Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Turkey Related Subjects => Turkey Discussion Forum (Not Calis specifically) => Topic started by: Colwyn on March 08, 2016, 18:28:13 PM
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Turkey has been under the spotlight today in UK news media. Following yesterday's proposed deal between the EU and Turkey questions have been raised about Turkey's reliability and suitability as an EU partner - let alone EU member. The coverage has highlighted things we all know but many UK and European leaders wish to ignore: that Turkey has an appalling human record; that freedom of expression is under attack (e.g. Zaman); that the independence of courts is dubious. In addition I've heard doubts raised about the the stability of the Turkish economy. There has even been a Kurdish spokesperson interviewed on BBC radio. An academic from a UK university was asked if these things were improving to allow Turkey to be considered for EU membership - oh no, she replied, they are getting much worse. But Turkey is a buffer between Europe and Syria, and also provides NATO airbases for the USA to bomb Syria, so governments aren't going to say too much about these things.
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This what Katie Hopkins has to say about it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482557/KATIE-HOPKINS-Turkey-s-migrant-blackmail-plan-remember-scene-Midnight-Express-know-poor-kid-felt.html
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Just read it all KKOB - somewhat difficult to argue with it (plus, I don't really know enough to challenge the views she puts forward).
Any enlightenment welcome.....
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So much bad press in the English papers at the moment about Turkey in general :( and the recent news from the UTI that UK bookings to Turkey for 2016 are already 40% down on last year..it really is going to be a bumpy ride for tourism businesses this season... and many will `go under ` I feel :(
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This what Katie Hopkins has to say about it:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3482557/KATIE-HOPKINS-Turkey-s-migrant-blackmail-plan-remember-scene-Midnight-Express-know-poor-kid-felt.html
Soon as someone makes serious comment on Turkey and refers to Billy Hayes wonderful piece of fiction, Midnight Express, they lose all credibility. I suppose that put the eloquent and knowledgeable Ms Hopkins into a state of negative credibility...
JF
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Katie Hopkins ! As if her views are worth a ****e,the woman who called Adam Johnsons 15yr old victim a slag and publicly states that although guilty Johnson is not a paedophile .Wont even bother to read her ever again.
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I am no fan of the self publicist but, her assessment of Turkey today and the Migrant situation is I think spot on,
as is her descriptions of the politicians / leaders involved.
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She may not always be right but I agree with Kevin on this one she's got it spot on.
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So folks (after now bothering to actually read her article) what has she got spot on?
All she's done is pile together assorted snippets (some correct, some not) from a variety of sources and presented them as... (what?) I'm not really sure what this is. Comes across as a rant from someone who doesn't understand the topic she's actually writing about, with thinly veiled racist undertones.
Thank you Ms Hopkins, its been a blast - shame I wont get the two to three minutes spent reading your scribblings back.
JF
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,the woman who called Adam Johnsons 15yr old victim a slag and publicly states that although guilty Johnson is not a paedophile .
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children, generally age 11 years or younger.
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shame I wont get the two to three minutes spent reading your scribblings back.
I gave up, disgusted, after the first paragraph. Thus saving 2m45s which I spent separating 3 egg yolks to mix with caster sugar to make a custard for my vanilla ice cream. I think I'm ahead on this episode.
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Whingers Lotty, whingers. ;)
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KKOB I don't really get your post other than it is definition lifted from somewhere.In my view a grown man who grooms and has sexual contact with a child ie under the age of consent is a paedophile and should be castrated at the very least
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;) ;D
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And I'll always respect your right to have your view Steve.
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Steve A - and the age of consent is.........?
"grooms and has sexual contact with a child i.e. under the age of consent"....
...Masai in Africa - girls marrying at 13. Normally a child or two by 15 years of age.
Goodness knows what it is in other countries.
That has to be wrong doesn't it?
Shall we castrate all Masai men?
Ah - I see - maybe it's only English girls that it applies to.
I don't know what the answer is - we have taken an arbitrary age of 16 - perhaps it should be 18 (unfortunately 3/4 of Torbay girls would then be prosecuting their rapists and you'd calling for their balls to be cut off).
Perhaps we should have an "age gap" offence - a 25 year old man with a 15 year old - cut his balls off.
A 16 year old virgin boy with a 15 year old promiscuous girl - going to cut his off?
Not quite so easy is it?
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We have a rule of law,if you believe in the law and abide by it you can take the view I have.
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This is "Turkey in the News" but in appreciation of the deviational nature of the CBF topic, I shall offer this.
Why is it so many people in the public eye have been pursued (Paul Gambachini for example) with nothing more than nasty, unfounded and ultimately dropped accusations being made public, but Bill Wyman opening admitted starting a relationship with his later wife Mandy Smith when she was 13.
Interestingly, while the tactile "different times" explained by Dave Lee Travis back then were dismissed as a defence in 2015, 'back then' the antics of Wyman were seen as fair play to the old boy, pulling a 13/14 year old at his age. Even in the modern day where attitudes have (rightly) changed, nobody is interested in going after Wyman?
Something is amiss to say the very least.
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And I bet you've never exceeded 70mph on a UK road Steve ?
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I agree Scunner,her parents should be ashamed and he would be on my list for castration.
We could go further back and look at Elvis,sorry to threadcrap.
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KKOB my views are about safeguarding children,if we don't who will?i think a mile or two over the limit causes a lot less harm and is no comparison
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The law is the law, so what about the 1,400 young girls in Rotherham who were kidnapped, raped, drugged, tortured, pimped,
and passed around by at least 400+ Pakistani suspects who have never been prosecuted because of their race.? Many policemen
and council officials have been implicated and many more turned a blind eye. It is reported that there are many groups of Pakistani
men around the UK that have known to have been grooming young white girls for years. Many of these girls are / were 10 &11 yrs.
The police have spent hundreds of thousands of pounds over 18 months, including an orchestrated "raid" investigating Cliff Richard.
He hasn't been arrested or charged but his name has been dragged through the mud. The law and it's officials are sometimes a
sick and expensive sad joke.
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I'm beginning to wish I had started a thread on statutory rape which might have deteriorated into a discussion of Turkey in the UK news.
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Having a whinge are we.?? :)
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Oh dear, does every thread this week have to have a reference to whinging? I'd like to moan about that.
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Don't blame me, blame that bloke Alixandria. He started it. !! ???
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There is sufficient blame for the two of you to share it.
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Behave!
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe
Interesting reading. Spain raised it from 13 to 16 in 2015!
Still some countries allowing 14 year old girls to be sexually active with older men.
Back to Turkey in the Uk news - McKenzie had a real go at the regime yesterday. Not good for the decent people trying to run businesses based in tourism.