Calis Beach and Fethiye Turkey Discussion Forum
Calis Beach Forum => Calis Beach Questions and Information => Topic started by: Scunner on March 31, 2018, 22:40:21 PM
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I see the date for the 3C Charity's Spring Fair was confirmed on Facebook exactly a week ago. Nobody even bothered to come here and confirm the event or it's date.
I deeply regret that CBF didn't support the Calis Children's Charity over the years, as much as Facebook did.
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To be fair they are hugely depleted in numbers and Cathy who usually posts on here is trying to balance managing the shop as well as helping to look after an old lady who is terminally ill..and looking after numerous animals at the moment. The others are not members on here.... I will try and contact her.
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So when is it please? It shows how depleted their numbers are as even we are unaware of the date. As Mercury said hopefully Cathy will make an official announcement on here.
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I saw it buried inside a thread as a reply to someone - it wasn't even announced as a new topic/thread. Picked up by Fethiye Times yesterday - 3rd June.
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Fighting a losing battle mate. It appears that the current committee feel as though they have all their bases covered when it comes to publicity for events.
Short memories is all I can say...
JF
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I started losing the battle a few years ago.
In truth the short memories is fine, if they don't need CBF anymore so what - but bearing in mind they didn't even announce it on their own FB page, my greater annoyance is that they have taken on a once magnificent organisation which literally changed lives, and are rather quickly f*cking it all up.
Makes no difference to me, will be making a hell of a difference (and not a good one) to the lives of the poorest children locally.
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Things have changed considerably in Calis and Fethiye.. There are more people leaving than going to reside there now and I feel that the times of The Charities is somewhat over.. There will always be the few that struggle on but for the most part now it's the animal lovers that have taken over.
FIG started out originally but then Pete and Chrissie came along with their Carnival idea.. It was never meant to be about helping children but there was money left over and it went on to be a huge success..Car boots sprang up..The first in Turkey.. The Xmas Fair. Spring Fair.. Coffee mornings.. Music events etc.etc. It was all huge fun while at the time raising huge amounts of money.. When it became The 3cs it was still about helping the children but became more about the money raising.. When the fun went out if it people started leaving.. Then the main stay committee members started leaving Turkey for pastures new.. The ones that were left became overwhelmed by the pressure on them to carry on what was started.. After Pete and Chrissie left it was more or less the nail in the coffin (my opinion only).. Liz and a few others manfully tried to carry on with "newbies" who of course brought their own ideas (mostly wrong ones).. The result is that there are now only 6 running to stay still.
They still really care about helping local poor kids but something has to give.. I don't think for a minute that they are not grateful to CBF.. just overwhelmed by trying to keep the charity going with no new blood.. As are FIG.Embrace and the rest.. The Animal charities seem to have amalgamated as they also suffer from a lack of volunteers..
To be truthful I think that the days of charities in the local area are numbered.. Times and people change and move on.
Please do not see this as a slight on CBF..and these are my thoughts only..
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I would like to add that anyone who is on the committee now apart from Cathy are probably new to Calis and would have no idea how much CBF have donated to and helped The 3CS..
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Are they inexperienced in realising that not advertising events at all (even on Facebook) generally results in nobody turning up? And in realising that if people don't turn up you don't raise as much money to help local causes?
The lunatics have taken over.
What exactly do they do?
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Absolutely no idea.. I only know that The original members (many before I knew that Calis even existed). Can be proud of theirs and this forums achievements. Maybe they will do the same as The Turkish and announce it the day before ???
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Seems like Didums has a petted lip. Oh dearie me. The world changes every day, not for the better. It would be a shame for people to fall out over this as I know that everyone past and present only want good things for any charities in the area.
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Seems like Didums has a petted lip.
If you've nothing constructive to add to this topic then I'd suggest BBC1 or Radio 4, or maybe Facebook.
In this context, ad hominen attacks on a member actually show you up to be the child. Maybe it's past your bedtime...
JF
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First thing to say is that Pete and Chrissie and their team, including mercury, are a very, very hard act to follow and the depletion of numbers will obviously be a factor. For example when the charity’s flag was unveiled there were 15 people in the photograph. Mercury now advises that there are now only 6.
But Pete and Chrissie would be the first to admit that they made mistakes along the way. But they learned from those mistakes and that is why (along with the great support of their team) the charity developed into such a success.
I assume that the organisation of events such as the Spring Fair evolved over the years and that there was a “blueprint” for its’ organisation.
