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Title: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Ray1951 on May 31, 2017, 21:10:53 PM
In a week's time voters in the U.K. and expat's in Turkey and elsewhere may cast their votes for whatever party they think will do the best for the UK, their families and friends.  Living the good life albeit things are changing in the world, what does it mean to you?  The impact of Brexit may affect expats more than anything else but things are changing everywhere and in Turkey too.  What does all of this mean to you?
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Stuart T on May 31, 2017, 22:02:20 PM
Firstly, until comparatively recently, I may well have become an ex pat. Recent Turkish developments have determined that I will not be - certainly not in the near future.

The Conservatives are a shoo in. Teresa May will be voted in as the next Prime Minister.

Despite recent surprises regarding Brexit and Trump, the polls will have this one spot on. Corbyn is unelectable.

What it means to me is that I will continue to take 1 or 2 holidays a year in Fethiye and thoroughly enjoy all that this beautiful, warm and welcoming part of the world has to offer.





Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Ray1951 on July 28, 2018, 11:22:06 AM

Taken from Daily Recird dated 28 July 2018
Patients, including Theresa May who relies on insulin , could be "seriously disadvantaged" in the event of a no-deal Brexit , the chairman of the UK's medicines regulator has warned.

Sir Michael Rawlins, of the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA), said supplies of insulin and other medication which is not manufactured in the UK, may be disrupted in such a scenario.

Officials need to make sure drugs do not run out if a deal with the European Union is not reached, Sir Michael told the Pharmaceutical Journal.

The Prime Minister, who has Type 1 diabetes, has previously said she regularly injects with insulin to manage the condition.

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The comments come after new Health and Social Care Secretary Matt Hancock revealed officials are considering working with the industry to stockpile drugs, medical devices and supplies in the event of a no-deal.

Speaking in an "personal capacity", Sir Michael told the Pharmaceutical Journal: "There are problems, and the Department for Exiting the EU and the Department of Health and Social Care need to work out how it's going to work.

"Here's just one example why: We make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it.

"You can't transport insulin around ordinarily because it must be temperature-controlled."

Many diabetic people rely on insulin, Sir Michael said, "not least the Prime Minister".

He added: "Disruption to the supply chain is one of the ways that patients could be seriously disadvantaged.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: KKOB on July 28, 2018, 11:38:02 AM
Abbott Labs, Bayer, GSK and Eli-Lilly all have insulin manufacturing sites in the UK.

I'm not sure that they can stockpile insulin anyway. It has to be kept in a refrigerator for no more than 28 days after production. If frozen, it "kills" it.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2018, 12:09:21 PM

"Here's just one example why: We make no insulin in the UK. We import every drop of it.



Abbott Labs, Bayer, GSK and Eli-Lilly all have insulin manufacturing sites in the UK.


Keep the "facts" coming Ray, you're doing great :D
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: JohnF on July 28, 2018, 14:20:22 PM
Abbott Labs, Bayer, GSK and Eli-Lilly all have insulin manufacturing sites in the UK.

Actually they don't. 

Lilly's plant is in the Netherlands, Bayer and GSK simply don't and Abbott Labs primarily produce diabetes monitoring systems.
All may have had at some point in time, but not any more.

JF
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Scunner on July 28, 2018, 14:58:00 PM
I don't know about the others but I believe GSK do - KKOB will fill in the details  :)
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: 1calis on July 28, 2018, 15:05:19 PM
This is beginning to sound like project fear mark 2.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: saoirse on July 28, 2018, 15:07:34 PM
I know

Ignore the Independent . Much better to rely on those organs of truth like The Mail or Express. How's that £350 mill for the NHS coming along!!!!!
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: KKOB on July 28, 2018, 15:34:27 PM
I collected a pallet of Humulin, insulin for human use, from Elli-Lilly in Basingstoke just a couple of weeks ago. Delivered it to the RVI in Newcastle upon Tyne.  Pretty sure the paperwork said it was of UK origin.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: JohnF on July 28, 2018, 16:13:31 PM
If indeed manufactured in the UK, it is licensed from the Netherlands  ;)

Without carrying out an in depth study, to prove or disprove an issue that may never arise, as far as I know the majority of Lilly's insulin products are controlled by:

Eli Lilly Nederland B.V., Papendorpseweg 83, 3528 BJ Utrecht, The Netherlands.

