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Title: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: nichola on March 12, 2018, 16:07:10 PM
I wondered if anyone was doing Keto to lose weight and how they have found it, what if any quick and easy recipes they've discovered they could share and whether this would be a good place to discuss questions and issues...
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: KKOB on March 12, 2018, 16:13:14 PM
The Ketogenic Diet is primarily for the treatment of epilepsy, it's not recommended for weight loss.
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: nichola on March 12, 2018, 16:54:56 PM
oooh a controversial start   ;)

It's good for many things including reversing one of the diabetes (2 I think) too...

As far as I can see it's a perfectly healthy way of eating and I've scoured the many web sites full of delicious snacks and meals and if weight loss follows then that's a bonus
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Toky on March 12, 2018, 21:42:30 PM
Is that a kind of Atkins diet Nichola?
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Anne on March 12, 2018, 22:13:17 PM
Google here I come.  Have never heard of it
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: BernieTeyze on March 13, 2018, 09:16:07 AM
A lot of the ladies in and around fethiye do it, with much success. It's a bit like atkins. There are loads of Facebook groups all advising what to eat,recipes,etc. Even one for beginners! When I read you could start your day with bulletproof coffee, I realised then it wasn't for me..yuuukk

1 cup brewed coffee (or black tea - check out this recipe for Tibetan Butter Tea)
1 tbsp extra virgin coconut oil or MCT oil
1 tbsp unsalted grass-fed butter or ghee
3 egg yolks (don't worry, they won't cook)
1 tbsp collagen (hydrolyzed gelatin)
¼ - ½ tsp cinnamon
3-5 drops of stevia or a teaspoon of Erythritol or Swerve or other healthy low-carb sweetener from this list (I personally don't use any)
2 tbsp coconut milk or heavy whipping cream

Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: nichola on March 13, 2018, 12:50:59 PM
The thing about Keto is, it isn't a diet.

It's about eating to change the way your body fuels its energy. Instead of burning sugar for energy you burn fats. Fats you eat and excess fats your body has stored.

Yes you cut out complex carbs - rice, bread, potatos and pasta because they immediately turn to sugar as they're digested. People that are diabetic will probably know these cause insulin spikes and in fact carbs never satisfy hunger they just make you more hungry and therefore likely to eat more.

You can eat meat in moderation. Fish is generally great, salmon, shrimps, sardines etc especially those high in omega 3 and other fatty fish high in nutrients and vitamins. Cheese is ok too.

Obviously processed foods are out. No ready meals, cakes and biscuits other than those made probably yourself to a Keto recipe and there's lots of options on the numerous Keto recipe web sites.

Good fats are in, avocados, nuts, cold pressed olive oil, coconut oil, butter... in fact a high intake of good fats is essential as that's what you're training your body to burn for energy instead of sugar.

Vegetables overall are good, and fruits because of the higher levels of 'natural sugar' to a lesser extent. Eating vegetables and fruits with a low carb content and or have a high fiber content. Fiber content can be deducted from the carb content to give you the exact actual carb impact.

Also the glycemic load of foods, those that slowly release sugar as opposed to those that give you an instant hit and insulin spikes, the latter should be avoided. For example lentils are a complex carb but they have a slow glycemic load and lots of fiber so I haven't personally excluded these.

I got interested in modifying my own eating after a friend was diagnosed as at risk from Diabetes. As a scientist and teacher he did a lot of research which I personally feel I've benefited from. No one talked then about Keto it was just something I discovered as I did my own research. I have to say I balked at the idea of increasing my intake of fat and certainly haven't increased it as high as suggested.

If you have a sweet tooth like me then chocolate made with 70+ cocoa is a superfood and I find a couple of pieces instead of a whole bar is enough. Nuts if you're peckish are full of good oils, potassium and other essential nutrients.

I've really enjoyed experimenting with new meals and snacks and now they're an integral part of what we eat. After a while you don't miss bread, rice or pasta at all and the benefits of a flat instead of a bloated stomach are worth any initial inconvenience.

These are just some of the things about Keto I've picked up along the way and I'm by no means an expert, nor follow a programme, or even count carbs. I'm just aware the more I learn, about what I can eat or get away with eating.

It does take a few weeks normally before you'll see any significant results but after a couple of months you'll definitely see the kilos disappear.

By the way my friend has reversed his at risk from Diabetes diagnosis.
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: JohnF on March 13, 2018, 13:25:57 PM
Oh, so with one or two exclusións it's really just a healthy and balanced diet?

 :)

JF
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: nichola on March 13, 2018, 13:28:41 PM
Pretty much  ;D
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Stuart T on March 13, 2018, 17:08:50 PM
No rice, bread, potatoes or pasta, ready meals, cakes or biscuits (I can do without the sweet stuff although I'd miss my dunked Rich Tea biscuits).

It's okay to eat lentils, nuts, avocados and coconut oil, vegetables and meat in moderation.

As a short - term, weight loss idea I'm sure it's sound but I wouldn't want to live on that for the rest of my (shortened by my unhealthy diet) life.

I enjoy my food (too much) and don't eat just to fuel my energy.

Good luck and best of health to those with the discipline to see it through for the rest of your lives.

Irony - I'd probably get hit by a truck and killed cycling to the Health Food Shop.


Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: nichola on March 13, 2018, 19:47:24 PM
That's not all you can eat Stuart... they are just a few examples to illustrate the different points.

I love food, as anyone that knows me well can tell you, and my meals are more varied and more delicious than ever. Eating tasty food that just happens to be healthy and beneficial is hardly a hardship nor a life sentence.
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Stuart T on March 13, 2018, 20:35:58 PM
I know you make sense Nichola; it's just the thought of what I can't eat rather than what I can.

No rice for curries or for chilli con carne or risotto; no noodles or rice with Chinese and Indian food;  no spag bol; no egg and chips; toast and marmite; soldiers for my eggs; mashed spuds with the liver and bacon; fish and no chips; no more sandwiches at lunchtime;

As said, I admire those of you with the discipline to do it. I enjoy all the above too much to give them up.

Perhaps, with such eating habits, smaller portions of all that I like is a sensible route.

Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Anne on March 13, 2018, 21:04:40 PM
I'm with you Stuart, I could'nt do it either.
We do eat healthily and I do cook our meals from scratch but the thought of not having another bit of bread or pasta fills me with dread.
Good luck Nichola, if it works for you then why not?
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Scunner on March 14, 2018, 00:05:08 AM
I am on a diet presently in order to get my beach body back in time for our 2018 holidays.

It's my own diet plan. No snacks, no sweets, no takeaways, no chocolate, no crisps, no desserts, no alcohol.

So far I have lost the will to live.
Title: Re: Keto - eating as a lifestyle
Post by: Steve A on March 14, 2018, 00:19:40 AM
I think it’s very similar to the Atkins which I did years ago and lost a couple or three stone quite quickly but couldn’t do it as a lifestyle so put it all back on.However when I want to lose a few pounds I cut out all carbs and it works