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Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Moving To Turkey => Topic started by: sarah_loves_calis on August 31, 2006, 21:22:46 PM

Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: sarah_loves_calis on August 31, 2006, 21:22:46 PM
After visiting Turkey for the first time this year in July my daughter has decided when she leaves school (summer 2007) she wants to live in Calis Beach, Turkey for a year. When she returns from Tukrey she will then study law, does anyone know if it will be easy for a 16/17 year old working and living in turkey and do you have any advice on how to get out there. If you could help i would appreciate it. Thanks Sarah  :)
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: mercury on August 31, 2006, 21:46:11 PM
I wouldn't let my daughter come here at that age!! I am sorry but she would be unable to work as she wouldn't get a work permit and anyway it would only be seasonal. She would never be able to provide for herself for a year.It is very easy to fall in love with Calis after a first visit and I can understand why she would want to come but holidaying here at her age and living here are 2 entireley different things. I hope that you can talk her out of it. Anne
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Crabbit on August 31, 2006, 22:00:58 PM
Well said Anne.

Crabbit
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: tinkerman on August 31, 2006, 22:07:49 PM
Thats an absolute no-no :o

Tinx
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: sarah_loves_calis on August 31, 2006, 22:23:43 PM
Well i am very glad i posted that message, thanks for the info i will bare it in mind. She is very determind to go for a year it will be hard talking her out of it. Can i ask mercury why you would never let your daughter there at that age? I agree with what you are saying i just need to persaude my daughter not to go. Thanks Sarah
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Crabbit on August 31, 2006, 22:29:22 PM
Sarah
Do you want us to draw you a picture ?

Crabbit
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Steve B on August 31, 2006, 22:44:07 PM
English girl 16 in Turkish resort will be an English girl 17 on a plane back to blighty with a bun in the oven.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: valentine on August 31, 2006, 23:07:27 PM

It would be virtually impossible for her to get work, she probably wouldn't even be able to get a flight on her own, and thats before all the obvious pitfalls that have been pointed out. She is far too young to be living in another country, perhaps it would be wiser for her to go to college and then travel to Turkey in her gap year when she is 18, then perhaps she could have saved enough money to give her a few months there without working.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Anne on September 01, 2006, 00:37:38 AM
Regardless of the above mentioned I'd never allow my 16 year old daughter to be so far away from home.  She's still a child!
Anne
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: janet.gur on September 01, 2006, 07:06:56 AM
I totally agree with all that has been said.  It seems romantic and exciting to a girl of that age. If she wants to take a gap year and live abroad it would be far safer to go with an organisation that specialises in this such as VSO.  She would still have the excitement and the experience but with back up and someone to watch over her.  Also she would have the satisfaction of knowing she was doing something useful,

Please please please as her mother put your foot down and say NO
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: tribalelder on September 01, 2006, 07:43:27 AM
She may get work ILLEGALLY and if caught she would be deported and never allowed back. She may also never get paid for the work she has done and cannot do a thing about it as she is an illegal, I have heard of two instances of this.  If necessary burn her passport!
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: heather07 on September 01, 2006, 07:53:33 AM
Unfortunately these days 16 year olds are more adventurous.  What I would say is if she feels so strongly about going it is up to her to find her way.  It is not up to you to support her.
I would suggest she needs a job to buy a ticket out there and make it an open return so if things go wrong she has a way home.
She will also need a job before she gets there, then she will have to apply for a permit.  Unless she gets a job with a travel company which doesn't pay well and will probably be all hours.  However she would have support from other reps.
Only you know if she is mature enough to be able to cope with the situation.
If all else fails get her on the pill and give her information about STDs as they are rife in the resorts.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: booo on September 01, 2006, 07:57:18 AM
A girl that age would totally be taken advantage of, have also heard of cases where people don't get paid etc aswell as potentially more dangerous situations.
It is a massive step moving overseas perhaps when she is 18 could try for holiday repping then at least there will be some sort of a support system here for her if she needs it.
Getting a job is a lot harder than it looks, can't work in bars, restaurants etc and there is a lot of competition for other jobs and they would definitely go for someone with work experience rather than a young girl.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: valentine on September 01, 2006, 09:24:37 AM

Most reputable tour operators won't employ people under 19. The bottom line is that she won't get work, unless as tribalelder says, she works illegally and just think of all the pitfalls of that! She is simply too young at 16, she thinks she can manage out in the world but you know she cannot, please for her sake put your foot down.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Jenny on September 01, 2006, 09:31:59 AM
Let me guess - she visited once and was swept off her feet by a Turkish lad - thats all very good for a week or 2 but he won't want her for a year! think of all the other girls he will be missing out on!
If I was a Mum id definately say no - how would any responsible parent even consider letting their 16/17 year old daughter move to Calis or anywhere abroad by themself its obsurd! Calis really isnt as safe as people think it is - certainly not the place for a young girl on her own.

