Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Information and Services in Turkey Section => Cars, Bikes, Scooters, MOTs, Speeding... => Topic started by: kizkucuk on December 05, 2011, 10:11:30 AM
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If it's on a MB plate only the named owner on the registration documents is allowed to drive it. Police stopping people this morning at Gunlukbasi - I am now the proud owner of my first Turkish fine .............. luckily they allowed me to go and collect my scooter rather than impounding it - the registered owner gets fined not the driver. He explained in English that only I was allowed to drive it and luckily I had the sense to act dumb and didn't say - I know............... still fined 290 lira with a discount of 15% if paid within 2 weeks :-(
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Wow, that's a lot of money.
Gecmis olsun.
I always assumed that it wouldn't be a problem if another foreigner was driving the car but apparently it is.
Spouses are allowed to drive, aren't they?
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I am confused, I thought anyone with the family surname was allowed to drive the car.....
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Turkish nationals are not allowed to drive MA, MB, ME etc registered vehicles (only on road test from Garage). Only members of family with same surname can drive vehicle if Registration docs are stamped accordingly
(box (7.2) Diger Bilgiler. "araci sahibi ve aile fertlerinden baskasi tarafindan kullanilamazon" must be stamped in docs)
or the persons are named individually on the registration docs if they have different surnames.
Then again, I have a minibus, and anybody can drive it!!!!
Foreign nationals can only drive Turkish plated vehicle if it is a hire car or they hold citizenship/dual citizenship.
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Also don't forget to carry your driving licence with you at all times as this is also a seperate fine 166 TL.
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Times are changing - I remember being stopped on the Baris Mango highway on the way to a beach barbecue one Sunday morning. The policeman came to the window, looked then waved me on. I did my best "what were you checking" face and he did a diagonal gesture which signified seatbelts in any language. The four kids in the boot space weren't a problem then, the driver had his seatbelt on... :)
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I was clearly told in English - only you are allowed to drive it - there is something written in Turkish on the documents to say that. It could have been a lot worse. At least they didn't take the scooter which they could have. Then I wouold have the impounding and storage charges on it. Spouse cannot drive it if they are Turkish.
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Lets clear this up.
On a MA-MZ plate cars, only the owner and immediate family are allowed to drive plus one nominated Turkish driver for which you inform the emniyet. Non MA-MZ plated cars can be driven by non Turkish nationals and doesnt have to be hire car or be a dual citizen. That bit is rubbish as I have been driving a non misafir plate car for almost 20 years and so has my wife and 100s of others I know.
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Non MA-MZ plated cars can be driven by non Turkish nationals and doesnt have to be hire car or be a dual citizen. That bit is rubbish as I have been driving a non misafir plate car for almost 20 years and so has my wife and 100s of others I know
So why bother with MA-MZ plates??
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You say about MB plate only what about ME plate.[?]
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Originally posted by kizkucuk
If it's on a MB plate only the named owner on the registration documents is allowed to drive it. Police stopping people this morning at Gunlukbasi - I am now the proud owner of my first Turkish fine .............. luckily they allowed me to go and collect my scooter rather than impounding it - the registered owner gets fined not the driver. He explained in English that only I was allowed to drive it and luckily I had the sense to act dumb and didn't say - I know............... still fined 290 lira with a discount of 15% if paid within 2 weeks :-(
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@Diverbaz,
As a foreigner you can only own a MA-MZ vehicle.
You can't have a Turkish licence plate in your name unless you have dual citizenship.
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Some foreigners decide to avoid the misafir plate by registering the car under a Turkish nationals name or a company name.
Basically we have 3 cars. 2 are owned by Turkish companies for which we are perfectly legal to drive. The other is registered under a friends name but we paid for it and keep it ourselves and drive all the time for which there is no problems what so ever.
MA through to MZ are all the same and are just simply assigned to foreigners. Some people dont wish to be singled out this way as it just advertises that the car is owned by a foreigner. This sort of system outside of diplomats doesnt occur in other countries like the UK.
I remember a few years ago that hire car companies in Florida had to change their plate system as tourists were being targeted by villains.
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Non MA-MZ plated cars can be driven by non Turkish nationals and doesnt have to be hire car or be a dual citizen. That bit is rubbish as I have been driving a non misafir plate car for almost 20 years and so has my wife and 100s of others I know.
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Some foreigners decide to avoid the misafir plate by registering the car under a Turkish nationals name or a company name.
Basically we have 3 cars. 2 are owned by Turkish companies for which we are perfectly legal to drive. The other is registered under a friends name but we paid for it and keep it ourselves and drive all the time for which there is no problems what so ever.
20 years driving a Company car, putting another car in a turks name!!!! What I put was not "rubbish" then for the average foreigner not working in Turkey.
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
Foreign nationals can only drive Turkish plated vehicle if it is a hire car or they hold citizenship/dual citizenship.
basically saying that normal registered cars cant be driven by foreigners unless they are hire cars is not true.
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OK, I bow to your superior knowledge, Foreign nationals can only drive Turkish plated vehicle if it is a hire car or they hold citizenship/dual citizenship or WORK here.
