Our neighbours always used the place on Baris Manco, they had bikes and used to buy bikes for their visitors to use. One day we took them to the big Kipa to shop they looked at the bikes and they though they were cheap and decided to get a couple. Now, I know little about bikes and this was a few years ago, as I recall, the bikes had to be sent by Kipa to a place up the Antalya Road to be made ready for the road and neighbour's had to pick them up check they were O.K. and ride them back.. Next day we drove up this road, with our neighbours but could not find the place, it is a very long road. . They were told that bikes could not be delivered and if they got someone to pick them up, there was no guarantee as they had not checked them out themselves. Eventually, they did get them picked up in a van and when they arrived one had a twisted frame, as there was no guarantee our neighbour's had to sort the frame out themselves.
In the long run, neighbours said the bikes were not that good and they decided they should have gone back to the guy in B.M. They have been back ever since and said he was the best and they regretted the Kipa bikes.