Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Other Local Resorts & Areas => Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum => Topic started by: JohnF on April 18, 2017, 19:18:58 PM
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That's our apartment in Karagözler away. Gone. Sold. Feels a bit odd not having somewhere to scoot down to in Fethiye after all these years. In fact, after selling both the house in Istanbul and our potential retirement gaff in Fethiye a couple of years ago, to now have sold our last tangible connection with Turkey feels decidedly weird!
Anyway, onwards. UK house goes on market in a couple of weeks and if we get a decent offer then it's off to España (I knew that Irish grandmother would come in useful ;) )
Still no idea what we're going to do, take on a "project" or spend a bit more and go for something already reformed. Prices are decent where we're heading, it's not a tourist area like the Costas, so no blinged up Brits or Germans pushing prices through the roof. The flip side is an urgent need to improve our Spanish, coming out with phrases like "iki cervezas lütfen" and "si, es çok caliente" just make you sound like a complete tit.
Swapping raki and kebabs for sherry, flamenco and tapas... I can live with that.
Before anyone puts dos ve iki together and gets cinco, we'd planned this for some time accepting an offer in November last year :) nothing to do with Sunday.
JF
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All the very best to you.
Adiós y buena suerte 8)
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Property seems to be selling well at present we sold ours in March went almost immediately. Felt it was time for us to start a new adventure .Off to Cyprus in the next few weeks to find our new holiday home .Will we go back to Turkey? Never say never but no plans for this year.
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Good luck, don't forget to let us have your Spanish address and directions ;)
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We sold in October - went to Cyprus - Paphos area - in December and were massively underwhelmed- then went to Spain in January and bought - so a new adventure starts for us as well.
Habla muy poco espańol
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We like Cyprus Kapparis good for waterskiing husbands hobby .Just a matter of personal choice I suppose. We are not fans of Spain
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don't forget to let us have your Spanish address and directions ;)
Of course, it'll be in the post ;)
then went to Spain in January and bought
Where in Spain Ian?
We are not fans of Spain
Any particular reason?
JF
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Like I said personal choice. I loved Turkey but I know a lot of people who went once and did not enjoy the experience I feel the same about Spain.
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Too scared to tell you - but it suited us as a base - 35 mins from Alicante - very expat (not just brits though) - Ciudad Quesada - lots of full time retirees - plenty of good quality builds - 20,000 population and busy all year as half live their full time and Guadamar's beautiful beaches only 10 mins away. Bought something in January - on a lovely site - that had just been refurbished to a high standard - so we could move in with 2 cases - which is all we brought back from Turkey :(
Paid a very good price for a "quick sale" and already seen an identical property on the same site reject an offer of €20,000 more than we paid - so happy that we have nothing to do in the place and if we don't like it - we won't lose much if anything at all.
I am slightly surprised at the level of taxes you have to pay in Spain - along with bank charges and high utility bills but then we were spoilt in Turkey - but our sites fees and council tax actually work out cheaper than in Turkey - so the savings can off set the utility bills !
The standard of food is superb - and prices are very reasonable - so overall it will do for us to "give it a go" and ultimately it's the outdoor Mediterranean lifestyle we want more than a "resale profit" at our time of life - leave you youngsters to the fast lane :)
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Ps forgot to say - been over twice already 2.5 hour flights - £25 each way per person with Ryanair - who I have never used before) but very pleased so far and we have two flights a day 365 days a year from our local airport :)
Pps forgot to say been watching this http://www.channel5.com/show/spectacular-spain-with-alex-polizzi/ (http://www.channel5.com/show/spectacular-spain-with-alex-polizzi/) - will be heading to Valencia in June for a few days
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For God's sake Ian, what sort of an appraisal of a place is that?
How much is
beer
glass of wine
fags
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I don't drink beer, don't smoke but I do know I picked a bottle or two of rose for Gill in the local supermarket for 1.5 euros and she said it was lovely
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I am slightly surprised at the level of taxes you have to pay in Spain - along with bank charges and high utility bills but then we were spoilt in Turkey - but our sites fees and council tax actually work out cheaper than in Turkey - so the savings can off set the utility bills !
Yeah, it's swings and roundabouts regarding bills in comparison to Turkey I reckon. You definitely need an accountant/tax guy to do your first years taxes, just so you get a grip of how its done. A lot of Spaniards pay someone to do their annual return, so when in Madrid..
Where we are heading a 500ml (roughly a pint) of Estrella is €1.50 and a smaller beer (300ml) is 90 cents. Glass of wine, probably about 175ml, is €1.20 and a sherry is €1 a pop - fino, oloroso etc. Spirits kick off from €3 inc mixer and fags are €4 plus the odds.
Wine, spirits and beer are incredibly cheap in the supermarket - decent quality reds, whites and roses €2/3, better quality stuff €4 to €6 and some seriously nice bottles still well under a tenner. Spirits are half to two thirds the price compared to the UK and a quarter of the price compared to Turkey!
Eating out is pretty cheap but the biggest difference from Turkey is quality of ingredients and variety of what's on offer. We can have 3 or 4 tapas and couple of drinks each for well under €15 at our local bar - and the portion size for tapas are a lot bigger than what you'll get in a tourist area.
JF
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All the very best JF,to you and yours. I hope your little bit of Portugal turns out to be all you want it to be.
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Will we be having a Forum offshoot, Espana Beach Forum.?? Eu never know. !! ;)
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Good luck in your new venture Ian. Vaja con Dios amigo!
