Thank you Woody very appreciative of the information you have shared with us all, I have managed to get it working but I only pay 26 TL a month for my ADSL at the moment, do you need unlimited ADSL, we dont watch tv through the day at all only in the evening but I wondered if I would be hit with a big bill from TT Net, does anybody know how many hours you get, sorry not very technical with computer language. Once again thanks for the information.