Jenny.x.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: sarah_loves_calis on September 01, 2006, 10:42:28 AM
I was so stupid to even think it would work out for her, i can't believe my stupidity at times. After reading all of your comments she will NOT and definatly NOT be living in calis until at LEAST the age of 18 even then i will look into it more. Thanks to everyone Sarah.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Mia on September 01, 2006, 11:26:46 AM
Hi sarah,

Im so glad you have had a rethink on this and that you came here and got advice.


People are right in saying that your daughter could work illegally but i am more than sure she would never see any money out of her employer.


If she loves Calis so much then take her back for a supervised holiday and watch her carefully.


Mia.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: stuart on September 01, 2006, 11:54:28 AM
glad you got the message sarah!!
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: tribalelder on September 01, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
Another sucess for Forum POWER! :)
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: GordonA on September 01, 2006, 13:51:37 PM
What difference will it make at 18? She will still be looked upon as "TURKEY FODDER",I agree with others, 2 weeks holiday is nice, but the reality is that most of the Turkish lads are only after a "good time"!& when one girl returns to her home country, they are waiting for the next lot to arrive!!
Gordon
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Jenny on September 01, 2006, 13:55:05 PM
Well done Sarah, you made the right decision. Im 23 and I wouldnt felel safe living their on my own, let alone at 16.

Jenny.x.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: heather07 on September 01, 2006, 15:11:12 PM
No Sarah you are not stupid or you would have just let her go.  What you have done is gone with your instincts and looked into the situation.  Where better to find it than on a site with ex pats.  With the relevant facts you can argue your case.  If you need any more backing e-mail me and I will point you to a few sites.(I dont think I am allowed to put them on here)
It is difficult these days as children appear to grow up faster than we did.
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: kenkay on September 02, 2006, 17:31:35 PM
Hi Sarah
Well done for having the sense to seek advice on this subject and for having the sense to take it. I agree with most of the comments but in your place I would be a bit aggrieved at Steve B's prejudgement of you daughters morals.:(
Ken
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Tykatem on September 02, 2006, 18:57:28 PM
Tinx..... did you find that out from personal experience?

Pete
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Elsa Padfield on September 03, 2006, 01:27:07 AM
My daughter is 22 and is a professional diver with a degree in marine and freshwater biology and would find it difficult to get a work permit to work next summer in the job she's been offered.  She'll probably just come over and work in a vollentary basis and dive as a bonus living in our property.  (i've had a couple of drinkys so can't spell!  sorry)
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Crabbit on September 03, 2006, 09:33:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by kenkay

Hi Sarah
I would be a bit aggrieved at Steve B's prejudgement of you daughters morals.:(
Ken



Steve B is right in what he says,
It`s not sarah`s daughters morals,it a way of life out here.

Crabbit
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Crabbit on September 03, 2006, 09:39:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Elsa Padfield

She'll probably just come over and work in a vollentary basis


She can`t work voluntary without a work permit.

Crabbit
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: Suzanne on September 03, 2006, 22:51:19 PM
Sarah....I know how persistant and  persuasive a 16 year old daughter can be...I've spent the last 6 months talking my own daughter out of going to Turkey for a year..she wanted to go after her exams.... She spent 7 weeks there this summer... (we were also there)  she has now seen sense (with a little parental guidence) and she is starting college on Wednesday..a 3 year course...thank god! So dont feel foolish that you were considering it...you are not alone.
Suz
Title: An experience of living in Turkey
Post by: sarah_loves_calis on September 04, 2006, 16:38:36 PM
I have finaly convinced my daughter it is not a good idea for her to go to Turkey for a year when she leaves school, it was hard but with the help of this forum i did it! Thanks for all of your comments, even though she has only put it off until she has finished uni. I will just have to persuade her not to go then unless of course i have moved there by then :D. She thinks by living in Calis it will be like a year long holiday but it won't, she will have to work pay bills etc etc. She has fallen in love with the beautiful place on a first visit, i just hope she doesn't meet a man "she falls in love with" in turkey, how hard would it be to persuade her not to go??? Anyway Thanks everyone, you have helped alot. Sarah