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Calis Beach Forum => Calis Local Charity Announcements => Topic started by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2013, 13:25:48 PM

Title: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 06, 2013, 13:25:48 PM
There is a piece on T.A. saying dogs have been gathered up and taken away from Oludeniz. :o :(
This part of the piece.
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We have a very bad situation down here at the moment. The Oludeniz belediye decided (in their wonderful wisdom) to round up the street dogs in Olu (despite many having ear tags and ALL being looked after regularly by locals and businesses), they took them to the shelter - who turned them away as they said they had come with no food. The belediye then dumped them 'spmewhere near Uzumlu' (direct quote). When locals found the dogs had gone, they went through (and are still going through) a wall of lies, stories, false information and counter lies from everyone involved. We are STILL looking for the dogs and STILL being lied to. The main dog is Sultan, who is known and adored by everyone. We hope that IF we can find her we can find all of them. We are talking about 10 - 15 dogs dumped with NO food, NO water, NO shelter and NO idea where they are. I have restrained myself from voicing my feelings about the 'officials' involved and the situation itself - because my language would not be nice ,This is the story
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It very sad to be taking the street dogs but particularly worrying if they have tags in their ears, so a warning to any members who have dogs over in this area, keep an eye on them.
  ;)
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Steve A on April 06, 2013, 13:49:58 PM
Nothing wrong with a nice trip to the country
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: stoop on April 06, 2013, 13:52:14 PM
Terrible for the dogs! Dumped miles from home without food or water. Maybe some of the humans who authorised it would like the same treatment?
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: quackers on April 06, 2013, 14:26:59 PM
Emre told me ıf the councıl took a dog that had just turned up ın our area and dumped ıt ın the country ıt would dıe. So we are havıng her spayed and tagged and wıll feed her as she ıs a good dog. Even though our dogs dont lıke her cos they are jealous.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: tinkerman on April 06, 2013, 16:25:48 PM
Oludeniz belediye have pulled this stunt two months ago when they brought three dogs to the Fethiye Animal Shelter, they were taken in this time but the Zabita were warned if they want to bring their dogs here they must supply food for them, bear in mind this is another Belediye who by law is supposed to provided shelter ad food for its dogs, this time 10 turned up with no food and they were asked to take them back to Oludeniz.
I have since spoken with Emre and we now have an 'arrangement' should this happen again.

Meanwhile everyone is keeping their eyes open for any new strays across the area
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Uzumluqueen on April 07, 2013, 19:55:49 PM
What is wrong with these people, these dogs have a right to life they have not asked to be born.  Is it not time that the Turkish moved into the western world, we would not tolerate their behaviour in the UK
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2013, 19:57:43 PM
Yes the entire Turkish nation did this, they are all as bad as each other.

Do me a favour.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: ergun on April 07, 2013, 20:31:52 PM
nothing wrong with a nice trip to the country??!!!!!maybe theres a spare seat!
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2013, 20:33:29 PM
Bizarre sense of humour that, Valerie.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Uzumluqueen on April 07, 2013, 20:38:08 PM
Nothing wrong with a nice trip to the country

Don't find that funny,obviously your not concerned about the dogs so think you will be in the minority here
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2013, 20:41:29 PM
Really?

A handful (at most) of Turkish people move some dogs and you think it is correct to generalise the whole country of people as being less advanced than Western Europe?

I suggest it might be you who is in the minority, with your bigoted and racist views madam.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Uzumluqueen on April 07, 2013, 20:51:55 PM
Nothing wrong with a nice trip to the country

Don't find that funny,obviously your not concerned about the dogs so think you will be in the minority here

Is it not fact that they are not a nation of dog lovers, my quote was to you to keep that kind of remark for yourself and not aimed at those who really care about the dogs ( conversation ended)
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2013, 20:54:04 PM
I'll decide when the conversation's ended thanks luv!

What is wrong with these people ~ Is it not time that the Turkish moved into the western world, we would not tolerate their behaviour in the UK

Please, if you intend using a public forum, do it responsibly. Do not tar an entire nation with the same brush as a few pillocks at Olu Deniz Belediye. We have Turkish members too. Cheers.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Anne on April 07, 2013, 22:50:11 PM
awwwwwwwwwwww she'll learn ;D
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scott and Lisa on April 07, 2013, 23:02:16 PM
this may call for a group hug xxx
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Scunner on April 07, 2013, 23:24:30 PM
Maybe a group hug would help. Maybe people should realise that we have many Turkish friends and associates on CBF and calling each and every one of them something like third world is extremely insulting to them, individually.

I particularly found "what is wrong with these people" to be insulting, disrespectful and most of all deeply condescending. Almost as repulsive as "Is it not time that the Turkish moved into the western world", but not quite.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Mrs Hyacinth Bouquet on April 08, 2013, 07:09:34 AM
I know it's horrible if this has been done to the poor animals and, as we all know, I'm not an expert on what goes on in Turkey but I did actually see some Turkish people who fed quite a few street dogs twice a day when they fed their own dog. It was nice to see and I'm under the impression (maybe wrongly, I don't know) that they in fact are, in the main, dog lovers. A lot of them have dogs.

