the call to help the disadvantaged. And not so lucky to have people who criticise the hypocrisy "on here" while managing to ignore each and every call to help the disadvantaged we have ever made.
Hypocricy cap available for fittings, please apply to admin.
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Thanks for that Scunner, never heard so much rubbish in my life, and what have payday loans got to do with this thread?
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Cleopatrasasp unfortunately has a bit of a history for coming to CBF hoping to find something to offend her. It usually doesn't take much.
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what have payday loans got to do with this thread?
There's a huge interest in them. ;)
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Dear kkob DOPE :)
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Offended by the appearance of an advert? Best stay in bed and never go out again ever.
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I have first hand knowledge of the waste and "money no object" attitude
of some UK charities. There is nothing hypocritical about wanting
your donation to reach the subject rather than the facilitator.
CleopatraAsp.
I hope you don't find my post as offensive as I find yours.
I find gin offensive when too much has been consumed.
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Cheers Kevin3 cant believe that someone who has not contributed anything to the charity appeals on this forum can turn up and call us hypocrites, perhaps she has her own guilty feelings?
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Well, I like all us hypocrites on this Forum. I am also proud that we don't waste time being offended, but take action to support charity when we are invited too.
I have to admit I was aghast at this latest posting, but then I thought "Why should I be, I should be used to offence being taken once again"
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Cheers Kevin3 cant believe that someone who has not contributed anything to the charity appeals on this forum can turn up and call us hypocrites, perhaps she has her own guilty feelings?
And you know this....how?
I make no apologies for my earlier comment, and I know I'm not part of the back-slapping brigade on here, but neither does it mean I do not care. As for charitable donations, yes I'm guilty...I do make them on a monthly basis, though unlike some, I prefer not to advertise the fact!!!
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Ha ha - tonight CBF has actually (for once) given you something to talk about!! - without us you have nothing else to tell people!
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No flak from me - not required. Suffering people on the rum, whisky, Efes - we're used to it on the CBF late shift.
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And if nothing else = you've proved my point!!!
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And you mine.
Goodnight.
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And you are a member of this forum with "Biggotted aresholes" because? Grow up. You obviously know nothing about us but you choose to abuse us...
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Well said Anne
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Sadly it's so representative of the behaviour of a sector of expats over in the Calis area. Perhaps after too much to drink (but certainly not always), they get involved in subjects they perhaps should not have, then when they are disagreed with they go off to slag everyone off in "other places" rather than take it up with you directly. "Other places" in this case is Facebook.
Then they are absolutely outraged when caught out, i.e. when what is said in "other places" is quoted back at them.
It's quite repulsive, tiresome behaviour but there's plenty of it goes on over there.
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She popped back in today to advise a "bunch of biggotted arseholes" on the name
of a cough drop she chews on. I think she should chew on Ex Lax, she's full of s##t.
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After what she had to call members of CBF, how dare she pop in to offer advice on cough sweets, she is definitely a sandwich short of a picnic!!
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Yes, as if nothing had happened.
Anyway, we do 'em now and again (especially when there's rum in town ;) ) but let us not dwell on the rudeness of others, let's return to the pleasant and respectful discussion we were all managing very nicely before this person arrived.
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Have to agree with Mercury here, I have noticed that it seems a lot worse this year, it was almost constant, and it irritates me totally. I donate monthly to the Welsh Emergency Helicopter Service, and a campaign that the St John's Ambulance are doing to try and raise money to get first aid etc taught during schooling, according to their statistics over 100.000 people die in the UK each year because witnesses, passers by do not know what to do or are not confident enough to help in an emergency, and Cancer Research!. I won't give a penny to the likes of Oxfam, Sally army(had my eyes opened as to the sally army in my early teens) or any of the other biggies as, like Scunner said I also don't believe that any of my money( and a lot of everyone else's) would actually go to the cause,,as there are too many fingers getting paid out of the donations.