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Good luck to all those off on a new adventure. We started ours two years ago in North Cyprus and truly haven't looked back. Twelve years in different parts of Turkey, all of which were wonderful. But unfortunately I couldn't remain in the country with the political situation as it is now. We toyed with Spain and the Canary Isles but decided here was the best move for us as our private medical insurance with Güneş sigorta could continue.
I really hope we shan't lose the input on here of people who understand what is going on as although I couldn't stay I am still very interested in following the situation.
Once again good luck with new adventures.
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Isn't Northern Cyprus Turkey/Turkish rule ???
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All the best with your new ventures in Spain, John.
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Love North Cyprus Bernie. Kyrenia is beautiful. I know Guardamar and Quesada well Ian as my ex mother-in-law has a villa 10mins drive from both. Used to go every year. Nice areas and Guardamar nice in the evenings with the market stalls. You should take a drive to Elche and Guadalest up in the hills, it's beautiful.
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Bernie.....
From Wikipedia:
''Northern Cyprus (Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs), officially the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC; Turkish: Kuzey Kıbrıs Türk Cumhuriyeti), is a self-declared state that comprises the northeastern portion of the island of Cyprus. Recognised only by Turkey, Northern Cyprus is considered by the international community to be part of the Republic of Cyprus.''
It is most definitely not Turkey and not ruled by Turkey. I think with what I said previously it's unlikely I would have chosen to live here if it were so.
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We thought it a very lovely country when we visited 15 years ago. I hope you've kept it that way Laura. All the best of Turkish culture without Erdogan and his thugs. Looking forward to being there in June.
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Good luck with the move to Spain.My sister bought a lovely place out there years ago and was very happy for many years. The one thing she said to watch out for if you buy in some areas the water supply can be from a well you have to have drilled yourself which can be expensive.The local people were very welcoming and friendly in her village and the local food and wine very good.There were loads of festivals to celebrate saints and I went to some and had a great time.Watch out for you water you if you buy out on your own a bit though.
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I truly hope you enjoy your holiday in June Colwyn though, as I'm sure I said before, you are going to find the place has changed greatly in fifteen years. It will be very interesting to hear your thoughts afterwards.
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It is most definitely not Turkey and not ruled by Turkey.
And yet they use the Turkish Lira.
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And yet they drive on the left.
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And yet they drive on the left.
So do many Turkish drivers. ;)
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Watch this space:
http://levantinemusings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/could-turkey-make-northern-cyprus-its.html (http://levantinemusings.blogspot.co.uk/2017/01/could-turkey-make-northern-cyprus-its.html)
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Well as the referendum has already happened and there was no annexation I think we can rest peacefully in our beds. The great leader has enough on his plate without worrying about this little piece of territory.
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The great leader has enough on his plate in his trough without worrying about this little piece of territory.
There you go Laura, fixed it for you ;)
JF
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Shoe beat me to it John. ;)
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Will we be having a Forum offshoot, Espana Beach Forum.?? Eu never know. !! ;)
You know me well ;)
I did think about it, but to be honest... after almost twenty years of creating, administering, owning, and otherwise being involved with online forums all relating to Turkey I reckon I've had enough. I don't think I've got the oomph any more to do this kinda stuff from scratch (there you go Alan, great in for a wanky picture :) ).
Dispensing my seriously secular perspective (in respect of TR) nonsense on here is about as much as I've got the energy for now.
JF
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We'll have to make do with a blog then. ;) ;) ;) ;)
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there you go Alan, great in for a wanky picture :) .
I've sent you a personal one that I hope you'll cherish. ;)
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Good luck with your move & enjoy Spain
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Well, house went on market last Thursday and was offered the asking price on Saturday. A bit of haggling and ended up with it sold yesterday (subject to usual contracts etc), for a good chunk over asking price and the geezer even gave us a cash deposit to show his sincerity.
You wouldn't believe the hangover I've got this morning, and my OH ain't looking to bright either.
JF
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Congratulations lad, I'll raise a ginger beer to you come lunchtime.
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Congratulations.... Hope you find what you are looking for... x
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Does this mean you're stateless, or just in a state JF.?
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Great news! A wonderful new family venture! I hope it's perfect! 8)
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:)Great news, all the very best to you and your family. ;D
Is new house chosen?
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Thanks folks.
No, new house was sort of chosen but as it was at the higher end of the budget we've set, we decided to wait till uk house was sold before committing any substantial amounts of money elsewhere. Unfortunately, someone else thought the same as we did and it went last Friday.
OH was a bit disappointed but only that, it's no biggie - plenty more on the market and if need be we'll rent again until the right place comes up. Away from the main tourist regions, the market in the south west of Spain is pretty flat just now, lot of stuff been hanging around for a good while and not that many new places coming on the market. There's a few places over our budget that we may have a look at and try a cheeky offer :)
It's not that dissimilar to Turkey in some respects, properties on with multiple agents at varying prices, descriptions and photographs. Then of course you have the owners trying to sell the same property on the Spanish equivalent to Gumtree or Sahibinden. Again like Turkey, some owners really need to stop and take a quick reality check - sorry amigo, but that delicately balanced pile of rubble may be a casa para reformar (house to restore) worth €150,000 to you, but it just screams MONEYPIT to anyone with half a brain - which explains why its been on the market for over nine months.
We've factored in renting for up to twelve months when doing our sums (on the back of a fag packet as they say :) ) so pretty relaxed about the whole thing.
I'm off now to be a bueno öğrenci and practice my Spanglish on some students :)
JF