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General Topics => The Debating Chamber => Topic started by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 20:39:34 PM

Title: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 20:39:34 PM
I wonder if anyone else is irritated by this ridiculous political act. Tony Blair apologising for slavery, or another politician apologising for something in WW2, or even the Japanese PM apologising for Pearl Harbour.

What a crock! Generally these people weren't even born at the time of the thing they are apologising for - could there be a more empty message of sorrow.
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: KKOB on August 18, 2013, 20:49:29 PM
Sorry.
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Post by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 20:50:13 PM
It's too late
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Post by: Susiepink on August 18, 2013, 21:31:52 PM
Why have you now gone red Scunner?
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Post by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 21:41:47 PM
Wasn't I red before?
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: madmart on August 18, 2013, 21:51:57 PM
Felt like chucking something at the telly when they were apologising for Dresden. Never heard the Germans apologising for London, Coventry, Liverpool etc.
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Post by: Susiepink on August 18, 2013, 21:52:34 PM
No, you were green, I'm yellow, what does it all mean ?
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Post by: madmart on August 18, 2013, 21:53:37 PM
Must mean he's in charge
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Post by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 21:56:35 PM
For what it's worth I was in charge before any colour change :D
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: madmart on August 18, 2013, 22:02:59 PM
Is it true you're only in charge cos Mrs Scunner says so?

 :)
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: Scunner on August 18, 2013, 22:04:24 PM
There is an element of truth to that Martin. But in fairness, she only thinks that because I let her.
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Post by: madmart on August 18, 2013, 22:07:02 PM
Likewise
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Post by: puma on August 18, 2013, 22:33:01 PM
typical politician always too late to change things that have happened
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Post by: mac2010 on August 19, 2013, 09:11:33 AM
Yes but they are sorry for that too. I am sorry we never kept the iron lady in power. >:(
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: johntaylor49 on August 20, 2013, 12:20:43 PM
I think we should apologise to the Americans for losing the war of independence and saddling them with hundreds of years of rule by idiots and the construction of a mendacistic state of greed and cruelty
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: KKOB on August 20, 2013, 17:07:57 PM
mendacistic

You had Google stumped with that one !  ;)
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: Colwyn on August 20, 2013, 17:41:44 PM
One of Bristol's great political campaigners, Paul Stevenson, who did great work representing our West Indian community, wanted Bristol to apologize for its role in the Africa to N. America/Caribbean slave trade. I never really understood whether he wanted all Bristolians to apologize - including the West Indian community - or whether it was just the formal representatives of the city (the mayor and corporation). No matter - what the city eventually did, via the boldly named "Imperial and Commonwealth Museum", was to put on a superb exhibition on transatlantic slavery which really showed the horror of that episode of history; a history which is still reflected in Bristol today in the grand houses of those profiting from the trade and in the legacy of their "philanthropic" donations to the city. In my opinion this was far better than some empty apology.


But many Bristolians would prefer not to mention this; to forget it completely. So perhaps Paul Stevenson had a point.
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Post by: johntaylor49 on August 21, 2013, 11:45:58 AM
mendacistic

You had Google stumped with that one !   ;)
Had a word at a séance with Dr. Johnson  :)
Title: Re: Can We PLEASE Stop Apologising!
Post by: johntaylor49 on August 21, 2013, 11:46:55 AM
One of Bristol's great political campaigners, Paul Stevenson, who did great work representing our West Indian community, wanted Bristol to apologize for its role in the Africa to N. America/Caribbean slave trade. I never really understood whether he wanted all Bristolians to apologize - including the West Indian community - or whether it was just the formal representatives of the city (the mayor and corporation). No matter - what the city eventually did, via the boldly named "Imperial and Commonwealth Museum", was to put on a superb exhibition on transatlantic slavery which really showed the horror of that episode of history; a history which is still reflected in Bristol today in the grand houses of those profiting from the trade and in the legacy of their "philanthropic" donations to the city. In my opinion this was far better than some empty apology.


But many Bristolians would prefer not to mention this; to forget it completely. So perhaps Paul Stevenson had a point.

They were going to do something similar in Liverpool which of course was totally founded on Slavery, but someone had nicked everything  :)