You can't blame a whole nation for the actions of a minority.  I think I'll feed one when I'm there but maybe not because what will it do when I've gone???
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 08, 2013, 07:52:54 AM
We have always fed any local dogs.  One little dog which we fed for years did the rounds of all the neighbours as they came over and left. We even had a dish for her and we used to buy dog food.  Our lovely Dutch neighbours decided to come over permanently and so, the little dog was adopted.  She is looking really good now, and I am glad we fed her as all the neighbours did.  She still comes into the garden to sit with us.  The funny thing is, each neighbours had a different name for her and she answered to them all. ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Mrs Hyacinth Bouquet on April 08, 2013, 10:17:26 AM
That's lovely Jacqui.  I really would like to feed some but upon thinking more deeply into it, maybe I shouldn't because in the first place, it's not my own property that I'm going to be living in and if I were to inflict a dog haven upon others, it wouldn't be fair.  :(
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: scorcher on April 08, 2013, 11:05:58 AM
Good thinking.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: tinkerman on April 08, 2013, 14:29:07 PM
There are many places you can feed a dog without being on someones property  :)
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 08, 2013, 16:45:58 PM
We have always thought it a waste to throw away any food that a street animal would eat.  It's easy to put the food somewhere away from where you are staying.   We bring over flea and worming tablets also.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Bluwise on April 08, 2013, 18:45:39 PM
I don't really get it - there are many complaints about dogs hanging around restaurants, messing up the beaches etc yet by feeding strays it is keeping the numbers up.   ???
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Jacqui Harvey on April 08, 2013, 19:28:41 PM
We live a long way from the restaurants and only have a few strays, which originally where brought to the area by the Farmers.  We have had the same two cats for 8 years now.  So there is not mass breeding problem with our strays.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: grizabella on April 08, 2013, 19:34:50 PM
Feeding strays does NOT keep the numbers up!It's irresponsible owners who do not neuter their animals,allow them to stray and procriate that add to the stray population.The Turkish law of 'Trap,Neuter and Return'keeps the numbers down.Allowing the street animals to be healthy and keeping the population stable.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Bluwise on April 08, 2013, 20:13:29 PM
I suppose that's one way of having some control but it doesn't control the 'mess' that people rightly complain about.  It's just that in my opinion, returning them to the streets is exposing them to accidents,  illness and possibly starvation if someone doesn't feed them. 
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: quackers on April 08, 2013, 20:41:06 PM
We are having our street dog neutered tomorrow courtesy of AA. She will then be returned to us to recover and then  the local bar and us will feed her and have her innoculations done . She wil be wormed and flea treated. We have tried discouraging her away from our area but she loves us so she stays. She has taken over from Sybil, our much loved street dog that got shot. We also have 2 street dogs that live in our villa and they are lovely and we can leave them in our house and go out with no problems. Love , training and food is all they need .
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Bluwise on April 08, 2013, 21:42:22 PM
I must have misunderstood the 'street dog' part.  I was talking about the strays who don't have anyone taking full responsibility for them- those that wander at will and leave their calling cards on the beach etc. Love,training and food is someone taking responsibility especially if they live with you- surely that's different?  I would not want to take anything away from the great work that is done to help animals -
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: quackers on April 09, 2013, 05:53:03 AM
Our old street dog Sybıl was the burglars worst frıend. She would not lıve ın our house but would turn up at meal tımes and come for a walk wıth our dogs. She was an out and out street dog but lovely wıth it.(apart from chasıng cars). Beyaz the new street dog ıs the same temperment and has been ın our area for a few months now just hangıng around the local bar hopıng for food so ıts tıme to take responsıbılıty for her. She won't lıve wıth us, she lıkes her freedom but she needs her rabıes and other jabs every year and flea treatment and wormıng. Also proper food apart from the scraps she scrounges at the bar. Once she ıs spayed and tagged everyone wıll know she ıs safe frıendly dog and won't hurt her. She wıll have a better safe street lıfe at lıttle cost to us. I agree the packs of wanderıng dogs are a nuısance but luckıly they seem to move on ıf not fed a true street dog wıll stay.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: milliemars on April 09, 2013, 07:52:03 AM
I don't really get it - there are many complaints about dogs hanging around restaurants, messing up the beaches etc yet by feeding strays it is keeping the numbers up.   ???
Not really as most of the dogs that are hanging around as you say have been neutered so eventually numbers will dwindle. The 10 dogs taken from Olu Deniz were mainly tagged street dogs that had every right to be there as thats where they came from.Could I also comment that it is not only the Street dogs that are messing up the beaches there are a few and just a few that are owned.I see more mess left by humans like cigarette butts and rubbish that I do dog mess.
Title: Re: Dogs being gathered up and dumped in the country?? Warning to dog owners.
Post by: Bluwise on April 09, 2013, 08:22:34 AM
Fair point but then as I have said before, I would rather get a cig butt between my toes than a dog poo.  :o