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Calis Beach Forum => Expat & Property Owners Q and A Forum => Topic started by: daveG on October 10, 2017, 08:54:41 AM

Title: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: daveG on October 10, 2017, 08:54:41 AM
It never rains but it pours comes to mind!
Having dealt with the airline fiasco, Went to my bank yesterday to find my account had been suspended.
After trying to discover why eventually pointed in the direction of the tax office.
After a further 30 mins of what why and disbelief I t came to light that on purchase of our property in 2004 the price paid did not agree with the value shown on tapu.
Consequently after much deliberation decided to cough up 1750 tl to enable the bank account to be re-opened.
I feel sure that this clampdown going back so many years could result in further pain for many expats.
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: KKOB on October 10, 2017, 09:35:55 AM
Did you purchase your property through Hanel Houses or one of their subsidiaries by any chance ?
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Steve A on October 10, 2017, 10:06:23 AM
We were warned about this practice when buying around 2005 and made sure we had th3 correct figure on the Tapu.No problems for us but I suspect this will be the tip of the iceberg and exactly what our agent warned us about.
Title: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2017, 12:01:54 PM
I would suggest 1750tl is way less than the original underpayment of tax, and the many years of underpaid council tax, based on tapu value.

Not nice to have your account frozen though...
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: JohnF on October 10, 2017, 12:18:30 PM
Totally agree, and 1750tl is probably a bit of a result, against what it could have been - especially if you factor in the interest over thirteen years!

JF
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: daveG on October 10, 2017, 17:08:43 PM
KKOB No it was purchased through Hallmark Properties located close to where the new arcade stands now.
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: bewva on October 10, 2017, 19:42:29 PM
Did you get a receipt saying you had paid in full & final settlement (off the tax).
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Scunner on October 10, 2017, 20:04:20 PM
Good point Bewva, this may not be over. Seems a very random action too, nobody else has reported it happening to them here or on FB. I assume there will be plenty more coming.
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: daveG on October 11, 2017, 09:30:17 AM
Yes Bewva receipt given and advised block on account would be lifted following day.  So will wait a further few days before going into my bank for a full statement. Of course this will not show the payment just paid direct to tax office.
This whole episode came as a big shock as there was no underhand dealing on our behalf we just left it to the so called professionals I.e estate agent and independent advocate.
This was at a time when many purchases were conducted through this brother or that cousin or under the table with bags of para!! We did not entertain this route.
General information we have since received mounted to..within 5yrs any problem should have been brought to life and certainly within 10yrs!!!however for a quite life (at our age this is all we want) we paid up and put it down to experience.
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Steve A on October 11, 2017, 10:04:06 AM
It is a result cash wise but we were concerned about this from the outset hence demanding correct value on Tapu.What is of concern is that over 12 years later and they are going through tax records and making demands,freezing accounts etc.this seems a bit long in the tooth and excessive.
Title: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Scunner on October 11, 2017, 22:02:06 PM
Do you still have the same property and same bank account you would have used when you bought, Dave? It would be more difficult to chase purchasers from 2004ish if they had moved on or moved/closed that bank account - so your consistency might have been the reason you have been targeted.

For the record from the other side of the desk, as agents we were often asked about paying the full amount based on purchase price rather than based on tapu value. Some we did, others - particularly where the client insisted on using a solicitor - they were strongly advised to pay the lesser amount. In fact, I recall buyers being told that if they insisted on declaring the actual purchase price, they would cause problems for the very people who were about to become their new neighbours.

Mind you, this was also in the days where well known local solicitors would arrive at our office with a Migros carrier bag stuffed full of £40,000 worth of lira.
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: daveG on October 12, 2017, 09:31:04 AM
Yes Keith still with same bank from outset always found them to be helpful and one of the first to allow direct debits on electric and water.
Went into bank today and it was confirmed that problem simdi yok  and account re opened.
I too recall when our deposit arrived and I withdrew the cash it was taken up by the agent on the dolmus to Olu Deniz to the previous owner. As far as the balance presumably something similar occured on receipt of the tapu by our solicitor who was given power of attorney.
Happy days hey!!
Title: Re: Taxman cometh!!!
Post by: Scunner on October 12, 2017, 11:06:34 AM
Keep on smiling Dave  :)