Patsy, with respect to all the lovely people who are members here--if you ask an opinion from a Turkish based site then you could predict the answer, likewise a Spanish based site, we have a place in Spain and I could give many a good reason for basing there, on the other hand just visited Calis for the first time--excellent, friendly people--particularly the ones we met from this site, good food, and very very picturesque--more so than Spain--but what do you need?? if you want a total departure from the British way of life--then maybe Turkey, if its something in between with more of the infrastructure that you are accustomed to, then maybe it's Spain. This site will tell you Turkey--a Spanish site will say Spain, ask yourselves what it is that you most need. Ken.