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Property For Sale in Calis Beach & Turkey => Buying Property in Calis Beach, Fethiye and Turkey => Topic started by: russbear16 on February 13, 2011, 23:28:42 PM

Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 13, 2011, 23:28:42 PM
Has anyone come across a situation where a mortgage has been fraudulently left on their property which is then transfered to a 3rd party, then reassigned to a 4th and then to a 5th party before you can track them down?  Does anyone know if the transfer and subsequent ownership of that debt is recorded by some kind of agency?  All help would be gratefully received
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: Scunner on February 13, 2011, 23:30:12 PM
"Owns your mortgage"? Only you own your mortgage...
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 13, 2011, 23:36:58 PM
A mortgage is a charge held on your property and as such is registered as a debt belonging to the Mortgagee not the owner of the property.  Was hoping you would pick up as with your wealth of all things Turkish - am sure you will be able to offer some sound advise.  Thanks in advance
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: Scunner on February 13, 2011, 23:40:07 PM
Thank you for the lesson. Your mortgage is your mortgage. Nobody else can "own" your mortgage but you. What I think you need to do is tell us what has happened, enough of this 4th party and 5th party nonsense. We'll help all we can.
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 13, 2011, 23:43:41 PM
Our Tapu was transferred into our names by our builder before we had made the final "stage" payment to him.  At the time he put a mortgage on our Tapu equal to the amount still outstanding.  When the final payment was made to him he signed a receipt at our Turkish Solicitors stating that he had no further "interest" in our property and that he was going to remove the mortgage the following day.

6 years on we found out that the mortgage was never removed and we have had to take the builder to Court.

The builder has since assigned the mortgage to a 3rd party who we have had to join in to the court file at additional expense and we have just found out that that person has  assigned the debt to someone else who has now assigned the debt to someone else.

Can you help with some advise - surely there must be an Agency that records the ownership/transfer so that we can stop this happening again before we can get the 3rd/4th/5th party to Court?

Any help would be appreciated
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: Scunner on February 13, 2011, 23:58:37 PM
Have emailed you privately
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 14, 2011, 00:00:43 AM
Thank you very much appreciated
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: GordonA on February 14, 2011, 00:19:16 AM
Obviously part of the A1 Estate agency legacy. I think that it will turn out to have been a "Bank Credit", & not a mortgage per se. Fly barstewards!! [:(!] I think you are going to have an uphill struggle, bonny lad!!
Gordy.
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 14, 2011, 00:26:27 AM
Sorry to be dim but what is a Bank Credit?
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: loz on February 14, 2011, 00:31:34 AM
your time span of 6 years probably is not a mortgage, it is a bank credit, a loan, debt, bank, friend or whatever,  smart move on the builders part, written confirmation that he has nothing further to do with your property, no comeback.

Debt is secured on the property, will show if you want to sell, or the 'creditor' wants their money they come to the owner of the property.

(too late for all this now, brain frazzled)
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 14, 2011, 01:21:07 AM
yep - thanks for that - just off to committ suicide!!!!
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: kizkucuk on February 14, 2011, 08:27:54 AM
Oh russbear16 - sorry no advice to give and no first hand experience but know lots of people who have - I hope you are able to sort it all out and are not left too much out of pocket.  An Estate Agent this week told me that there are currently 1500 disputes of this kind going through the courts system in Fethiye.   I know that's not much of a consolation but at least a number of them are likely to be members on here who can offer you advice.    Good Luck
Title: do you know who really owns your mortgage?
Post by: russbear16 on February 14, 2011, 08:45:12 AM
Thanks for your reply - Scunner's already been a great help and I am sure some of the others you mention will be in touch (it really doesn't help when you get flipant replies though!!).  Is it any wonder the Fethiye Court is so clogged up.