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Turkey Related Subjects => Cost of Living in Turkey => Topic started by: karaokemark on March 19, 2009, 07:46:46 AM

Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: karaokemark on March 19, 2009, 07:46:46 AM
As I understand it the price Turkey charges for visas and residencey permits is linked to what we charge Turkish people in the UK
Reading this I hope it does not mean the prices will increase here in Turkey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/7951721.stm

I applied for my residencey this week for 5 years the current price is 570tl a year plus extras for Muthar post etc.
If anyone is looking to do their residencey I can recommend a lady who helped us, I think it would be impossible to do it on your own.
Mark
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: tinkerman on March 19, 2009, 07:55:14 AM
We did ours this year Mark, we did the whole thing in one day with the help of Yetkins wife, she took us to all the various offices for paperworks around Fethiye to be stamped then we were taken direct to Mugla for the official stamps and residency certificates, I agree you couldn't do it on your own.
it's the postal to Mugla that takes all the time.

I think ours was about 1500TL for 3 years
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: tracey1398 on March 19, 2009, 08:00:22 AM
also anyone that has childrens residency to get if they are going to school here you can get their visa free
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: minimoo on March 19, 2009, 09:19:39 AM
quote:
Originally posted by tracey1398

also anyone that has childrens residency to get if they are going to school here you can get their visa free



Can you let me know where you found this information please? My son's residency is due again later this year, and he has been at school here since early 2005. Would this still apply also if I am just applying for his, or does a parent need to apply at the same time? Thanks in advance.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: tracey1398 on March 19, 2009, 13:41:38 PM
when i got residence for my kids to start school i was told that i had to get it as well...my friend has just got their childs free  i think he did it through baris consultancy
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: captainjon on March 24, 2009, 08:05:06 AM
Hi All, I am a little puzled why one wants to purchase a five year residency (ignoring the child issue)or even a residency at all on current costs -benefits.just an academic question not aimed at anyone.With a simple cost examination,the five year residency costing 5700ytl for two people,reduces your interest income using a nominal 15%per annum by about 855ytl for one year for the five years 4275ytl ( ignoring any compound interest).A simple trip to meis at todays cost works out at 200ytl for two people or 800ytl per annum or one could say 4000ytl for the five years,a saving of 275ytl for the same period.Going to meis four times a year could be boring so we go in the autumn-winter months.In the summer we like to visit and a weekend in Bodrum for instance with the visa trip to Kos is just 29ytl per person Plus of course the weekend travel and pension costs,but all part of the fun.What benefit is there having a residency at all at the moment.Virtualy every thing that required a residency four years ago no longer applies.All this assumes you are retired! and not looking to work or start a business etc.All the normal items one might want ie house,car,digiturk,bank accounts etc do not require a residency.I realise  one can play with a little of the costs here but the big picture does not alter. Having had 90 day visas,followed by residency and now followed by visa again I can see no good reason to go down the residency route unless of course its just a personal choice.I am looking for serious replies here,have I missed a something,no nit picking please.regards
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: sooty on March 24, 2009, 08:53:50 AM
I agree with you Captain John why go to all that trouble when you can have a pleasant day out every 90 days, I look forward to my pork chop and chips in Meis and the beautiful scenery.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: minimoo on March 24, 2009, 09:22:41 AM
However, once you have had residency for a full 5 years, you are able to apply for Turkish Citizenship, which would therefore (if you pass the test and get it) rid you of the need to pay for further residencies or visa's.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: joan on March 24, 2009, 12:17:48 PM
We got a three year residency 18 months ago,but i agree with you captainjon.Having done it we get no benefits for having it.Its not worth the the cost.But thats just our personal view
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Firo on March 24, 2009, 13:56:42 PM
I agree residency is a waste of money when compared to visa costs.

Having said that you still need residency to get health,accident & travel insurance or they won't pay out(under general conditions of most policies you must have a residence permit to qualify as a resident of Turkey).
 
You also need residency to drive your car out of Turkey if you fancy travelling and you do get a discount in hospitals with a residence permit.