JF
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Ray1951 on July 29, 2018, 13:54:59 PM
The press (like them, love them, hate them or disbelieve them) are starting to ramp up the possibilities about lack of certain medicines, food and possible problems with flights. It can be regarded as scaremongering or just a warning of ‘possibilities’ such as the following:

Army on standby for Brexit chaos: Troops will deliver food, medicine and fuel if Britain crashes out of EU without a deal as supermarkets issue warning to stockpile essential items
Plans have been drawn up to use helicopters and trucks to deliver supplies
The revelation will provoke fresh claims from Brexiteers of 'scaremongering'
Supermarket have warned suppliers to start stockpiling fuel, food and medicine
 Brexit secretary Dominic Raab insisted there would be adequate food supplies
By JOE MIDDLETON FOR MAILONLINE
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Ministers have contemplated using the army to deliver food and medical supplies if Britain crashes out of the EU with 'no deal'.

Plans have been drawn to use helicopters and army trucks to take supplies to vulnerable people outside the south east who might need medicine, according to The Sunday Times.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Scunner on July 29, 2018, 14:32:04 PM
The press (like them, love them, hate them or disbelieve them) are starting to ramp up the possibilities about
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It can be regarded as scaremongering or just a warning of ‘possibilities’ such as the following


A complete sidestep in stance from you now Ray, quoting stories that you state may or may not be true about Britain Post-Brexit.

A welcome alteration from you posting similar stories and claiming them to be factual supporting evidence of a bleak future.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Ray1951 on July 29, 2018, 23:47:02 PM
I have posted excepts from the press. You’ve tried to shoot me down for scaremongering which was never my intention.  I have always accepted people’s choice to believe or disbelieve BUT it’s evident every day that things that I’ve posted in the past are becoming more prevalent in the press every day.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Scunner on July 30, 2018, 00:21:51 AM
I have posted excepts from the press. You’ve tried to shoot me down for scaremongering which was never my intention. 


Sorry Ray, that simply isn't true. You have been barking "truths" from people "in the know" for a while, but here you are today claiming they are opinions that may or may not be true or accurate. Here is you simply posting "excepts" from the press a short time ago while today you "accept people's choice to believe or disbelieve":

These are factual reports, provided by politicians and people in the know.


I think you are dead in the water but carry on if you feel you have any credibility left to do so.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Ray1951 on July 31, 2018, 14:35:05 PM
You should run for PM, you fit the bill well.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: Scunner on July 31, 2018, 17:34:49 PM
Finally you are starting to post correct information  ;)

I’m way too honest for that but if I did, I’d stop all this Brexit nonsense on my first morning.
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: scorcher on July 31, 2018, 18:15:52 PM
You've got me fretting about the EuroMillions lottery now Ray......
Title: Re: UK General Election/Brexit
Post by: stoop on August 01, 2018, 10:58:25 AM
The press (like them, love them, hate them or disbelieve them) are starting to ramp up the possibilities about lack of certain medicines, food and possible problems with flights. It can be regarded as scaremongering or just a warning of ‘possibilities’ such as the following:

Army on standby for Brexit chaos: Troops will deliver food, medicine and fuel if Britain crashes out of EU without a deal as supermarkets issue warning to stockpile essential items
Plans have been drawn up to use helicopters and trucks to deliver supplies
The revelation will provoke fresh claims from Brexiteers of 'scaremongering'
Supermarket have warned suppliers to start stockpiling fuel, food and medicine
 Brexit secretary Dominic Raab insisted there would be adequate food supplies
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PUBLISHED: 09:09, 29 July 2018 | UPDATED: 13:22, 29 July 2018

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Ministers have contemplated using the army to deliver food and medical supplies if Britain crashes out of the EU with 'no deal'.

Plans have been drawn to use helicopters and army trucks to take supplies to vulnerable people outside the south east who might need medicine, according to The Sunday Times.

Project Fear on steroids (assuming we can still get them  ;)).

Can't you see that May is trying all she can to get people to swallow her Chequers Plan. She's instructed her minions to ramp up the fear factor so that we all suddenly decide she was correct all along and we either go with her plan or (when the EU reject it) we beg her for Ref2.

Unfortunately for her most of the public aren't that gullible - as she will soon find out if she dares to try and keep us in the EU by the back door.