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General Topics => Football => Topic started by: karaokemark on February 08, 2012, 12:05:37 PM
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One up for the rogues I think, now sack Capello and give him the England job
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Sack Capello Mark, he,s the best manager since Graham Taylor. ;)
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Still scratching my head trying to work out how they got off ... payments in monaco, bonus vs non bonus, bank accounts in dogs names, football managers, nothing to do with transfers, but not the same story in another recorded call, 'arry can't read and write but he can count alright when the 'bonus' was not as large as was expected, and no one can explain where the money was taxed anyway, but not in the UK, and of course good old Portsmouth football club where there has never been any issues of financial probabity!! No wonder football is losing its way
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He didn't have any problems on the Wii on that advert either :D
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It's down to getting the best lawyers that money can buy!!!
Still, it's all worked out well now Capello has resigned tonight ;)
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Originally posted by karaokemark
One up for the rogues I think, now sack Capello and give him the England job
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08022012/58/euro-2012-capello-quits-england-boss.html Are you sidekick Mark[?] ;):D
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It seems that Daniel Levy has said that Harry can leave us and go and manage England as long as he writes his own resignation letter!
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I've heard the job is his, the FA say all he has to do is send them a text accepting the job
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LOL hilarious! ( for the record I really did Laugh out loud)
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harry will take england job,as long as it is tax free.lol
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talk about falling into s**t and coming up smelling of roses
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Know wonder the UK is in dire if it can't collect taxes even when the evidence is there for all to see that it has not been paid regardless of reason! 8 million pound investigation, was it worth it in the first place???
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Forgive me but which part of not guilty do you not understand.
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Originally posted by corbindallas
8 million pound investigation, was it worth it in the first place???
I understand the investigation and trial of the Yorkshire Ripper failed to make a profit too. What a diabolical legal system we have in the UK.
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Always thought he was a doggy geezer ;)
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Harry Rednapp said he can handle the Euros this summer no problem as long as they are unmarked & untraceable ....Coys :)
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Originally posted by Scunner
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Originally posted by corbindallas
8 million pound investigation, was it worth it in the first place???
I understand the investigation and trial of the Yorkshire Ripper failed to make a profit too. What a diabolical legal system we have in the UK.
Not really a serious comparison is it? One is a mass murderer the other is a innocent (cough) tax dodger! Since when did profit come out of court cases anyhow??
Highlander as a ex police officer of many years I am fully aware of the difference between not guilty and guilty I am also very aware the legal system in the UK is not one to be proud of and is stacked in favour of the guilty and also the rich and it will not change soon as the people running it are literally a law onto themselves!
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It is indeed a serious comparison, as an ex-police officer I would have thought you would regard breaking the law as all the same whether it be tax evasion or anything else. As for 'when did profit come out of court cases' - you started that by asking if spending £8 million (which is unconfirmed by the way) to chase this smaller tax amount was worth it. I wondered why the financial side of the case would have any bearing on what crimes should be pursued. Surely the amounts of money involved make the crime no worse nor better - the crime is constantly the same - no?
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"as an ex police officer...."
what has that got to do with being aware of the difference between not guilty and guilty. In fact judging by your reference to "an innocent (cough) tax dodger" you appear not to know the difference.
"the legal system in the UK is not one to be proud of"
in my opinion, it is a damned sight better than many, many other places in the world
"and is stacked in favour of the guilty"
[?] I'm afraid I don't understand that. In this country nobody is guilty until proven so.
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Originally posted by Scunner
Surely the amounts of money involved make the crime no worse nor better - the crime is constantly the same - no?
Couldn't agree more Keith. There should be NO distinction, I mean, why the hell is there a legal distinction between 'Theft' & 'Petty Theft'?, it's either stolen or it's Not stolen. You cannot enter a plea of 'Petty Murder', just because the victim was only shot/stabbed once, rather than being butchered, or can you ??
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Originally posted by GordonA
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Originally posted by Scunner
Surely the amounts of money involved make the crime no worse nor better - the crime is constantly the same - no?
Couldn't agree more Keith. There should be NO distinction, I mean, why the hell is there a legal distinction between 'Theft' & 'Petty Theft'?, it's either stolen or it's Not stolen. You cannot enter a plea of 'Petty Murder', just because the victim was only shot/stabbed once, rather than being butchered, or can you ??
Manslaughter or murder?
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Originally posted by stoop
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Originally posted by GordonA
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Originally posted by Scunner
Surely the amounts of money involved make the crime no worse nor better - the crime is constantly the same - no?
Couldn't agree more Keith. There should be NO distinction, I mean, why the hell is there a legal distinction between 'Theft' & 'Petty Theft'?, it's either stolen or it's Not stolen. You cannot enter a plea of 'Petty Murder', just because the victim was only shot/stabbed once, rather than being butchered, or can you ??
Manslaughter or murder?
I always assumed that manslaughter was killing someone when you didn't actually mean to. I have never heard of accidentally stealing something.
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Harry was quilty pure and simple. So hang him high then please give
him the England managers job.
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quilty? lets put this to bed :D
He was found not guilty in a court of law, that makes him not guilty of the crime he was charged with.
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Well said Andy:D
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Originally posted by Highlander
"as an ex police officer...."
what has that got to do with being aware of the difference between not guilty and guilty. In fact judging by your reference to "an innocent (cough) tax dodger" you appear not to know the difference.
"the legal system in the UK is not one to be proud of"
in my opinion, it is a damned sight better than many, many other places in the world
"and is stacked in favour of the guilty"
[?] I'm afraid I don't understand that. In this country nobody is guilty until proven so.
You asked a question I gave you a answer?
I agree with your opinion on the UK legal system, it is a damn sight better than many other places in the world (however not really difficult though considering the legal system in many country's are dire or virtually none existent) that doesn't mean I think it is a quality system or does not need changing and improvements.
In 18 years of being involved in the UK legal system at all levels, I have seen many, many injustice's where guilty people get off because of technicalities that have nothing really to do with the case in question, thus my reference to stacked in favour of the guilty and the guilty do get away with it, just because they are not charged in court does not make them 'not guilty' or innocent in my eye's. Yes yes I understand innocent until proven guilty statement, but I am talking about guilty people who are not innocent and not being dealt with correctly or fairly in my opinion. I can give many reasons for this opinion such as cases being dismissed because a pocket book wasn't initialed, or plea bargaining away some offences, or because of age, or better legal representation protection, even 'old boy's school' clubbing together etc etc, to ensure guilty person(s) are not found guilty, despite cases being black and white in reality, the list goes on and on.
By the way you can also be guilty without being proven in a legal sense like having a guilty secret or conscience, but I am being flippant as I know that is not what you were referring to.
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Originally posted by Highlander
"as an ex police officer...."
In this country nobody is guilty until proven so.
Unless of course your name is Balotelli. ;) Sorry folks I just couldnt resist it. tee hee
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PS Good win for Spurs today. Well done