Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Flights, Airlines and Airports => Flights to Dalaman and Turkey, Airlines and Airports => Topic started by: JohnF on February 09, 2016, 10:10:17 AM
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The TUI group (owners of Thomsons) are the first of the major operators to lay out exactly what this lack of confidence in travelling to Turkey has done to bookings. They've reported that bookings are 40% down on last year with the focus shifting to Spain, Greece and the Canary Islands.
More at TD (http://www.todayszaman.com/latest-news_tui-group-says-summer-bookings-for-turkey-slump-40-pct_411809.html) & BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35530116)
I suspect that 2016 will be one of the most challenging seasons for a long time for many small businesses along the coast. Lets hope they dont take the short term approach by trying to make up for the lack of customers by simply jacking up prices - that'll just hit those that have shown loyalty to Turkey by holidaying there.
JF
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No great surprise really. I just wonder if it will also lead to flight consolidation and cancellation, particularly in the 'shoulder' months like April, May, June and September, October?? If they do then there are reduced chances of recovering the situation later in the season, through late booking to fill plane seats.
As to whether there will be any compensatory jacking of prices. Sadly experience has taught me that there will be a clobbering of those who do come, the only difference may be that this year the price clobbering might start earlier :(
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Fairly sure there have been a few cancellations and consolidations already, couple of threads last month about flight times and dates being shifted. They won't be the last unfortunately as the charter operators don't give toss about paying customers and juggle things around to maximise profits from those already committed.
JF
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We are in a hotel in Titreyengol, near Side, and its full at the moment,and its wintertime, but its lovely and sunny today.
Folks are out on their sunbeds by the pool, so the problems dont seem to have deterred them,
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I did mention Thomson price increases in Scunners "Hesitant an Turkey" thread.
From watching prices for some friends it appears that Thomson prices have been steadily increasing since the beginning of January and it's no small price increase either.
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I think Turkey is going to struggle with tourists this year. We let our apartment out and every year for the past 3/4 years it has always been booked out by the end of Jan. This year we have one booking - they booked last year. The number of hits on our "holiday letting page" was over 400 in January 2015, it was just under a 100 January 2015. Which makes me think that tourists are going to avoid Turkey this year.
Thomas Cooke stated in the Times a couple of days ago that there booking to Spain this year are up by about 28%, they also said big increases to Greece & Portugal - no mention of Turkey!
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I looked on the Thomson site yesterday and put in the first flight out of Manchester end of March returning a week later £ 293 and stating that this was including a £ 30 online saving !!!! without baggage
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End of March does coincide with the start of the school holidays though, try a week or 2 later and its much cheaper, there are some absolute bargains to be had for May.
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Has anyone looked at Thomson's fares for flight only for next year? They have at least doubled from last year, it really is no wonder that their bookings are down.
Thomson's appear to have changed their business model and are now whining that it does not suit them!! That therefore is their problem.
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Absolutely agree Madmart (assuming you mean this year not next). Thomson flights are priced shockingly high up here too compared with last year. Even by Scotland standards. For what they want for October flights to Dalaman I'd be expecting a package holiday not flight only.
The prices for flights elsewhere are pretty much as bad too. 40% down this year? No surprise at all.
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Just done a search for flights for August/September looked at Thomson flights from Gatwick the cheapest for 2 £995 !!!
and only one day a week flying in and out
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Pegasus airlines have an offer on at the moment up flying until June from Manchester. They seem to fly Monday only.
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Turkey will get an awful shock if the money from tourism dries up
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Pegasus airlines have an offer on at the moment up flying until June from Manchester. They seem to fly Monday only.
Bernie, you planning a visit this year? We're over early June. ;D
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I looked at Teletext package holidays and I received an email from Icelolly, couldn't believe the difference in prices for a package against just booking a flight, my advice would be to look at a package before searching for flight only,
I hate to say it and hope I'm wrong but can't see Turkey recovering from this
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Thomson:
October 13th - 20th
Package deal:
HOTEL DEVAMLI Rating: 3* in Icmeler (Tripadvisor 4/5)
Flight from Glasgow
£394
Same flight same date (Flight only, return)
£418
Loody cruss. Hotel looks nice too :o
(http://newmedia.thomson.co.uk/live/vol/3/f277549768a797caae6cb2633d6b8a9affe75b6f/658x370/web/EUROPEMEDITERRANEANTURKEYCON_TURTURKEY-DALAMANICMELERDEVAMLI.jpg)
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Thomson:
October 13th - 20th
Package deal:
HOTEL DEVAMLI Rating: 3* in Icmeler (Tripadvisor 4/5)
Flight from Glasgow
£394
You've well buggered that one up by posting here, the Thomsons mole reported straight back and they've bumped it up to £509pp!
JF
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Was coming over June Bluwise, but now I, m looking at September. Will you be over then? ;D
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Thompson have today a £60 per person off on turkey & Greece package holidays CODE SIXTY some very good deals for the 3 Calis Beach hotels on the web page LOADS cheaper than flight only , But my goodness the AI hotels are sky high prices.
Ron
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Still £394 here John, and with blueclad's £60 off per person (that can'y be used for flight only) that makes it £334, or £418 flight only :o
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I don't doubt it. Cleared cookies and still same price, but hey ho its not as if we'd be taking them up on it. Flight only price the same.
(http://twistedlime.co.uk/thom.jpg)
JF
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I'll be keeping my cookies just in case ;)
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I booked our holiday in November last year for October. Total cost at booking £601 for two weeks. Total cost now for the same holiday (including the £60 off): £790.
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great deals from Newcastle from around £215 with a hold bag as well, cheaper than Gatwick , problem is its with TOM CROOK bet they change or cancel those flights then bump up the price
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Thomas Crook are apparently using Avion Express from Newcastle ?
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If the immigration "crisis" across the entire country is one of the things hurting Turkey in terms of people not booking holidays, it seems it is not the worst suffering holiday destination due to this.
I find a search of the late deals/early season cheapies gives a good reflection of where is suffering - and if that is true, the first EU destination for many migrants, Kos, is on it's knees.
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Thomson:
October 13th - 20th
Package deal:
HOTEL DEVAMLI Rating: 3* in Icmeler (Tripadvisor 4/5)
Flight from Glasgow
£394
Same flight same date (Flight only, return)
£418
Loody cruss. Hotel looks nice too :o
(http://newmedia.thomson.co.uk/live/vol/3/f277549768a797caae6cb2633d6b8a9affe75b6f/658x370/web/EUROPEMEDITERRANEANTURKEYCON_TURTURKEY-DALAMANICMELERDEVAMLI.jpg)
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Well worth repeating