Cannot think of any other benefits of having a residence permit though.
Fi
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: karaokemark on March 24, 2009, 14:09:43 PM
When we decided to go for a residencey we knew the cost was more but thought it gave us peace of mind especially with any claims for health insurance. We also read on one of the forums the goverment were considering changing the 3 month visa to a monthly visa. ( maybe just someone scaremongering have not heard anymore on the subject).
Mark
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: KKOB on March 24, 2009, 14:27:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by karaokemark

We also read on one of the forums the goverment were considering changing the 3 month visa to a monthly visa. ( maybe just someone scaremongering have not heard anymore on the subject).
Mark



That rumour's been knocking around for at least 5 years.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: captainjon on March 24, 2009, 17:23:01 PM
Hello Minimu,There is no restriction on applying for full citizenship after five years whether you have a residency for the full period or a mix of residency or visa!The criteria is whether you have been out of turkey for a period of six months or more in one hit as it were.Here is a bit of info,useful or not I dont know yet! There has been a recent decision inthe european courts of justice in       Germany(euroland)that a turkish person passing in to euroland (germany)for the purpose of business has a right of passage due to an agreement between germany and Turkey about twenty years ago and is still valid.All agreements between member states were accepted by the whole of the eu at the time of joining  as it were.The same chapter applies to the UK aparently and in theory the requirements for a visa for the UK from a turkish person due to the previous egreement with germany is legal.Watch this space!!!!!!There has been a test case already in the UK and it was upheld to be legal.Customs requirements for a visa for a person from Turkey are I believe deemed to be illegal if they are carrying out a visit for business.How about self employed pole dancers???????legal??????? wait and see
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Diverbaz 1 on March 24, 2009, 19:53:00 PM

Tourist visas do not give you the right to reside in Turkey, I don't know how you would stand if the authorities decided to have a purge.

http://www.turkishconsulate.org.uk/en/visa.htm#touristvisa1

Baz 8)
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Chinook on March 26, 2009, 19:44:12 PM
quote:
I don't know how you would stand if the authorities decided to have a purge.

In a queue for a residents visa  :)
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: starman on March 27, 2009, 10:25:55 AM
Residency has benefits. Getting a bank account, phoneline, utilities and ADSL for example. Also you never know that you may accidently go over your tourist visa which would incur extra costs and persona non gratia for a period aswell.
Add the costs of travelling, visa (who knows what the cost will be in 5 years, it was free when I first came here), what you would spend for food and shopping when you wouldnt need to, then there is not much different in cost.
Also you will need a residence to buy a car too.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: kevin b on March 27, 2009, 10:52:32 AM
quote:
Originally posted by starman

Also you will need a residence to buy a car too.



It has been posted on here & other forums that residents permit is not needed to buy car so which is correct.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: starman on March 27, 2009, 11:38:37 AM
I have helped 4 people this year buy a car. Each one of them needed a residence permit or the police would not issue a ruhsat.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: karaokemark on March 27, 2009, 13:06:19 PM
Purchased my car 5 months ago with just passport in Fethiye
Mark
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: brianthegardener on March 27, 2009, 13:32:54 PM
I know a few people who have bought cars without residence!
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: starman on March 27, 2009, 13:47:12 PM
might work in the provinces but its the law here. Things usually take time to filter down to the south.
At one time you needed a tax number to open a bank account but those down south didnt.
Now you need a residence to open a bank account but some still manage to do it down south but for how much longer?
Regulations are made but it always takes a good 6 months or so to filter to the provinces.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Firo on March 27, 2009, 14:32:14 PM
My legal translator made enquiries a few weeks ago about the anomily that you need a residence permit to take your car out of Turkey but not to buy one.
He checked with Istanbul, Ankara and it was confirmed that YES you can buy a car without a residence permit but you cannot remove it from Turkey without a residence permit.
The law was apparantly changed approx 2 years ago for purchases but as per the norm here the the removal one hasn't caught up with this fact.
I also know lots of people that have purchased cars without a permit so I think the fact that we are in the "provinces" has no bearing on the facts.
Fi
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Scunner on March 27, 2009, 14:53:51 PM
And possibly as GordonA pointed out not so long ago, you can't SELL it without residency? Best buy one of those "cars for life" :D
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: starman on March 27, 2009, 14:57:30 PM
As I said, the emniyet will not issue a ruhsat in Istanbul without a residence permit. Period.
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: moonfleet on July 28, 2010, 12:17:55 PM
http://kalkan.turkishlocalnews.com/portal/kalkan-news/88246-new-turkish-visa-regulations-to-be-reversed

all change!!!?????
Title: Visa / Residencey Prices
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2010, 12:27:57 PM
<sigh>

I'll lock this topic from March 2009