I also assume that an integral and essential part of that blueprint would be a list of where the event should be advertised including on CBF.
As scunner said, if the event is not advertised properly, people will not turn up and the event will not be a success. If this is indeed the case then I do wonder why it was not followed for this year’s event.
Constructive criticism can only be of a benefit.
That having been said, the 3C’s committee are all volunteers who still really care about helping local underprivileged children. Just a thought but would the Spring Fair happen if it was not for them.
PS I do have to say that it was personally disappointing being asked earlier this month on the Committee Members Message Board “who are you – because I haven’t seen you in 12 months”
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Typical ignorant response from someone who can’t grasp the obvious, ray1951, such as the bit where I said I don’t care if they use CBF, and the bit where I said my concern is only for the loss of monies raised for important causes locally, caused by the incompetence of the incumbent committee members.
But don’t let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to make a bitchy comment Ray1951, we welcome the input of fools here and it’s great to know we can rely on you.
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Good evening everyone, firstly may I apologise for the late reply to your comments. I also apologise for the lack of input to CBF and ıt's members who have supported and stood by the 3C's for so many years. CBF has not deliberately been missed out in terms of adding the Spring Fair date. In fact it was only finally confirmed a little over a week ago and I think my colleagues were responding to specific requests for information. I should have picked it up myself and posted on here, and as soon as we have a poster I will do so.
As we are a much depleted Committee these days, sadly sometimes we are not as efficient as we might like to be. We are however still working very hard to raise funds to support the local children and schools in the Fethiye area.
We recently had to move our shop and depot at very short notice, and this occupied the time of many of our members.
Your help and support both in the past, and which still continues is hugely appreciated, and whilst I cannot make excuses for our lack of communication, I hope that I have gone some way to explain.
Thank you Keith and all the members and particularly Highlander for all that you do to help us to help the children.
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Thank you Cathy.. I know what works is involved in running the charity.. I have no idea how you are still managing.. If you could let us know where the new shop is that would also be helpful I am sure.. Anne.xx
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PS I do have to say that it was personally disappointing being asked earlier this month on the Committee Members Message Board “who are you – because I haven’t seen you in 12 months”
Being the gentleman we know you to be, I doubt you responded with something like "I'm the guy who works tirelessly on CBF, raising more money than you do".
It is a disgrace for a 3C committee member to show you such condescending disrespect.
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I love rattling the cage at times. This forum provide lots of interesting tip and masses of information which is greatly appreciated. Surely freedom of speech is something we should all embrace. Occasionally certain people demonstrate a one sided view and the posse have to agree and go with the flow OR be slated and ridiculed. Your way or your say or NO WAY.
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<sigh>
The old "agree or be slated" whinge.
Ok Ray, as I clearly stated - I think it doesn't matter if they post here, what matters is that people are made aware of events so they are successful.
You disagree, which is your right. Which bit do you disagree with?
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The local charities with, the exceptions of the animal charities and Üzümlü Group and to a certain extent Embrace, might find that if they took the time to share information and post photos of how the money raised is spent there might be more interest from local people in getting involved.
When I visit the groups I'm a member of there's streams of posts for fundraising events but barely if any mention of how those funds are being used.
Feedback isn't just important for people that donate it's crucial if you want people to be motivated to get more involved. It'd also help raise more actual donations via PayPal etc which might in turn reduce the amount of fundraisers that need organising making participation less onerous and time better spent helping the children and others that benefit.
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So true Nichola - I'm sure if I asked which charitable event people most remember on CBF (for the very reasons you mentioned) most will say the same one.....
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That's because CBF did the publicity ;)
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That's because CBF did the publicity ;)
Do you think this could of been down to the numbers of admins/members to share the work load at the time, where as there appears to be a dire shortage in that area now.
Such a shame one person couldn't undertake the admin role to share amongst all social networks regardless, charities should unite people together not divide.
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Copy, paste paste paste
If one person can let Fethiye Times know they are 10 seconds from letting the many Calis, Fethiye etc groups on Facebook know as well as us.
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Would you like me to ask Lyn to share her Fethiye Times posts on this forum :)
Not sure I understood your above post Keith but if I did I can certainly suggest it to her...
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Totally agree keith, just dont feel the resources are there to keep on top of all the admin (not a criticism wish I lived there to help). I can appreciate the frustration when CBF members have and still do support charities in and around Fethiye and beyond. With more social media sites out there must be hard to keep track of whos communicating with who.
Don't let it dishearten the good work CBF memembers continue to do.
karen