Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Places to Visit => Topic started by: davidzz on March 08, 2006, 11:51:39 AM
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Last year My son and I went on Qaudbike safari from bottom end of hisaronu through kayakoy village and got to see some excellent places that you would never see on any other tour in fact at one stage we had to park up and proceed on foot to what was one of the most spectacular views I have ever seen.It included a stop at the beach for a dip before lunch.There was also an opportunity for the kids to do some off road on a dirt track and for us to be big kids as well.Of course had to get the the dvd and still watch it now.
Well worth it but do not get dressed up and probably suggest you wear something you may not want to wear again as I had threw my shorts and t-shirt in the bin. (full of dust)
David
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Unfortunately the tranquility of Kaya Koyu is being seriously eroded by the 50 to 60 quad bikes that tear through it every day during the season. They are causing a lot of damage to the old traditional pathways and are often being driven dangerously by the very people who are supposed to be responsible for their safety.
Luckily for us they don't come near our property, but I know there have been protests about them in the past and there will be more in the future. Most of the villagers hate them, whilst the businesses like the money that they spend in the local shops.
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This is the problem. Of course people go on holiday to do things like this - no blame on David for partaking in this - who can blame them - but then the problems start like you talk about KKOB. I am quite surprised that this sort of thing has been allowed in the area of KK - surely there is some sort of preservation order? Maybe you should get a petition going KKOB and get us all to sign it. Im sure most people would, and Im sure if DavidZZ knew how you felt and the other village residents,then he will keep the dvd as a happy memory and sign the petition too?! I know in my days Ive done things that Ive later looked back on and thought maybe wasnt so good for the local community - but hey, were only human and sunshine does funny things!.
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Although KK is a conservation area, there's no law to control any kind fo activities, except religious ones, taking place.
Apparently in the past there were are a number of residents in KK who protested and petitioned. They've had threats made against them and are considering other ways of stopping the quad bikes.
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A Ib of 4" nails may do the trick.
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hey i went on quite a few quad bike rides last year, thoroughly enjoyed them, down through Kaya onto Gemiler bay; and i certainly don,t remember any of the locals giving any cause for concern or complaining. In fact most of them that i saw waved hello.
Yes i did hear that there were complaints and a big petition brought up a couple of years ago when Taner first started his business but since then others have started up, so poo to the petitions.
it,s a great day out and as they use the local businesses for lunches etc ..... what more can i say.
They guys don,t do any damage to the paths, it,s not like the trials bikes or land rovers on the green lanes in England.
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The day We went there was only 4 bikes as well as the guide's and I got the the impression that it was not as popular but having said that it was in May. From your comments ,It is busier than I thought and that means more people being less careful about protecting the area.I would suggest instead of Quadbike(watch they might sue me here)
that a nice long 6 hour walk could be just as good :) :)
Guilty as charged 8)
David
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If you want some company on a walk around the village, contact me.
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Pegs,
Next time you go on one of your many quad bike rides through Kaya Koyu, think about this:-
There are 3 or 4 mini-markets and a couple of restaurants that make money from the quad-bikes. The rest of the village hears and smells them going through the Kaya Valley.
When they go through the village, they often cause traffic hold-ups because they insist on driving in convoy. They have even tried to force motorists off of the road to allow them all to pass in one go.
Many of the holiday makers driving the bikes have never been on one before and find them difficult to control. They have little or no experience of driving on the right-hand side of the road. Indeed, many of them are too young to have had any road experience whatsoever.
The groups are supposed to have at least 3 instructors accompanying them. Most don't.
Last year there were 3 fatalities and one person was paralysed for 4 months following accidents in the area. There have been far too many near-misses to count.
Now, believe it or not, I'm not one of those that wants to ban the quad bikes from the village. In fact, I'd find one very useful and those of you on here that have visited our property will know why.
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There should be designated places for this type of sport - not tearing through villages such as Kaya Koy. Especially in view of the accidents and near misses. Cant believe - 3 FATALITIES. That is outrageous. And would you be as quick to Poo a petition if it was going on near your own house with constant noise of 50 odd quads a day zooming past? I think not. Hire a bike like I do (pushbike). You can get down to Gemiler just as quickly.
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That is unbelievable KKoB. 3 deaths???? surely this should be banned,simply for the danger element of this. I tell you, there is nothing nicer than walking around Kaya. In fact I will be looking to do it again in May and cant wait. KKOB, I am hoping you will be able to recommend some walks to me? I have two little ones - five and two. the two year old is still in pram, so would welcome any info you can give us on best way to see kaya with a pram. Last time I walked around the village was back in 1994! Only got to the Levissi Wine house last year in the evening. Or are there any other pleasant (not too long) walks in the area that would be suitable for us?Would welcome your hints and tips. thanks.
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And check your travel insurance, you will find that any activities such as quad riding on public roads (check you have "car insurance" for a motorised wheel vehicle) will not be covered unless all requirements are covered as specified in your insurance details.
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All said and done(what does that mean?) We took a walk from Ovacik to kaya village last year and thoroughly enjoyed it.The children (are we nearly there yet)and ourseselves had the opportunity see some lovely countryside and the local wildlife.The wife fell in love with a gorgeous Villa on the way there but I persuaded her we could not afford it(its not yours Alan.Is it?).
David
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NO,it's not. Ours is on the opposite side of the valley to the Ghost Village.
If she means the big white villa with the terraced gardens on the right as you enter the village, it's yours for £500,000. But, it's got no water ! ( Apart from what runs down the inside walls ) LOL
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hi to KayaKoyuOldboy, yes I did know about the accidents, or at least 2 of them on the bad bends coming from Hisaronu down the hill BUT did not hear of any fatalities. I did quite a few rides last summer and the guy I used did give good comprehensive instructions on how to use them AND he refused to take people who did not show they were competent during the practice. His English/German is good as he,s lived in england and also has a German business partner so he can be easily understood. Helmets are always provided.
I feel it,s unfair to blame the companies for all accidents, what happened to personal responsibility???? On one of the trips I did, 2 supposedly grown up men, both in their 40s decided to race each other down the road from Hisaronu, yes right where the bad bends are and the accidents happened. As for driving on the right hand side, the group usually takes the safest route, ie away from the edges and is their a right hand side on a muck track only wide enough to take 1 way traffic? I agree under 16s should not be driving the quads and some road experience is useful but you have to look at how the locals drive - is there really a lot of difference to them and a 17 yr old having fun on a quad???
Believe it or not the only accident i saw was a Turkish friend of the owner of the company I was riding with.
I love KK and the walks around there are great, my legs are usually my form of transportation and would encourage anybody to have a wander round, but I object to 'tearing through KK' and I think the 50-60 is a bit of an exaggeration, at the most I bet I,ve seen 30 on a good day, but I suppose for some people even 30 is too many.
Which ever way you choose to get around anywhere you should show consideration for the environment and other visitors as well as the locals.
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how much is a quad safari in calis? and can you hire quad-bikes for the day ? if so how much?
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Could have done with a quad bike on Sunday after almost getting stuck down the end of your lane KKOB.Still quite wet down there I noted!!!
WW
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You could have called in for a cuppa!
I stood there watching you for a while wondering what sort of *ick-head would go down the lane while it was still flooded !!
When are you coming back to clean up all that flour you left in my lane ? :D ;)
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Next time I am in Kaya I will call you and call in for a cuppa. Might even bring a brush!!!.
WW
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My 2 girlies used the quad bikes in Calis. They had a great day out with lunch etc. Can't remember how much it was though, although I do remember it being a lot less expensive than KayaKoy and they didn't have to go very far - 2 minutes up the road!!