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I didnt say work. Foreign nationals can drive normal plated cars (obviously not military or other goverment branches) aslong as they have the proper type driving license. doesnt matter if you work here or not.
Why not change your reply to...
Foreign nationals can only drive Turkish plated vehicle if they have a the correct driving license (ie the correct groups).
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So what you are saying is I have a Turkish driving license I can drive a turkish plated vehicle, and do not need to have a MA-MZ plated car?
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You said foreign nationals can not drive cars in Turkey unless they are M plated or hire cars. Doesnt matter if you have a Turkish DL or a UK one aslong as your license says you are ok to drive that type of vehicle. It doesnt state anywhere that a Turkish national is not allowed to let a foreigner drive their car.
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I´m just a Dutchie but isn´t there a difference between driving a car and owning a car?
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Yes Dutchie - A Turkish citizen has a Turkish plate but anyone can drive it provided they have the appropriate licence. A foreigner has the MA - MZ plates and there are limitations as to who can drive it. A Turkish person cannot. In the case of my MB scooter my Turkish husband is not allowed to drive it. The good to come out of it is that he is now talking about buying a car in his name for me to drive.
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A new car because of a fine. Not bad :P
By the way, I was just trying to be sarcastic in my previous post since the other members seemed to be talking about two different things: driving vs owning a car.
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Originally posted by Rindaloo
I am confused, I thought anyone with the family surname was allowed to drive the car.....
Yes me too, at least that's what we were told 3 year ago, only my husband's name is on the docs and everyone said "no problem you can drive as your name is the same". I wouldn't have bothered to get a DL otherwise.
But apparently they have now changed the rules ....... or have they?
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Originally posted by kizkucuk
In the case of my MB scooter my Turkish husband is not allowed to drive it.
You will find that as you are married to your husband, he can in fact drive your scooter. The ruling is that any members of immediate family (which includes your husband) can drive a M plate and 1 nominated turkish driver although you must show that you are employing him to be your driver.
When I was married to a Turk, she drove my M plate car all the time and once she got in an accident she just showed her ID and proof that she was married to me, the owner. This satisfied the police and the insurance company.
Thankfully I dont have an M (blue plate) plate anymore as they were too much hassle.
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Kizkucuk summed it up accurately.
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but a Turkish national can drive a misafir plate if they are next of kin to the owner of the vehicle.
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Today in Adiyaman my wife (who owns the car(MB plated minibus) and is named on the Ruhsat) was stopped for speeding.
After the checks and documentation was completed I got into the driving seat. The policemen told me that I cannot drive because my name was not on the Ruhsat.
Does anyone know if I can get my name added in Fethiye or must we go to Mugla?
In addition, does anyone know the speed limits for a minibus on the different types of road. We know that a single carriageway the limit is 80. But what are the limits on a dual carriageway and motorway?
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I thought family (same surname)could drive the car. I have driven our car which is registered in my husbands name and although stopped at usual police checks 3 times and shown doc's (turkish licence ect) never been told I cannot drive the car. Have they changed the rules?
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As I stated in an earlier post, IF in the box (7.2) Diger Bilgiler on your vehicle docs (Ruhsat), it is written or laterly printed "araci sahibi ve aile fertlerinden baskasi tarafindan kullanilamazon" anyone with the family name can drive the vehicle (must have license of course). If it states "Araci Sahibinden Baskasi Kullanamaz" only the owner/s can drive the vehicle.
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Originally posted by Diverbaz 1
"araci sahibi ve aile fertlerinden baskasi tarafindan kullanilamazon" anyone with the family name can drive the vehicle
Doesnt say same family name but members of that family, otherwise if someones surname is Smith then but that term you are saying anyone with the surname Smith can drive it.
Basically apart from the owner, only members of immediate family can drive, no cousins are in-laws etc.
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So can my sons, who have a different surname to mine, drive the car?
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Yes but not their children or spouses. Not that I am assuming your that old of course :-)
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Also remember that a lot of policemen would not know the exact rules as they are transferred often between provinces. I have once before met a policeman who wasnt sure so I told him to call the Turing association of Turkey to get their word as they are the authority on this.
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Just checked our documents and the box Diger Bilgiler is blank so any ideas what that means?
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That means other information. For blue plate cars that would have 'Arac baska birine satilmaz' which means the vehicle is not allowed to be sold to anyone.
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We have been told by our Turkish teacher and a Translator working at notary 3, that "arac sahibinden ve aile fertlerinden baskasi kullanamaz"
stamped on Registration document means the owner and family members with the same family name, are allowed to drive the car.
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I don't work here, or hold Turkish Nationality, but I'm allowed to drive my husbands car, on normal plates as he is TC. This was true before we were married too.
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Two more issues resolved in the seemingly never ending list of official things to do.
Speed limits confirmed and both my and my wife's name on the Ruhsat.
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On my scooter license it says in the Diger Bilgiler box:
araç sahibinden baskasi kullanamaz
I take it this is the opposite of what everyone wants as it translates as:
vehicle owner can not use someone else
So this probably means only the vehicle owner can drive etc
Which actually suits me as I wouldn't like to be on the back of any sooter including my own :)
Ian